posted October 01, 2019 05:46 PM            

I'm the blue, she is the orange.

Synastry:
[img]https://i.ibb.co/hYRXTzx/synistry.jpg[/img]

Comp:
[img]https://i.ibb.co/8KRdMVF/comp.jpg[/img]
(houses and AC not confirmed)

posted October 03, 2019 01:24 PM            

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Originally posted by NotSoSure:
...a romantic relationship?

I'm the blue, she is the orange.

https://i.ibb.co/gdvpQyK/Screenshot-2019-09-22-at-19-08-22.png

Thanks in advance for taking the time to answer!

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posted October 03, 2019 01:47 PM            

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Originally posted by kate999:
Hey you can do it under my original post, you can quote him here. I dont mind

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posted October 03, 2019 06:40 PM            

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Originally posted by Stoika7:
Hi NotSoSure,

there is an intense attraction and you hit his emotional subconscious and fantasies deeply... you have DW Pluto square Venus, thus you might even become obsessed with each other, and it would be very hard to let go and move on whether the relationship ends. It might have started with love at first signt.
There are a few challenging aspects though. You have DW Neptune square Jupiter, this aspect can signal misunderstandings, distrust or duplicity as feelings and thoughts might not be expressed or left unsaid, or you might not know where the other stands, or even a plain deception may come into play... also, the Uranus opposite Mars can arise arguments and impulsive reactions in this whole picture.
If you like, you could post a composite chart to check if there's long time potential or how these synastry aspects play out in the relationship.

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Hi Stoika!

Thank you so much!

Yes absolutely! The attraction is very intense...
I'm not sure if it was love at first sight, but it was definitely intense stare at first sight!
But yes, there was something "magic" straight from the bat, for sure.

Just a note: I'm the guy, not the girl.

This is our composite chart:

[img]https://i.ibb.co/54yP2xv/Comp.png[/img]

Sun in 9° 26' Taurus
Moon in 8° 13' Scorpio
Mercury in 6° 8' Taurus
Venus in 29° 49' Libra
Mars in 27° 4' Taurus
Jupiter in 0° 20' Capricorn
Saturn in 11° 58' Scorpio
Uranus in 11° 11' Sagittarius
Neptune in 0° 5' Capricorn
Pluto in 0° 45' Scorpio
North Node in 8° 8' Gemini
Chiron in 3° 46' Gemini
Ascendant in 15° 31' Taurus
MC in 21° 31' Capricorn

posted October 03, 2019 07:42 PM            

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Just a note: I'm the guy, not the girl.

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Sorry about that!!!

Well... I think that with MC trine ASC/Mars and sextile Moon, Moon conjunct Saturn opposite ASC, Sun trine Jupiter... I would even see some "marriage material here".

This all looks quite faithful, deeply loving and affectionate and full of devotion. Also, with the Pluto/Venus opposite Sun and Chiron conjunct Mars, you have a very intense intimacy and a deep emotional/sexual bond. Also, psychic connection can be established, where you understand each other instantly without words, and telepathic synchronicities, with the Sun/Mercury in 12th house and Uranus opposite NN/Chiron.

The Composite Sun in 12th house can be a little tricky. While it gives a karmic fated, "magical" trait with a psychic other worldly dimension to the relationship, it can also point to unsolved issues or extreme platonic love or even one sided love. I dont see strong negative aspects here, so I assume it would be more about a karmic indication.

Also, the Mercury 12th house might give some unclear communication, as if your intuitive connection might actually mislead you in not fully grabbing where the other really stands and what she really thinks...

posted October 04, 2019 01:54 PM            

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Originally posted by Stoika7:

Sorry about that!!!

Well... I think that with MC trine ASC/Mars and sextile Moon, Moon conjunct Saturn opposite ASC, Sun trine Jupiter... I would even see some "marriage material here".

This all looks quite faithful, deeply loving and affectionate and full of devotion. Also, with the Pluto/Venus opposite Sun and Chiron conjunct Mars, you have a very intense intimacy and a deep emotional/sexual bond. Also, psychic connection can be established, where you understand each other instantly without words, and telepathic synchronicities, with the Sun/Mercury in 12th house and Uranus opposite NN/Chiron.

The Composite Sun in 12th house can be a little tricky. While it gives a karmic fated, "magical" trait with a psychic other worldly dimension to the relationship, it can also point to unsolved issues or extreme platonic love or even one sided love. I dont see strong negative aspects here, so I assume it would be more about a karmic indication.

Also, the Mercury 12th house might give some unclear communication, as if your intuitive connection might actually mislead you in not fully grabbing where the other really stands and what she really thinks...

Btw, note that I'm not used to read this kind of chart graphic style, so I might miss something. In case you want me to furtherly look at it, I would ask you to pull out the chart from astro.com.

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No worries!

Ooh whoa! Okaaaay! Wasn't expecting the marriage material part! That's very interesting and good news...

The psychic connection is very true, we kind of communicate with stares and somehow we get what we are thinking...
It's actually weird because this sort of connection is new to me. I myself am still trying to understand what's going on.
Usually I can read people, but I never felt the other way around. There's something really special here.

Oh the 12th house yes... It can be tricky...
The unclear communication is what worries me.

Thank you so much Stoika! I really appreciate you doing this!

And yes of course! Here's the composite chart from astro.com.
Unfortunately I don't know her ToB... So I'm simulating 12pm for her.

[img]https://i.ibb.co/54KsDy0/comp-web-2.jpg[/img]

posted October 04, 2019 05:30 PM            

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Originally posted by NotSoSure:
No worries!

Ooh whoa! Okaaaay! Wasn't expecting the marriage material part! That's very interesting and good news...

The psychic connection is very true, we kind of communicate with stares and somehow we get what we are thinking...
It's actually weird because this sort of connection is new to me. I myself am still trying to understand what's going on.
Usually I can read people, but I never felt the other way around. There's something really special here.

Oh the 12th house yes... It can be tricky...
The unclear communication is what worries me.

Thank you so much Stoika! I really appreciate you doing this!

And yes of course! Here's the composite chart from astro.com.
Unfortunately I don't know her ToB... So I'm simulating 12pm for her.

[img]https://i.ibb.co/54KsDy0/comp-web-2.jpg[/img]

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posted October 04, 2019 05:41 PM            

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Originally posted by Stoika7:
Thank you! Now I can see the conjunctions clearer :-)
Moon conjunct Venus and Saturn, Sun conjunct ASC, Jupiter sextile Venus... Marriage material confirmed, LOL
The Moon/Venus/Pluto conjunction is quite powerful, this shows that you can reach an incredibly intense intimacy, both emotional, sexual and deep love! This intensity is added by the opposition to the Comp. Sun, while Saturn opposite Mercury signals that while you have such an other worldly connection, you might have to learn to actually communicate in a clearer verbal way, even though the Neptune/Jupiter and Neptune trine Sun/Mercury show that you are loyal and honest to each other, and with the sextile to Venus, you can reach great romantic and heavenly moments.
The psychic connection is actually also shown in synastry with her Mercury conjunct your Pisces ASC, and your Pisces ASC is very intuitive on its own, you also have NN square Uranus natally, and this gives you also such a psychic trait. Since comp. Uranus is quincunx to Sun/Mercury, things might also play out in an unexpected way sometimes, or you might experience some on-off periods.
Comp. Uranus in 7th house gives an exciting non-traditional trait to your relationship,
If you dont have her TOB, then we dont really know the Comp. ASC and houses, so the twelve house is not confirmed!
Current transit NN is trine to Comp. Saturn and transit Uranus is conjunct comp. Mercury... so this seems a favourable time for starting the relationship. If Comp. ASC was confirmed, you would also have transit SN/Saturn square to Comp. ASC, which would signal that a potential long term bond is possibly starting.

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Hey stoika, I tagged you under on my "libra moon scorpio moon" post my synastry.

posted October 04, 2019 06:42 PM            

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Originally posted by Stoika7:
Thank you! Now I can see the conjunctions clearer :-)
Moon conjunct Venus and Saturn, Sun conjunct ASC, Jupiter sextile Venus... Marriage material confirmed, LOL
The Moon/Venus/Pluto conjunction is quite powerful, this shows that you can reach an incredibly intense intimacy, both emotional, sexual and deep love! This intensity is added by the opposition to the Comp. Sun, while Saturn opposite Mercury signals that while you have such an other worldly connection, you might have to learn to actually communicate in a clearer verbal way, even though the Neptune/Jupiter and Neptune trine Sun/Mercury show that you are loyal and honest to each other, and with the sextile to Venus, you can reach great romantic and heavenly moments.
The psychic connection is actually also shown in synastry with her Mercury conjunct your Pisces ASC, and your Pisces ASC is very intuitive on its own, you also have NN square Uranus natally, and this gives you also such a psychic trait. Since comp. Uranus is quincunx to Sun/Mercury, things might also play out in an unexpected way sometimes, or you might experience some on-off periods.
Comp. Uranus in 7th house gives an exciting non-traditional trait to your relationship,
If you dont have her TOB, then we dont really know the Comp. ASC and houses, so the twelve house is not confirmed!
Current transit NN is trine to Comp. Saturn and transit Uranus is conjunct comp. Mercury... so this seems a favourable time for starting the relationship. If Comp. ASC was confirmed, you would also have transit SN/Saturn square to Comp. ASC, which would signal that a potential long term bond is possibly starting.

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Omg this is great! I've never used charts before because of a woman! Just so you know how special this person must be... I'm running the extra mile here...

What challenges me is her Venus in Capricorn, the Scorpio Moon I have no issues with. But the Cap Venus is another story. By the way I'm not complaining, Venus in Cap is a beautiful placement. I just need to be very patient.

It's a shame not knowing her ToB, but that info will be very hard to know at this stage. I have a feeling it was after dark, between 9pm and 12am. One day I will know!

It's true, we need to work on the communication part, it's like we have a powerful car but don't know how to drive it...
There's a lot of confusion and misunderstandings because we keep relying on communicating with our minds only.

Here's an example:
(intense stares only, no verbal)

Me: "Make a move"
She: "No, you make a move"
Both of us: "Ugh"

This is so strange, because we both are skilled communicators with people in general (I'm more), but when we interact with each other verbally it's like we can't talk! Something is blocking us. It's like my Libra Moon "powers" are gone! 😭
This usually never happens!

Yes there are a lot of On-Off periods.

When I read: "this seems a favourable time for starting the relationship", it literally gave me goosebumps.

posted October 04, 2019 08:02 PM            

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Originally posted by NotSoSure:
Omg this is great! I've never used charts before because of a woman! Just so you know how special this person must be... I'm running the extra mile here...

What challenges me is her Venus in Capricorn, the Scorpio Moon I have no issues with. But the Cap Venus is another story. By the way I'm not complaining, Venus in Cap is a beautiful placement. I just need to be very patient.

It's a shame not knowing her ToB, but that info will be very hard to know at this stage. I have a feeling it was after dark, between 9pm and 12am. One day I will know!

It's true, we need to work on the communication part, it's like we have a powerful car but don't know how to drive it...
There's a lot of confusion and misunderstandings because we keep relying on communicating with our minds only.

Here's an example:
(intense stares only, no verbal)

Me: "Make a move"
She: "No, you make a move"
Both of us: "Ugh"

This is so strange, because we both are skilled communicators with people in general (I'm more), but when we interact with each other verbally it's like we can't talk! Something is blocking us. It's like my Libra Moon "powers" are gone! 😭
This usually never happens!

Yes there are a lot of On-Off periods.

When I read: "this seems a favourable time for starting the relationship", it literally gave me goosebumps.

You seem to have so much knowledge about this, and I can feel you dedicate so much time studying it. I really appreciate your dedication, also I want to thank you for taking the time to analyze our charts... Thank you! Really.

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You're very welcome!
Well, of course you have doubts about her Cap Venus, in synastry your Sun is opposite to it, but this is also a sign of great attraction!
The kind of "block" you describe, I think it is shown by the synastry Saturn/Uranus opposite Mars/Mercury. This is also sign of attraction and at the same time the block, and since you have Mars sextile Mars, it seems like if Saturn is delaying the first move. And here a delay can actually happen, also cause of the Composite Saturn opposite Sun (and mercury!)... so it can be that Saturn, together with her Cap Venus, will make things a little slow to develope. Whether you finally find the key to unblock the situation, things can become quite intense though, given those aspects. Your Mars is trine to her Sun, and your Sun is trine to her mercury and moon... so I am afraid that the first move is up to you :-D
Given those aspects, I would not rule out that she might be impressed as soon as you finally open your mouth :-)

posted October 05, 2019 07:48 AM            

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Originally posted by Stoika7:

The kind of "block" you describe, I think it is shown by the synastry Saturn/Uranus opposite Mars/Mercury. This is also sign of attraction and at the same time the block, and since you have Mars sextile Mars, it seems like if Saturn is delaying the first move. And here a delay can actually happen, also cause of the Composite Saturn opposite Sun (and mercury!)... so it can be that Saturn, together with her Cap Venus, will make things a little slow to develope. Whether you finally find the key to unblock the situation, things can become quite intense though, given those aspects.

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Saturn always delaying things, but for a good reason I suppose!
I feel like a lot of energy is silently building up underneath a volcano, and once we both have a green light there will be explosions of feelings and emotions like we've never seen before. Something big is coming! I can feel it. The more we wait the more intense will be.
I hope no one will be near us when that happens haha!

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Your Mars is trine to her Sun, and your Sun is trine to her mercury and moon... so I am afraid that the first move is up to you :-D

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Damn... It's always me who has to... Fair enough, I'll do it!
Grrrrr...

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Given those aspects, I would not rule out that she might be impressed as soon as you finally open your mouth :-)

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Oh really? That's motivating!

She is extremely careful and serious about feelings, she can switch from smile into serious when I touch her "romantic" side. It's like she panics.

Thanks again Stoika!

posted October 05, 2019 05:00 PM            

Well, you know... good things come from the waiting :-)

posted October 05, 2019 07:19 PM            

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Originally posted by Stoika7:
Given your Pisces ASC (like mine!) I completely trust your feelings about that volcano building up :-D

Well, you know... good things come from the waiting :-)

Just... give me updates! :-))

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I knew you had Pisces somewhere haha

posted November 10, 2019 09:04 AM            

Stoika, I have some updates.

(please don't quote as I will delete this soon as a respect to our privacy)

I told her I like her face to face, straight forward.
She looked shocked, wasn't expecting it obviously, she started to have some tears and said that she can't have the same feelings because she still loves her ex-boyfriend, and that she can't move on until he is still in her mind. She thought he was the one, it's been very hard for her to forget him and it's affecting her whole life.

She is blocked and can't move on from that past. She is not ready for a relationship at the moment, she can only love one person, and because of the past relationship experience she promised herself she wouldn't love someone else anymore. Because she doesn't want to feel the same pain.

I told her that I totality understand that. And that everything makes sense.
I was very supportive and caring.

It was a long conversation, about an hour, very intense and extremely emotional, she was very vulnerable and fragile, she told me a lot of deep bad personal things from her past that she can't never forget and affected her present and will affect the future. She opened up a lot. She trusts me big time...

I told her that I will try to do my best to continue having the same level of relationship we always had but that I needed some time to process things. She understood and supported my decision.

posted November 10, 2019 12:04 PM            

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Originally posted by Librapurr:
NotSoSure, I think you’re doing fine. You can’t expect somebody would confess love to you right away. Some people have love from the first sight , some need much more time to to see if it might work to give their love. Also, her Mars in Taurus, she needs stability and security from a partner. Actually, it’s between Taurus and Aries. (For women preferences, you need to look more at Mars then Venus).
Again, It might be some Scorpio tests.. who knows. I had some hints my Scorpio moon wanted me to be initiative and concur him, but I have the same expectations from men.

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Yes I told her that.
I also told her I really needed to tell her as soon as possible to avoid any confusion and misleadings, she agreed and appreciated me being so honest and straightforward.
She was very understanding and tried to cooperate with everything we were talking.
She was not testing anything, I'm telling you, everything she said was extremely deep and genuine.
It's hard to explain, only being there in the moment you would know.

posted November 12, 2019 03:02 PM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
@NotSoSure
Sounds like she really needs time. I empathise with her as I'm currently also in such a relationship - one which if it ends, I'm not sure I can ever completely move on. Anyway, I believe everyone moves on eventually and perhaps then she might reconsider a relationship with you? Do you know when they broke up?

Unfortunately you don't know her ToB or you can check how you're activating her relationship houses & angles which is more accurate in assessing attraction. Planetary interaspects shows too but we can have "attractive" aspects with friends and not feel attracted because they don't activate our relationship houses & rulers. Without relationship houses activated, we will not feel the desire to start a relationship with them, e.g. my friend's Pisces Venus conj my Mars but it did nothing for us except made us close friends. My Gemini Venus also trine a lot of people's Pluto. Can't possibly be falling for all of them, lol. You realised that aspects to her angles, house overlays to her chart and your composite house placements/angle aspects are not accurate, right? Her Vertex is also not accurate and her Moon (even your composite Moon) may be a few degrees off. Did you check if she's indeed a Scorpio Moon? Your synastry shows angles conjunction which is very attractive but we don't know that for sure.

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Yes I totally understand her, for some people, specially for Scorpio Moons, it's extremely hard to let it go, it's a daily struggle that affects life in general, I respect that, it's not easy at all.

I don't know when they broke up, I think it was about a year ago, but for her it's like it was yesterday. That's how deep things can stay in their memories.

Yes she is indeed a Scorpio Moon, Moon was in Scorpio for the whole day when she was born.
And she has Moon conjunct Pluto like me, which makes letting things go harder.

Yes I'm aware without ToB we don't get an accurate overview.
Are you a Scorpio Moon? I forgot!

posted November 12, 2019 03:07 PM            

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Originally posted by Librapurr:
NotSoSure, It’s nice you had this deep communication. It sounds like she’s pretty sincere and understanding person. You’re lucky to attract better Scorpios than me.. If she had disappointing love experience not so far ago, I can see why she doesn’t want to go back to this area anytime soon, but it’ll happen eventually.

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Yes I'm very lucky that she is super mature, sincere and understanding, she actually did me a favor. She is the sweetest!

Sorry that you haven't been able to attract better Scorpios... But you will, at some point.

Yes she is very disappointed with the previous relationship, it was like a trauma...