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astrogal
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posted September 08, 2019 02:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for astrogal     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just joined yesterday, so I think I posted this in another thread, but it was probably in the wrong place and didn't post the pictorial chart. I just picked out the major aspects and wrote them down in words that I felt were vital. Can you guys just point out the most obvious placements and your interpretation of this chart. It's a person I had a previous romantic relationship with. I'm the Scorpio.

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posted September 08, 2019 02:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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astrogal
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posted September 08, 2019 02:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for astrogal     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you!

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Stoika7
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posted September 08, 2019 05:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It seems you two chose an opposite direction in life and might have not been willing to give up on something for the other, even so the glue was strong and it all felt fated. It looks intense but something suddenly fell apart...? You might have felt distant and he might have been selfish and stubborn. Too bad cause the Jupiter/Moon and Moon/Moon conjunction were powerful, with both Lilith involved in the picture, opposite his Venus, it seems the intimacy was very intense and also the Neptune aspects very inspiring, but I see selfish attitudes and unstable committment. I'd be curious to look at the Composite chart.

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astrogal
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posted September 08, 2019 07:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astrogal     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I feel like he's distant, selfish, and does want to live less of a committed lifestyle. I think it's over for good, but I'm not sure. I can still feel it. It's been very long and drawn out. It was long distance and I tried to take it to the next level and he freaked out. There are other factors involved, too.

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astrogal
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posted September 08, 2019 08:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astrogal     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for looking at this! This whole thing baffles me. I've never had a chart this heavy with anyone. I've had ones that were sort of similar...lots of 5th and 8th house activity, but not as sharp as these or all in Scorpio. It's insane!

Here is the composite!

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Stoika7
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posted September 08, 2019 11:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I see, well with your Pluto square to his Sun and Mercury on your 2nd house, and your Venus square the Moon/Moon-Jupiter (in your 8th) opposite his Venus, it looks like a bond hard to let go for you. From some of his natal aspects, he looks somehow conservative and would not risk a committment if he's not sure what's all about, with his Chiron opposite his Saturn/Uranus he might not be too open for changes unless he feels completely comfortable, and his Saturn square to your NN looks like a red light for committment...
So the Uranus square venus might show the long distance nature of your rs.
The Composite stellium looks powerful again, and Moon/Lilith on the DSC trine to Uranus/Mars shows the intense and exciting emotional involvement, but I see three negative aspects here, the Neptune/Sun opposite Jupiter/NN suggest there is an element of duplicity, not complete deception, but he might have led you to have certain romantic expectations he wasnt actually ready/willing to carry out in reality, as you say to the next level, then the second aspect is that the Mars/Uranus opposite Chiron in 4th house suggests a painful distance/separation, and then the Saturn square to the Moon/Lilith/DSC looks like a big emotional block. The Saturn/Pluto on MC sextile to the stellium shows it's been going on for a while and likely hard to let go, also cause the SN is involved... A lot of dreams, expectations and idealization that probably werent too realistic... Unluckily the Sun/Neptune/SN opposite Jupiter suggests it's not easy to bring the relationship on an actual reality/committment level, unless you both accept the distance and issues involved.

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posted September 09, 2019 07:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astrogal     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think you hit the nail on the head there. It's very likely done, but extremely difficult to let go of. I think he's very likely let go and just wants me to go away, but acknowledges that on some level I was an important part of his life. It's hard to accept that somebody can just let go of something like that so easily. I say easily, but I don't think it was easy. So, what you see is more on my end. Outwardly expressed, I'd say it's more on my end, but internally, there might be more than meets the eye with him. He's very Plutonic. Mixed with Cappy makes for a person who doesn't have an easy time outwardly expressing anything so it makes him hard to read. Thank you for looking at that. I'm still working on trying to let go. If he's meant to come back someday, he will. If not, then I guess I can't be sad and miserable about it forever. It was long distance and did go on for a number of years, but in those years, we did try to visit as much as possible, but when I tried to kick it up a notch, red light!!!

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posted September 09, 2019 07:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by astrogal:
I think you hit the nail on the head there. It's very likely done, but extremely difficult to let go of. I think he's very likely let go and just wants me to go away, but acknowledges that on some level I was an important part of his life. It's hard to accept that somebody can just let go of something like that so easily. I say easily, but I don't think it was easy. So, what you see is more on my end. Outwardly expressed, I'd say it's more on my end, but internally, there might be more than meets the eye with him. He's very Plutonic. Mixed with Cappy makes for a person who doesn't have an easy time outwardly expressing anything so it makes him hard to read. Thank you for looking at that. I'm still working on trying to let go. If he's meant to come back someday, he will. If not, then I guess I can't be sad and miserable about it forever. It was long distance and did go on for a number of years, but in those years, we did try to visit as much as possible, but when I tried to kick it up a notch, red light!!!

You're welcome ❤️ Sorry it doesnt look very promising yet such a powerful energy between you two... From the synastry, I had the idea he was actually strongly affected by the relationship, and it doesnt look so easy to let go for him either... as you say, he likely doesnt express too much about it. It just seems there's something "rooted" in his life, mindset or professional goals that keeps him "stuck" on his decisions or so... maybe I am wrong of course, it just seems he might have made a choice and chose his own direction, maybe based more on material/logical reasons than emotional ones.

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posted September 09, 2019 08:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astrogal     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Again, I think you have him nailed, lol! He's very logic-minded and anything emotional he can tune out and exert his logic over it. I don't think he's of the type of mind to deal with something this emotional. I think it really caught him off guard and he's made a decision. I think he's fought it the last couple of years, but then when he comes back to his everyday life can't see how it would ever fit. He's really glossed over any emotion and has replaced it with 100 percent logic. This is probably some confirmation. I'm working hard on moving on, but i don't think there will ever be another quite like this one! I don't really know anyone who can read charts as well or better than I can. I'm kinda the go-to person in my circle for that so I thought this might be a good place to look form confirmation and insight. I guess I'll see him in the next lifetime, lol!

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posted September 09, 2019 08:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by astrogal:
Again, I think you have him nailed, lol! He's very logic-minded and anything emotional he can tune out and exert his logic over it. I don't think he's of the type of mind to deal with something this emotional. I think it really caught him off guard and he's made a decision. I think he's fought it the last couple of years, but then when he comes back to his everyday life can't see how it would ever fit. He's really glossed over any emotion and has replaced it with 100 percent logic. This is probably some confirmation. I'm working hard on moving on, but i don't think there will ever be another quite like this one! I don't really know anyone who can read charts as well or better than I can. I'm kinda the go-to person in my circle for that so I thought this might be a good place to look form confirmation and insight. I guess I'll see him in the next lifetime, lol!

Well the nodes contacts you had were very strong, so it certainly looks karmic, in a way that it will likely always have an impact on your future relationships and you might find yourself looking back at this one... Yes, your description of his logical nature fits with the idea I had from the charts. Btw, I know it's not quite cheering up right now, but I just came across this sentence: "If you can love the wrong person that much, imagine how much you can love the right one." ❤️

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posted September 09, 2019 08:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astrogal     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I definitely have the capacity once I can get past this! It just might take a while. There were alot of obstacles and had they not been there, it may have not worked out anyway, but it kept me around, hoping some of them would lift and some of them did, but things seemed to wane even more as they did, such a strange connection I had with this person. It was a very dark, trying time, but this person taught me how to communicate. I had to, because he couldn't.

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posted September 09, 2019 08:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astrogal     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also, thanks for listening! That quote had me shed a lil tear, lol! I'm still quite emotional about his situation. I was the one who ultimately ended it in a really unkind, improper way. We've seen each other a couple of times since and were intimate, but it changed something.

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posted September 09, 2019 08:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted September 09, 2019 09:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astrogal     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, hey, Ami! I've been there before, but not in a while...checking it out now! I'm going to post our progressed synastry chart. If anybody has any thoughts or sees anything significant, would you please let me know so I can brace myself in preparation. I'd like to warn myself of any further developments!

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posted September 09, 2019 09:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by astrogal:
Also, thanks for listening! That quote had me shed a lil tear, lol! I'm still quite emotional about his situation. I was the one who ultimately ended it in a really unkind, improper way. We've seen each other a couple of times since and were intimate, but it changed something.

It's great to meet you Astrogal ❤️❤️❤️ Sorry for the quote, I just wished to wish you the love you deserve ❤️
Transit Uranus on your natal Chiron opposite Venus, while Mercury is transiting on your SN square to ASC and tr Saturn/SN square your Pluto, this whole configuration looks like you needed a definite "resolution" to the situation and might have felt the urge of a turning point, even though in a "painful" way (Chiron)... transiting Mercury/Venus will get through the Composite Pluto/Saturn sextile to the Composite stellium early next month, you might have a chance to re-open a communication channel or it looks like a favourable time for that, but since this is going to oppose your Chiron, it might be draining. tr SN will be gone from your Pluto by the end of next month, so I guess that's the time you might better "detach" yourself and let go.

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astrogal
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posted September 09, 2019 09:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astrogal     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh no, it's fine. I just know what I have to do so it made me a little sad. All of it makes me sad. I had even started up something else and was almost totally over it, but we started speaking again and saw one another. I already tried to reopen communication and I did in a small way, but it didn't go totally as I had hoped and it's probably not ever going to. It yielded a very minimal crumb. This is one of those learning experiences...Also, it's great to meet you as well, Stokia7!!!

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