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Topic: Is progressed synastry similar to synastry?
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dribaby
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posted July 08, 2019 04:43 PM
  
Trying to learn more about progressed synastry. Please give me some insight!  IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted July 09, 2019 06:56 PM
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Nine
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posted July 09, 2019 07:43 PM
pSynastry gives you the timing.A union between two people is formed by the conjunction of Sun/Asc and moon. Progressions tells you where you are in the cycle. A relationship can only start at the New Moon or Sun/Moon conjunction. IP: Logged |
dribaby
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posted July 09, 2019 11:16 PM
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Originally posted by Nine:
pSynastry gives you the timing.A union between two people is formed by the conjunction of Sun/Asc and moon. Progressions tells you where you are in the cycle. A relationship can only start at the New Moon or Sun/Moon conjunction.
So if someone's pVenus squares their partner pPluto, does that cause issues with forming a relationship?
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athenegoddess
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posted July 10, 2019 02:35 AM
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Originally posted by dribaby:
So if someone's pVenus squares their partner pPluto, does that cause issues with forming a relationship?
That sounds like a fated attraction but it wont end well. IP: Logged |
dribaby
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posted July 10, 2019 06:50 AM
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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
That sounds like a fated attraction but it wont end well.
Yes definitely fated. The attraction been going on for 3 years now IP: Logged |
Hikaru29
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posted July 10, 2019 09:37 AM
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Originally posted by Nine:
Progressions tells you where you are in the cycle. A relationship can only start at the New Moon or Sun/Moon conjunction.
We started a relationship when my pMoon was in waxing phase. Our relationship recently took a dip. Now his pMoon is reaching full moon phase and after that it will conjunct my natal Sun. Will that be an opportunity for us to revive the relationship? IP: Logged |
Annerice
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posted July 11, 2019 10:11 AM
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Originally posted by Nine:
pSynastry gives you the timing.A union between two people is formed by the conjunction of Sun/Asc and moon. Progressions tells you where you are in the cycle. A relationship can only start at the New Moon or Sun/Moon conjunction.
May I ask if this refers also to conversed progressions? I once read somewhere on the net that conversed progressed moon conjunct sun or desc. in synastry is one of the marriage markers.
Any real experience with that?? anyone?
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Nine
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posted July 12, 2019 07:03 AM
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So if someone's pVenus squares their partner pPluto, does that cause issues with forming a relationship?
The union/relationship is formed at the Sun/Asc/Moon level. Venus-Pluto will add dimension/character to the relationship. On its own it doesn't have the power to bring two people together. IP: Logged |
Nine
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posted July 12, 2019 07:08 AM
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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
We started a relationship when my pMoon was in waxing phase. Our relationship recently took a dip. Now his pMoon is reaching full moon phase and after that it will conjunct my natal Sun. Will that be an opportunity for us to revive the relationship?
Yes, though I can't say with certainty things will return to the romantic. However, once his pMoon conjuncts your nSun that will definitely bring you closer. Perhaps that is where free will comes in. If you've managed to work on the issues that caused the separation, another go round might seem very appealing to him. IP: Logged |
Nine
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posted July 12, 2019 07:10 AM
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Originally posted by Annerice:
May I ask if this refers also to conversed progressions? I once read somewhere on the net that conversed progressed moon conjunct sun or desc. in synastry is one of the marriage markers.
Any real experience with that?? anyone?
No, this only works for direct motion secondary progressions. I've heard of converse but haven't seen convincing evidence that it works. IP: Logged |
Annerice
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posted July 13, 2019 01:04 AM
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Originally posted by Nine:
No, this only works for direct motion secondary progressions. I've heard of converse but haven't seen convincing evidence that it works.
Well, i just checked conversed progressed chart of my best friend who is getting married this autumn. Her conversed moon is exactly conjunct his natal sun around that time. His MC in conversed progressed chart is conjunct her natal sun (3 degree orb). There are other things, as well. While in direct progressions her progressed asc. is conjunct his natal asc. I am curious because i see similar aspects (my conversed progessed moon conjunct somebody's natal sun, while his converse moon conjunct my natal desc.) in my chart, too with some guy. So i think, as many astrologers claim, converse progressions also give amazing results.
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Nine
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posted July 13, 2019 08:06 AM
Okay, but what exactly should we look for with converse progressions and relationships.As the New Moon (Sun conjunct Moon) is the aspect of union, this is the aspect that shows up time and again in pSynastry. That matchup has been very consistent. cpSynastry hasn't proved itself. IP: Logged |
Annerice
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posted July 13, 2019 09:25 AM
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Originally posted by Nine:
Okay, but what exactly should we look for with converse progressions and relationships.As the New Moon (Sun conjunct Moon) is the aspect of union, this is the aspect that shows up time and again in pSynastry. That matchup has been very consistent. cpSynastry hasn't proved itself.
What i mean is that cp synastry id just as valid as direct one. The case above proves this.
I checked another couple's cp charts. The sun of the male natal chart is conjuct the mars of the woman in cp chart at the time of their marriage.
I also think that many simply ignore this method, which is surprisingly revealing to me personally and even more telling.
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Nine
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posted July 13, 2019 12:22 PM
The Divine union is Sun conjunct Moon. This is what we witness at the New Moon. By correspondence, this is also the aspect that brings strangers together. In all new relationships this aspect will be present in the pSynastry.cpSynastry has yet to provide that kind of consistency. IP: Logged |
dribaby
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posted July 14, 2019 04:28 AM
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Originally posted by Nine:
The Divine union is Sun conjunct Moon. This is what we witness at the New Moon. By correspondence, this is also the aspect that brings strangers together. In all new relationships this aspect will be present in the pSynastry.cpSynastry has yet to provide that kind of consistency.
Me and my partner didn't have Sun/Moon in Psynastry but we do have sun trine moon in synastry. IP: Logged |
Hikaru29
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posted July 14, 2019 04:45 AM
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Originally posted by Nine:
Yes, though I can't say with certainty things will return to the romantic. However, once his pMoon conjuncts your nSun that will definitely bring you closer.Perhaps that is where free will comes in. If you've managed to work on the issues that caused the separation, another go round might seem very appealing to him.
What's the orb of influence? My natal Sun is at 8° Taurus and his pMoon is at about 2° Taurus now. We had a reconciliation a few days ago. Things went back to romantic although I'm not sure if this will lead to a full patch-back. Do I have to wait for aspect to be exact to see some real "action", if any? IP: Logged |
Hikaru29
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posted July 14, 2019 05:09 AM
Are we looking at both progressed-progressed and natal-progressed and not just conjunction?When we first got together, my pMoon trine his pSun and his pMoon sextile my pSun. My pSun also widely trine his nMoon. IP: Logged |
Annerice
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posted July 18, 2019 06:52 AM
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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
Are we looking at both progressed-progressed and natal-progressed and not just conjunction?When we first got together, my pMoon trine his pSun and his pMoon sextile my pSun. My pSun also widely trine his nMoon.
i am looking to everything, but mostly progressed to natal, i think it is stronger, maybe. But both are valid, for sure. IP: Logged |
Annerice
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posted July 22, 2019 08:02 AM
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Originally posted by dribaby:
Me and my partner didn't have Sun/Moon in Psynastry but we do have sun trine moon in synastry.
me and my partner had in direct progressions: our moons opposite each other (about 2 degree orb).
we also had some aspects in converse progressed chart, for example, my ocnverse mars exactly conjunct his natal sun (there were other aspects, i don't remember now). IP: Logged |
mir
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posted July 22, 2019 11:48 AM
Nine, what is your current take on Venus progressions (next to Sun/Moon/ASC) during the START-of .. ?IP: Logged |
Nine
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posted July 23, 2019 09:01 PM
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Originally posted by mir:
Nine, what is your current take on Venus progressions (next to Sun/Moon/ASC) during the START-of .. ?
Very important. It used to be that Sun-Venus was the first thing I looked for in pSynastry. Then I stumbled upon a synastry that didn't fit this pattern. That led nme to a new discovery, pMoon conjunct nAsc/nSun. My current feeling is that attraction (in all relationships) starts and ends with the conjunction aspect. Specifically, pMoon conjunct nAsc/nSun. After that is satisfied, then the other aspects come into play.
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tgem
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posted July 26, 2019 08:12 AM
Hi Nine,
What’s been your experience with the orbs in progressed synastry? How tight? IP: Logged |
mir
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posted August 05, 2019 10:41 AM
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Originally posted by Nine:
Very important.It used to be that Sun-Venus was the first thing I looked for in pSynastry. Then I stumbled upon a synastry that didn't fit this pattern. That led nme to a new discovery, pMoon conjunct nAsc/nSun. My current feeling is that attraction (in all relationships) starts and ends with the conjunction aspect. Specifically, pMoon conjunct nAsc/nSun. After that is satisfied, then the other aspects come into play.
Thanks! Yes that was indeed a mindblowing discovery that pMoon to nAsc/nSun. Seeing this time after time ...
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starstruck1
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posted August 06, 2019 03:00 AM
Ive just had a look at a friends progressed synastry.at time of union her p. sun was conjunct his p. ASC within 1 deg right now they have Her p. moon conjunct his p. Desc within 1 deg and her P sun is still conj by 2 deg to his P Asc. She is just about to her a full moon in her p chart... This is why I love astrology. ))) IP: Logged |
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