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meltypie
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posted July 25, 2019 01:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for meltypie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does this type of synastry have potential for a long term relationship?

These two are in a serious, online relationship, but have never met.

Is it a one-sided affair? Will Ppc not be attracted to II once they meet up?

What are your thoughts on this?

There are no synastry aspects in declination with Ppc's Mars, Venus, and Moon, either.

There is a composite Venus and Mars square Neptune aspect, so there's that potential for projecting love and sexual fantasies onto one another, only to reveal disappointment when or if they meet up.

The 5th, 7th, and 8th houses aren't activated in Ppc's chart, and Ppc's Mars Venus AND Moon aren't being touched, either. The ruler of Ppc's Leo Venus, Mars, and Moon is the Sun, and the Sun is being activated by II's Moon, Sun, and Venus by conj., square, and trine, respectively - but from the 6th, 9th, and 10th house, which aren't romantic/relational houses.

II's Saturn in the 7th is being activated by Ppc's Sun, which also trines her Venus in the 5th.


Synastry

Composite

And the link for the Davison Chart in case anyone is curious - I heard from an astrologer it is more accurate. http://i65.tinypic.com/14l5vgw.png

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LunaIscariot
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posted July 25, 2019 01:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LunaIscariot     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Try reposting the pics using tiny pic

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meltypie
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posted July 25, 2019 02:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for meltypie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks! It worked!

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Hikaru29
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posted July 27, 2019 10:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Did you say 2 people who have never met in a "serious" relationship? Seriously...

This explains why there's Neptune square Venus/Mars in their chart. Plus Uranus squares = erratic/unconventional relationship, hot/cold affection and clash of wills. Put them all together and it looks challenging.

But they will have a lot of good fun together - Sun/Venus/Mars conjunction supported by Jupiter.

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meltypie
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posted July 27, 2019 11:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for meltypie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
Did you say 2 people who have never met in a "serious" relationship? Seriously...

This explains why there's Neptune square Venus/Mars in their chart. Plus Uranus squares = erratic/unconventional relationship, hot/cold affection and clash of wills. Put them all together and it looks challenging.

But they will have a lot of good fun together - Sun/Venus/Mars conjunction supported by Jupiter.


Yeah! They've been talking every single day for almost a year now. It's a long-distance online relationship, which shows the unconventional side of the relationship. What can you say about the Neptune squares? I've read about delusion (Venus), projection of sexual fantasies (Mars), disappointment, but also a potential to love one another for who they really are after the veil is lifted.

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todd
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posted July 27, 2019 04:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hi meltypie

actually there is a very hot attraction shown in tne composite.
the sun/mars midpoint is conjunct to venus and venus is square to urnaus . also the venus/mars midpoint is square to Neptune.

this gives an immediate electric sexual/physical attraction.

but this raltionhip has absolutely no chance to turn into a serious realtioship because urnaus gives very hot sexual attrction but if and when they do the wild thing, the attraction will melt away. this is a brief fling at best. in addition with venus/mars square to neptune, they are both "players". the game is se and again if and when they do "it'", it will be over. neither are interested in anything except a good time.

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meltypie
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posted August 08, 2019 06:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for meltypie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for your input, Todd! These two talk about marriage though - they're both individually looking for something serious and long lasting. Do you think that will all go into the hole when they meet up? Like the composite energies fully trigger and come into fruition. They are already sexually attracted to each other, though, despite never having met before.

Most of all, the Sagittarius is worried that the Virgo won't see in her anything he's attracted to because of the unaspected Venus, Mars, and Moon. What do you (or anyone) think about this?

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posted August 09, 2019 11:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for margym0o     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by meltypie:
Thank you for your input, Todd! These two talk about marriage though - they're both individually looking for something serious and long lasting. Do you think that will all go into the hole when they meet up? Like the composite energies fully trigger and come into fruition. They are already sexually attracted to each other, though, despite never having met before.

Most of all, the Sagittarius is worried that the Virgo won't see in her anything he's attracted to because of the unaspected Venus, Mars, and Moon. What do you (or anyone) think about this?


Having experienced something similar, I can tell you meeting in person is VERY different. Very. You can be whoever you want to be online with no one holding you accountable (some people thrive on the online fantasy), but the day of reckoning will come when they finally meet and everything they promised to each other will need to be lived up to. They've never felt the true "essence" of the other person yet (their aura, vibe, smell, the way they move, carry themselves etc.) and this can be a real game changer.

In my situation, it actually went extremely well. Better than expected. It was as easy in person as it was online. The composite was very supportive however (no red flags) so this made sense. It did turn out to be just a very strong friendship though, as the romantic relationship faded after a couple years.

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posted August 09, 2019 11:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Librapurr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by todd:
hi meltypi.

but this raltionhip has absolutely no chance to turn into a serious realtioship because urnaus gives very hot sexual attrction but if and when they do the wild thing, the attraction will melt away. this is a brief fling at best. in addition with venus/mars square to neptune, they are both "players". the game is se and again if and when they do "it'", it will be over. neither are interested in anything except a good time.

todd


Can you tell if similar situation in synastry (venus/mars square to Neptune), but Uranus sextile/ conjunct Venus/Mars. Would it be a short-term attraction too? Are they players too?
(Also, there're Pluto conjunctions to Sun/Moon in the mix, but only from one side)

Thank you.

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posted August 09, 2019 01:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Librapurr:
Can you tell if similar situation in synastry (venus/mars square to Neptune), but Uranus sextile/ conjunct Venus/Mars. Would it be a short-term attraction too? Are they players too?
(Also, there're Pluto conjunctions to Sun/Moon in the mix, but only from one side)

Thank you.


synastry charts have different dynamics as it show individuals as they are and not how the will be if they form a relationship, so it is difficult to transfer the meaning of an aspect from a composite to synastry.

in your example with the Uranus sextile/ conjunct Venus/Mars, i think the relationship would be more stable. as the player aspect with mars/venus square to Neptune would likely be less important.

but you really need someone who specializes in synastry to comment. I don't pay much attention to synastry when determining the nature of a relationship.to me synastry is the potential but not the actuality of how the personalities will function. and I am sure we all know that often people can change drastically in relationships.
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posted August 09, 2019 01:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Librapurr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by todd:
synastry charts have different dynamics as it show individuals as they are and not how the will be if they form a relationship, so it is difficult to transfer the meaning of an aspect from a composite to synastry.

in your example with the Uranus sextile/ conjunct Venus/Mars, i think the relationship would be more stable. as the player aspect with mars/venus square to Neptune would likely be less important.

but you really need someone who specializes in synastry to comment. I don't pay much attention to synastry when determining the nature of a relationship.to me synastry is the potential but not the actuality of how the personalities will function. and I am sure we all know that often people can change drastically in relationships.
todd



Thank you for your explanation. I had an opposite perception before: synastry has more influence on relationship outcomes . I'd look differently now.

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