posted July 10, 2019 02:11 PM            

Compatible Moons is another one to look out for if you want long-lasting harmony. Vedic has a different measurement.

Venus compatibility helps tremendously in harmonising your love styles and values.

Venus/Mars (and personally for me Mars/Mars) compatibility contributes to sexual chemistry which is extremely important if you wanna maintain a long-lasting spark.

Saturn is good for stability... soft aspects da best.

posted July 10, 2019 10:21 PM            

But in synastry, ideally you need attraction AND compatibility. Lots of people only get or settle for 1, since finding both is harder and more rare, but for a true deep long lasting together until you die type of thing, you need both. We can madly in love and attracted to someone we’re horribly incompatible with, or be best friends and have the best compatibility with someone we’re not that passionate about or attracted to.
You look for different things to see compatibility and to see attraction.

For compatibility; you want as many conjunctions, trines and sextiles between the personal between between two people (sun,moon,Venus,mercury,mars) or these planets conjunct angles. This shows compatibility, harmony, similarity, two people able to get along without too much friction or needing to change and compromise.

For attraction; you need to put your planets in the others 5th, 7th and 8th house, make aspects to these houses rulers, or symbolism matching. Example; they have Jupiter in their 7th and you have sun in sag. They have Gemini 5th house, you have a third house stellium. They have Leo DSC, you have sun conjunct your asc. The 7th is MOST important when it comes to matching and activating though. You want the 5th too, for the most passionate, head over heels attraction, but 7th is the strongest. Without the 7th, it won’t be serious, just a fling, you don’t get that commitment because 7th is our ideal partner, we only marry someone we feel intensely about, that this is our 1 person we’re going to stay with above the rest, and to make someone feel that you have to match their 7th. That’s the qualities and energy we’re looking for in a partner, the type of person we’re most drawn and attracted to.

Pattern completion is also important, say you have a t-square, if someone puts a planet to make it into a grand cross, that’s appealing to both parties depending on the planets involved and if that planet is a ruler of a love house. Or you have a trine and the other makes it a grand trine etc. It adds a synergy and chemistry between two people. Making them feel more whole and complete, like a missing puzzle piece. It adds glue. You feel more dynamic together.

There are a lot of good/helpful aspects;
Mercury conjunct moon, mercury conjunct Jupiter, mercury conjunct Venus, mercury trine mercury; these aspects help greatly in terms of communication, understanding, mental compatibility and good flowing communication without too much strained convos, or having to feign interest in what the other is saying or what they like to talk about, not as many misunderstanding. Good mercury aspects are important, not crucial, but aid a relationship greatly. You have to look at the ruler of each partners 3rd house as well, good aspects to the rulers will can help make up for bad mercury aspects.
Venus conjunct sun/moon/Jupiter is also great. No negatives to these. Especially if it’s the mans Venus.
Jupiter conjunct any of the inner planets, again no real negatives very positive influence.

Some of the worst aspects though are any squares/oppositions to the others inner planets from someone’s Saturn or Pluto. The Saturn person will be critical/disapproving of the planet person, telling them what or how they should behave mars), say (mercury), feel (moon), identity/expression (sun). The planet person will feel restricted, awkward , blocked, rejected etc. It never manifests positively.
Pluto will manifest as controlling, manipulative energy between the two people. Obsessive but in a toxic, co-dependent way. Can even be abusive if it’s mars square Pluto (physical abuse) or mercury square Pluto (mental/verbal abuse) etc. Sure it adds passion and intensity, but people need to realize love and obsession/intensity of feelings are two VERY different things. Most people don’t realize this until after many failed plutonic type relationships they mistook for love just because of intensity of feelings, that were never based on real love but on obsession. Pluto is a selfish energy. It’s that “I love you FOREVER, MINE, ill seal our love in blood!! I’ll die for you! But if you ever leave me or cheat on me, I’ll kill you!!! “ Lol it’s selfishly motivated (as long as you do this and don’t do that, keep making me feel this way etc. stemming from feelings of possession and control and fear based. Love isn’t selfish. That’s why venus is in detriment in Scorpio (Pluto) and exalted in pisces (Neptune/selfless) lol.
Remember, we love people for who THEY are, not because of how they make US feel.
Unaspected planets (when someone planet makes no major aspects to the others planets especially inner). That planet will feel alienated, misunderstood, that energy will be missing in the connection between the two people.

Hard mars, Neptune, Uranus, Jupiter aspects can go either way.
Mars square sun, moon or mercury is bad but square venus, Uranus, Jupiter is positive.
Jupiter squares/oppositions are never anything to worry about, but they can show differing belief systems or ideals/religion etc. and can encourage indulgent or enabling behaviour, being too tolerant.
Neptune can add a lot of idealism, romance, forgiveness and spiritual selfless love, but can also show illusions, deception and disappointment.
Uranus is exciting and energizing, but can be very erratic, hot and cold, unstable.

Inconjunctions are also negative aspects if not involved in a Yod

Basically, you want soft (trine/sextile) aspects from the outer planets to the inner planets.
Lots of planets to angles
Conjunct Angle Axis
Node to angles/planets
Moons in compatible elements (fire/air, earth/water or sand element).

posted July 10, 2019 10:55 PM            

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posted July 10, 2019 10:56 PM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
Aspects from Jupiter to inner planets are all good as it brings positive feelings. Even the squares/oppositions are ok.

Compatible Moons is another one to look out for if you want long-lasting harmony. Vedic has a different measurement.

Venus compatibility helps tremendously in harmonising your love styles and values.

Venus/Mars (and personally for me Mars/Mars) compatibility contributes to sexual chemistry which is extremely important if you wanna maintain a long-lasting spark.

Saturn is good for stability... soft aspects da best.

And I always need Pluto for intensity.

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posted July 10, 2019 10:58 PM            

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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
For me I like to look at the composite chart for the final fate of the relationship. The Sun and Moon should have a good aspect to show compatibility. Then I look at the aspects both the Sun and Moon make to other planets to show the ultimate answer. Squares show bad compatibility and problems.

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thanks for your reply!

posted July 10, 2019 11:03 PM            

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Originally posted by LunaIscariot:
It’s not just synastry, it’s composite too. That usually tells you more about the relationship itself and if it can be healthy and long-term/sustainable.

But in synastry, ideally you need attraction AND compatibility. Lots of people only get or settle for 1, since finding both is harder and more rare, but for a true deep long lasting together until you die type of thing, you need both. We can madly in love and attracted to someone we’re horribly incompatible with, or be best friends and have the best compatibility with someone we’re not that passionate about or attracted to.
You look for different things to see compatibility and to see attraction.

For compatibility; you want as many conjunctions, trines and sextiles between the personal between between two people (sun,moon,Venus,mercury,mars) or these planets conjunct angles. This shows compatibility, harmony, similarity, two people able to get along without too much friction or needing to change and compromise.

For attraction; you need to put your planets in the others 5th, 7th and 8th house, make aspects to these houses rulers, or symbolism matching. Example; they have Jupiter in their 7th and you have sun in sag. They have Gemini 5th house, you have a third house stellium. They have Leo DSC, you have sun conjunct your asc. The 7th is MOST important when it comes to matching and activating though. You want the 5th too, for the most passionate, head over heels attraction, but 7th is the strongest. Without the 7th, it won’t be serious, just a fling, you don’t get that commitment because 7th is our ideal partner, we only marry someone we feel intensely about, that this is our 1 person we’re going to stay with above the rest, and to make someone feel that you have to match their 7th. That’s the qualities and energy we’re looking for in a partner, the type of person we’re most drawn and attracted to.

Pattern completion is also important, say you have a t-square, if someone puts a planet to make it into a grand cross, that’s appealing to both parties depending on the planets involved and if that planet is a ruler of a love house. Or you have a trine and the other makes it a grand trine etc. It adds a synergy and chemistry between two people. Making them feel more whole and complete, like a missing puzzle piece. It adds glue. You feel more dynamic together.

There are a lot of good/helpful aspects;
Mercury conjunct moon, mercury conjunct Jupiter, mercury conjunct Venus, mercury trine mercury; these aspects help greatly in terms of communication, understanding, mental compatibility and good flowing communication without too much strained convos, or having to feign interest in what the other is saying or what they like to talk about, not as many misunderstanding. Good mercury aspects are important, not crucial, but aid a relationship greatly. You have to look at the ruler of each partners 3rd house as well, good aspects to the rulers will can help make up for bad mercury aspects.
Venus conjunct sun/moon/Jupiter is also great. No negatives to these. Especially if it’s the mans Venus.
Jupiter conjunct any of the inner planets, again no real negatives very positive influence.

Some of the worst aspects though are any squares/oppositions to the others inner planets from someone’s Saturn or Pluto. The Saturn person will be critical/disapproving of the planet person, telling them what or how they should behave mars), say (mercury), feel (moon), identity/expression (sun). The planet person will feel restricted, awkward , blocked, rejected etc. It never manifests positively.
Pluto will manifest as controlling, manipulative energy between the two people. Obsessive but in a toxic, co-dependent way. Can even be abusive if it’s mars square Pluto (physical abuse) or mercury square Pluto (mental/verbal abuse) etc. Sure it adds passion and intensity, but people need to realize love and obsession/intensity of feelings are two VERY different things. Most people don’t realize this until after many failed plutonic type relationships they mistook for love just because of intensity of feelings, that were never based on real love but on obsession. Pluto is a selfish energy. It’s that “I love you FOREVER, MINE, ill seal our love in blood!! I’ll die for you! But if you ever leave me or cheat on me, I’ll kill you!!! “ Lol it’s selfishly motivated (as long as you do this and don’t do that, keep making me feel this way etc. stemming from feelings of possession and control and fear based. Love isn’t selfish. That’s why venus is in detriment in Scorpio (Pluto) and exalted in pisces (Neptune/selfless) lol.
Remember, we love people for who THEY are, not because of how they make US feel.
Unaspected planets (when someone planet makes no major aspects to the others planets especially inner). That planet will feel alienated, misunderstood, that energy will be missing in the connection between the two people.

Hard mars, Neptune, Uranus, Jupiter aspects can go either way.
Mars square sun, moon or mercury is bad but square venus, Uranus, Jupiter is positive.
Jupiter squares/oppositions are never anything to worry about, but they can show differing belief systems or ideals/religion etc. and can encourage indulgent or enabling behaviour, being too tolerant.
Neptune can add a lot of idealism, romance, forgiveness and spiritual selfless love, but can also show illusions, deception and disappointment.
Uranus is exciting and energizing, but can be very erratic, hot and cold, unstable.

Inconjunctions are also negative aspects if not involved in a Yod

Basically, you want soft (trine/sextile) aspects from the outer planets to the inner planets.
Lots of planets to angles
Conjunct Angle Axis
Node to angles/planets
Moons in compatible elements (fire/air, earth/water or sand element).

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posted July 11, 2019 05:48 PM            

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Originally posted by LunaIscariot:
I also have Scorpio DSC with Pluto there myself. That’s why I can speak about how Pluto energy works in love and relationships since I’m familiar with the energy and have a lot of experience.
Pluto is a tricky planet because it can go one of 2 ways. It can be really good or really bad, more often than the other planets. In a less evolved, less mature person, you’ll seek intensity and passion above all and think that’s what your DSC wants. That’s that’s what you’re looking for. But that’s the Lower energy of Pluto.
Pluto is all about elimination (letting go of what doesn’t serve you), positive Pluto energy loves change, embraces it, doesn’t become stuck or stagnant, is always wanting to level up. So it doesn’t fear change or letting go, losing something or someone, so it doesn’t need to control or manipulate.
If you have venus, DSC in Scorpio or Pluto conjunct DSC, in your 7th or conjunct venus or your 7th ruler, You shouldn’t seek passion and intensity and obsessiveness, that’s not love, thats not serving you, that’s not promoting anything ultimately healthy in you, it’s usually going to bring out the worst parts of you and trigger anxiety and fear of loss. You should be seeking EQUAL power exchange in love/relationship, instead of giving your power away being codependent, feeing like you can’t live without this person, they’re your everything etc. you’re giving this other person power and control over you. But Venus and the 7th is all about balance. So you need a balanced power couple. Find a partner who EMPOWERS you, not one who makes you feel love sick and out of control, but stronger and more secure. Evolved Pluto energy is extremely deep, insightful, wise. Spiritual. Very tolerant, understanding, and accepting of all the bad or less nice parts and potential of the human condition. Because thats what Pluto rules, everything bad or evil or ugly within us. The things we try repress, bury, deny. Pluto also rules HEALING/PURGING.
Seek a partner and relationship that involves deep INTIMACY, not sex. They are different. Pluto wants to merge, wants to connect wholeheartedly, mind body and soul, but needs to feel safe in doing so. So you need to find someone who you trust 100 percent, that’s number 1 for people with Pluto love nature. That will eliminate the need for manipulation, control, jealousy, fear of loss etc. that happens when you have a plutonic love nature. Find someone who promotes deep healing and transformation thru your connection with them, someone wise, insightful, accepting, tolerant, who understands the depths of the human condition, who can promote profound changes/growth and insight/revelations within YOURSELF because of the deep intimacy and trust between you. If you ever find yourself obsessively thinking about someone, there’s how you know you’ve given your power away. People need to stop associating Pluto with sex, passion, intensity and all these self-indulgent temporary emotions you confuse with love which is the least rewarding or healthy potential because when there’s obsession there is anxiety and fear, and start seeing the real value; which is profound potential for growth, healing, trust, intimacy and bonding on a soul deep level that will have meaning and be rewarding even if the person is gone.

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posted July 11, 2019 07:10 PM            

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Originally posted by MilaBirkin:
thanks for your reply!

So, you don't care much if they have a nice synastry and a poor composite, you prefer a good composite rather than synastry? and what do you think about sun opposite moon in composite?

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posted July 11, 2019 08:53 PM            

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Does a healthy evolved pluto generally happen as we age? Say, after your first saturn return?

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posted July 12, 2019 12:44 AM            

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Originally posted by LunaIscariot:
It’s not just synastry, it’s composite too. That usually tells you more about the relationship itself and if it can be healthy and long-term/sustainable.

But in synastry, ideally you need attraction AND compatibility. Lots of people only get or settle for 1, since finding both is harder and more rare, but for a true deep long lasting together until you die type of thing, you need both. We can madly in love and attracted to someone we’re horribly incompatible with, or be best friends and have the best compatibility with someone we’re not that passionate about or attracted to.
You look for different things to see compatibility and to see attraction.

For compatibility; you want as many conjunctions, trines and sextiles between the personal between between two people (sun,moon,Venus,mercury,mars) or these planets conjunct angles. This shows compatibility, harmony, similarity, two people able to get along without too much friction or needing to change and compromise.

For attraction; you need to put your planets in the others 5th, 7th and 8th house, make aspects to these houses rulers, or symbolism matching. Example; they have Jupiter in their 7th and you have sun in sag. They have Gemini 5th house, you have a third house stellium. They have Leo DSC, you have sun conjunct your asc. The 7th is MOST important when it comes to matching and activating though. You want the 5th too, for the most passionate, head over heels attraction, but 7th is the strongest. Without the 7th, it won’t be serious, just a fling, you don’t get that commitment because 7th is our ideal partner, we only marry someone we feel intensely about, that this is our 1 person we’re going to stay with above the rest, and to make someone feel that you have to match their 7th. That’s the qualities and energy we’re looking for in a partner, the type of person we’re most drawn and attracted to.

Pattern completion is also important, say you have a t-square, if someone puts a planet to make it into a grand cross, that’s appealing to both parties depending on the planets involved and if that planet is a ruler of a love house. Or you have a trine and the other makes it a grand trine etc. It adds a synergy and chemistry between two people. Making them feel more whole and complete, like a missing puzzle piece. It adds glue. You feel more dynamic together.

There are a lot of good/helpful aspects;
Mercury conjunct moon, mercury conjunct Jupiter, mercury conjunct Venus, mercury trine mercury; these aspects help greatly in terms of communication, understanding, mental compatibility and good flowing communication without too much strained convos, or having to feign interest in what the other is saying or what they like to talk about, not as many misunderstanding. Good mercury aspects are important, not crucial, but aid a relationship greatly. You have to look at the ruler of each partners 3rd house as well, good aspects to the rulers will can help make up for bad mercury aspects.
Venus conjunct sun/moon/Jupiter is also great. No negatives to these. Especially if it’s the mans Venus.
Jupiter conjunct any of the inner planets, again no real negatives very positive influence.

Some of the worst aspects though are any squares/oppositions to the others inner planets from someone’s Saturn or Pluto. The Saturn person will be critical/disapproving of the planet person, telling them what or how they should behave mars), say (mercury), feel (moon), identity/expression (sun). The planet person will feel restricted, awkward , blocked, rejected etc. It never manifests positively.
Pluto will manifest as controlling, manipulative energy between the two people. Obsessive but in a toxic, co-dependent way. Can even be abusive if it’s mars square Pluto (physical abuse) or mercury square Pluto (mental/verbal abuse) etc. Sure it adds passion and intensity, but people need to realize love and obsession/intensity of feelings are two VERY different things. Most people don’t realize this until after many failed plutonic type relationships they mistook for love just because of intensity of feelings, that were never based on real love but on obsession. Pluto is a selfish energy. It’s that “I love you FOREVER, MINE, ill seal our love in blood!! I’ll die for you! But if you ever leave me or cheat on me, I’ll kill you!!! “ Lol it’s selfishly motivated (as long as you do this and don’t do that, keep making me feel this way etc. stemming from feelings of possession and control and fear based. Love isn’t selfish. That’s why venus is in detriment in Scorpio (Pluto) and exalted in pisces (Neptune/selfless) lol.
Remember, we love people for who THEY are, not because of how they make US feel.
Unaspected planets (when someone planet makes no major aspects to the others planets especially inner). That planet will feel alienated, misunderstood, that energy will be missing in the connection between the two people.

Hard mars, Neptune, Uranus, Jupiter aspects can go either way.
Mars square sun, moon or mercury is bad but square venus, Uranus, Jupiter is positive.
Jupiter squares/oppositions are never anything to worry about, but they can show differing belief systems or ideals/religion etc. and can encourage indulgent or enabling behaviour, being too tolerant.
Neptune can add a lot of idealism, romance, forgiveness and spiritual selfless love, but can also show illusions, deception and disappointment.
Uranus is exciting and energizing, but can be very erratic, hot and cold, unstable.

Inconjunctions are also negative aspects if not involved in a Yod

Basically, you want soft (trine/sextile) aspects from the outer planets to the inner planets.
Lots of planets to angles
Conjunct Angle Axis
Node to angles/planets
Moons in compatible elements (fire/air, earth/water or sand element).

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posted July 12, 2019 05:25 AM            

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Originally posted by LunaIscariot:
Seek a partner and relationship that involves deep INTIMACY, not sex. They are different. Pluto wants to merge, wants to connect wholeheartedly, mind body and soul, but needs to feel safe in doing so. So you need to find someone who you trust 100 percent

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It's true... having deep intimacy isn't just about sex although when 2 people feel deep intimacy, they naturally wanna merge through sex...it's a very natural thing. And sex isn't just about physical gratification, for me it's also the merging of hearts & souls.

posted July 12, 2019 07:02 AM            

But to answer your question, I’ll have to preface first; when you say a soul connection, that implies true love. Lots of people say they want truelove, but most actually don’t and don’t even know what it really is. Like I was saying, what most people associate with love, is that passion, excitement, attraction, intensity of feelings etc. but this is actually more “like” and desire than genuine love. Because this is what feels good to us, it’s exciting, it’s pleasurable, we like these feelings. But that’s the thing, you’re “in love” with the FEELING and not the actual person themselves. You think you are because you attached that good feeling to the person because they were the conduit or catalyst that made you feel it. This is why so many people cheat and leave their partners for someone else, once these feelings fade (because they do and will with time, it’s science lol), they think they “fell out of love” even though usually that person is still the same person. So what gives? Well it’s because it was never about the person themselves to begin with lol you just liked the high they gave you. This is all just attraction stuff, all those feelings. Not love. And most people prefer like over love, that’s what they’re really looking for.
Like I said before, you love someone for who THEY are, not for how they make YOU feel.
Now real, abiding, true love is selfless. That saying, “when you like a flower you pick it, but when you love one, you water it” is a really good example of what real love is. Love is trust, support, care, affection, wanting what’s best for that person even if it means not being with them or them with someone else. It’s calm and content, secure, feelings of peace and well-being. Harmony. Balance. Think Taurus (calm, stable, secure, good self esteem, feeling valued and appreciated and appreciating and valuing another), libra (harmony, balance, respect, fairness, polite/gracious) and Pisces (connected, selfless, sacrificial, kind, forgiving, tolerant). These are all the natural signs and rulers of venus the planet of love where she’s domicile and exalted, the true expression. Notice none of these signs or planets energies are passionate, intense, obsessiveness, lusty etc, but signs where she’s detriment or fallen are! Aries (selfish, passion. sex, exciting, impulsive), Scorpio (jealous, controlling, obsessive, intense) and Virgo (critical, fault-finding). These are actually the opposite of love and are mars; which is like, lust, desire. Not to say you can’t have both or that they’re mutually exclusive, but it’s an important distinction to make and to know the difference.

So to answer your question; Soul connection in a synastry and composite is going to show up as lots of harmonious positive moon contacts. Since moon is the true self, the most intimate and vulnerable part, the heart, our emotions, the place where we feel and how and where we truly connect on the deepest level. If you see a synastry without much moon contacts, or only negative ones, there can be a ton of attraction and passion, but there’s not going to be genuine love, understanding, or a true feeling based connection from the heart/soul.
For a heart to heart connection- moons trine, sextile or conjunct.
Moon trine or conjunct moon is one of the best it shows true compatibility, a real understanding of each other and harmony. Even just moons compatible by element or sign but not in aspect helps tremendously. (Fire-air, earth-water or same element).
Moon conjunct, trine, sextile Venus; tons of affection, sweetness, care, harmony and just wanting to be nice and accommodate each other. The Venus person is like a balm to the moon person. You two have a lot in common, similar interests/values and you just plain and like each other as people, enjoy each other’s company and feel good together.
Moon conjunct, trine, sextile Jupiter; AMAZING, moon feels so supported and nurtured by Jupiter, Jupiter is protective, supportive, very tolerant and understanding of moon and they make each other feel happier, more optimistic and open. Jupiter is exalted in cancer, Jupiter LOVES moon. These two planets work together beautifully. Jupiter also shows respect (it’s the planet that shows respect, little known fact lol you’re welcome ) so if you wanna see if someone will respect you, look to see how and what their Jupiter is touching in your chart, and look to see how your Jupiter is touching their chart to see if you’ll respect them! So positive moon-Jupiter; respectful of your feelings.
Moon conjunct, trine, sextile mercury; these aspects are so understated. This shows a real understanding of each other, the way moon reacts and responds makes sense to the mercury person, really good communication, you’re able to verbally expressive yourself better if you’re the moon and you guys really think alike usually (have to look at mercury to mercury and the other persons moon too). Deep/intimate talks.
Venus conjunct, trine, sextile Jupiter; really warm, expressive, generous, fun aspect. Another feel good happy aspect. Similar values usually, very forgiving and makes the Venus person feel more confident, appreciated. Venus will be able to really open up and express their love towards Jupiter. Warmth in one word to sum it up. No feelings of awkwardness here.

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Actually I've known people who did not marry out of love. They married out of obligations, social pressure, pregnancy etc... and one friend told me she married to get out of her family. This ain't love and their marriages weren't happy and didn't last (although they dragged for yearsss because of children).

So my point is we don't necessarily marry the one we feel most intense about. This is idealistic thinking. Rather, I think such marriages have karmic debts. Conversely, there are great loves that didn't turn into marriage due to circumstances.

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posted July 12, 2019 09:21 PM            

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Originally posted by LunaIscariot:
Always devils advocate lol. Of course we can go into semantics, but it’s 2019. MOST people (of course there’s always an exception) marry out of love, there was actually a study recently that said over 85 present of people would only marry if they loved the person. So yeah, people marry who they love the most, most people aren’t forced or have to, they do because the want to. That’s why they agree and want to get married, because the love the person. And that’s the 7th house. 5th house is not serious, it’s fun and flings and dating, the 5th house is NEVER going to show the love of your life. It’s whoever matches your 7th house by sign, the ruler by sign, house and aspects and what planets fall into that house or how the ruler is being aspected. I’ve studied over 5000 couples synastry charts. Personal, clients, celebrities etc. I can confirm this 100 percent. It’s always the person who matches the 7th that the person loves or loved the most, usually with the 5th and or 8th thrown in too. But even if it’s just the 7th. I’ve read for people who their ex’s were very much their 5th but not their 7th. But then their current spouse is very much their 7th and not doing much to their 5th and that person is head over heels. No comparison to their 5th house ex. I’ve also seen couples who one matches the 7th and for the other they only match their 5th. It’s always an imbalance, the 7th person is more in love and the 5th house person tends to cheat or feel unfulfilled because that person isn’t what they’re truly looking for or what they want from a partner. Because were searching for our DSC, it’s our ideal partner. The qualities, traits and energy and even looks. It’s called our ideal, that word, for a reason. There’s no other house that matches it. It’s the house ruled by venus (love).
If you look back on all the people you’re most attracted to what they have in common, it’s your DSC. If you don’t agree, it’s because you have the wrong tob. I promise.
It NEVER fails, in thousands of charts and even personal experience lol it’s uncanny so uncanny and foolproof that I’ve 1000 percent confident in saying it.
Yes, we like our 5th and our Venus/mars, but it’s no comparison to our 7th. That’s like puppy love, a crush on the girl in class, 5th house relationships never last or get to marriage without the 7th because it’s not deep or strong enough for us to want to MARRY. Choose to stay with just that person over everyone else. They’re not what we’re ultimately looking for.

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What about when people say they're not attracted to their 7th house?

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Originally posted by LunaIscariot:
Always devils advocate lol. Of course we can go into semantics, but it’s 2019. MOST people (of course there’s always an exception) marry out of love, there was actually a study recently that said over 85 present of people would only marry if they loved the person. So yeah, people marry who they love the most, most people aren’t forced or have to, they do because the want to. That’s why they agree and want to get married, because the love the person. And that’s the 7th house. 5th house is not serious, it’s fun and flings and dating, the 5th house is NEVER going to show the love of your life. It’s whoever matches your 7th house by sign, the ruler by sign, house and aspects and what planets fall into that house or how the ruler is being aspected. I’ve studied over 5000 couples synastry charts. Personal, clients, celebrities etc. I can confirm this 100 percent. It’s always the person who matches the 7th that the person loves or loved the most, usually with the 5th and or 8th thrown in too. But even if it’s just the 7th. I’ve read for people who their ex’s were very much their 5th but not their 7th. But then their current spouse is very much their 7th and not doing much to their 5th and that person is head over heels. No comparison to their 5th house ex. I’ve also seen couples who one matches the 7th and for the other they only match their 5th. It’s always an imbalance, the 7th person is more in love and the 5th house person tends to cheat or feel unfulfilled because that person isn’t what they’re truly looking for or what they want from a partner. Because were searching for our DSC, it’s our ideal partner. The qualities, traits and energy and even looks. It’s called our ideal, that word, for a reason. There’s no other house that matches it. It’s the house ruled by venus (love).
If you look back on all the people you’re most attracted to what they have in common, it’s your DSC. If you don’t agree, it’s because you have the wrong tob. I promise.
It NEVER fails, in thousands of charts and even personal experience lol it’s uncanny so uncanny and foolproof that I’ve 1000 percent confident in saying it.
Yes, we like our 5th and our Venus/mars, but it’s no comparison to our 7th. That’s like puppy love, a crush on the girl in class, 5th house relationships never last or get to marriage without the 7th because it’s not deep or strong enough for us to want to MARRY. Choose to stay with just that person over everyone else. They’re not what we’re ultimately looking for.

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My argument here is TYPE vs LOVE. The 7th house shows the type you like, but does it mean these are people you love most intensely? Maybe not. The e.g.s I gave are from people I know personally, not some stories I hear from friends/relatives that I cannot confirm. I'm sure if you study their synastries they would have some 7H matchings, if not why would they have married if this house supposedly shows who you marry, right? Then why are they telling me they actually didn't really love their ex-spouses? Or that they're not the ones they loved most.

Tbh, I was surprised because I always thought we would marry the ones we love most, no? Their testimonies made me do a double take at love & marriages.

My first bf supposedly matched my 7H. He has Sun/Mercury conjunct my Dsc & NN. But truthfully, I never wanted to marry him. Something always felt "off".

posted July 13, 2019 06:52 AM            

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Originally posted by LunaIscariot:
That saying, “when you like a flower you pick it, but when you love one, you water it” is a really good example of what real love is. Love is trust, support, care, affection, wanting what’s best for that person even if it means not being with them or them with someone else.

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I really like your flower analogy and I fully agree that's what real love is - to support & nurture them, not destroy them.

And I attest to Moon-Moon compatibility. My bestie and I have Moon conjunct Moon and she's about the ONLY person who I can really connect with emotionally in a very seamless way. We instinctively know how the other person is feeling, what to say and how to provide emotional support. We will also naturally seek each other out when we're down. The trines and sextiles are also good even if they're out of orb. The natural affinity is still felt IME.

Venus-Moon is another lovely aspect. I've experienced the conjunction/trine/sextile. With the trine/sextile DW I have the sweetest connection. Both guys were extremely sweet and gentle with me. Even after we broke up, they continue to be so, so I really adore this aspect. 👍

As for Moon-Jupiter, I think even the square/opposite are good. I was Jupiter opposite his Moon and I do respect his feelings lol.

Btw, I wanna seek your opinion on a Synastry where the man's Moon forms the following aspects. Do you think there's enough for soul connection on his part? I don't know his ToB so I can only be sure of these:

His Moon falls in her 1st house
They have Moons in quincunx signs
His Moon may semi-sextile her Sun
His Moon may sesquisquare her Saturn
His Moon may semi-square her Pluto
His Moon may trine her MC
His Moon may widely conjunct her Mercury

posted July 13, 2019 08:02 AM            

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Originally posted by LunaIscariot:
Always devils advocate lol. Of course we can go into semantics, but it’s 2019. MOST people (of course there’s always an exception) marry out of love, there was actually a study recently that said over 85 present of people would only marry if they loved the person. So yeah, people marry who they love the most, most people aren’t forced or have to, they do because the want to. That’s why they agree and want to get married, because the love the person. And that’s the 7th house. 5th house is not serious, it’s fun and flings and dating, the 5th house is NEVER going to show the love of your life. It’s whoever matches your 7th house by sign, the ruler by sign, house and aspects and what planets fall into that house or how the ruler is being aspected. I’ve studied over 5000 couples synastry charts. Personal, clients, celebrities etc. I can confirm this 100 percent. It’s always the person who matches the 7th that the person loves or loved the most, usually with the 5th and or 8th thrown in too. But even if it’s just the 7th. I’ve read for people who their ex’s were very much their 5th but not their 7th. But then their current spouse is very much their 7th and not doing much to their 5th and that person is head over heels. No comparison to their 5th house ex. I’ve also seen couples who one matches the 7th and for the other they only match their 5th. It’s always an imbalance, the 7th person is more in love and the 5th house person tends to cheat or feel unfulfilled because that person isn’t what they’re truly looking for or what they want from a partner. Because were searching for our DSC, it’s our ideal partner. The qualities, traits and energy and even looks. It’s called our ideal, that word, for a reason. There’s no other house that matches it. It’s the house ruled by venus (love).
If you look back on all the people you’re most attracted to what they have in common, it’s your DSC. If you don’t agree, it’s because you have the wrong tob. I promise.
It NEVER fails, in thousands of charts and even personal experience lol it’s uncanny so uncanny and foolproof that I’ve 1000 percent confident in saying it.
Yes, we like our 5th and our Venus/mars, but it’s no comparison to our 7th. That’s like puppy love, a crush on the girl in class, 5th house relationships never last or get to marriage without the 7th because it’s not deep or strong enough for us to want to MARRY. Choose to stay with just that person over everyone else. They’re not what we’re ultimately looking for.

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posted July 13, 2019 11:06 AM            

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Originally posted by cultstatus:
What do you think is more potent and or common in the charts you’ve studied? Personal planets in another’s 7th or a strongly aspected 7th house ruler?

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Definitely pure symbolism matching. So the planet in the 7th or conjunct the DSC. A strongly aspected ruler is also great, but if that person doesn’t actually match our DSC type it’s one of those weird “I don’t know why I like him/her, why I’m attracted their not my usual type” kinda thing lol. It’s not as strong, but it’s definitely a type of glue and will show attraction forsure.