posted October 08, 2019 12:22 PM            

I have always been an overachiever in any job/school and I'm used to people trying to test or undermine me. It has never bothered me so far to the point that I couldn't handle it, plus my peers and supervisors have always supported me. It's not any different in this job now.

But I just cannot stand her and I don't want to see her every day. There's just something so toxic about her.

And it's not that I haven't had to deal with manipulators in previous jobs. I once had a colleague in another job who was so manipulative that she had managed to get half of the team fired but not even she was getting on my nerves as this person now. The former colleague was incredibly competent at her job and I could respect her at least for that.

My question is, how is my annoyance with the current colleague apparent in our synastry or composite?
I can't for the life of me pinpoint the aspect that causes it. I'd even say that we have really good synastry.

posted October 08, 2019 02:56 PM            

I think she has a strong impact on you, even though in a negative way, cause you have such intese contacts together with Pluto square Moon, Moon square Moon, Jupiter square Sun and Uranus/Uranus square to your Mars/Venus... this is a lot of harsh energies turning those apparently positive conjunctions into negative vibes.
In Composite, Jupiter square Mars/MC is a clear rivalry indicator (in a professional environment too!) together with strong selfish attitudes, and those Moon squares, especially Moon square Uranus, giving cold feelings, and Neptune square Moon, adding duplicity and "hidden" feelings.

posted October 08, 2019 04:33 PM            

There was a time when I thought that people, especially women, who square my Moon with personal planets are the ones who irk me the most. And she has Moon and Venus (her Asc ruler) in early Aquarius.
But there are people who have such placements as well and I like them, so I excluded that possibility.

We have a lot of mirroring, too.
My Libra Sun = her Libra Asc
My Asc ruler Mars square Uranus = her Asc ruler Venus in Aquarius
My Taurus Moon = her Moon conjunct Venus
My Venus square Uranus = her Venus in Aquarius

At first we got along really well, we have a lot of in common and we still talk in a polite and friendly manner but there is a malicious undercurrent in our communication.
You'll see the usual catty behavior like giving me insulting compliments, talking over me, trying to steal my shine in front of important people and so on. I cut this s... right away and let her know I was not having it and she backed off at first. Those things are not a problem.

What worries me is, I have seen how she treats people close to her (family). And she will stop at nothing and I believe that for the first time at work there is one person who might try to do really something bad to me behind my back.
It's not the petty behaviour where someone provokes you to get a rise out of you so that you make an a.. out of yourself. There's a method to the way she treats others.

She first approaches the people and is overly nice so you might trip on the slime trail it produces.
Then begin the snide remarks, insulting compliments and so on.
Third phase is where people don't oppose her anymore and keep apologizing to her just for thinking they might have done something wrong to her and they are bending backwards just to accomodate her. I just witnessed a conversation between her and another colleague who is basically her lap dog. He first made a harmless joke and then she lashed out on him. He immediately started apologizing profusely. You should have seen the terror in his eyes.
Her boyfriend is a doormat, he is in that mode constantly, it's insane.
And she does this with freaking everyone. I'm absolutely amazed that nobody notices all of this manipulation. It's always the same, ffs!

She's stuck in phase two with me and I'll clap back at her stupid remarks and all the other crap she tries to pull with me.

posted October 08, 2019 06:15 PM            

I added a few symbols and it comes down to pure jealousy.
venus on the south node is giving the inverse of love... hatred. mars is opposed to eris which brings a completive sexual dynamic.
ceres is conjunct to chiron and these are square to Lilith and psyche.

Chiron shows a critical approach. Looking for anything she can make a negative assessment of. square to psyche and Lilith shows this is a inherent emotional reaction between you. psyche also shows it is grounded in an attraction but the south node/venus has turned this into jealousy etc.

the moon sextile to Jupiter des shows the civil rapport within the professional environment but moon square to the sun and mercury is often an indices of arguments and opposing viewpoints.

eros conjunct pluto just adds a unconscious element to the power seeking and jealousy between you.

with the eros/psyche midpoint conjunct o Neptune and the Sappho/Sedna midpoint conjunct the node and opposed to venus, there is a unconscious underlying sexual attraction that is fueling her emotions.

posted October 08, 2019 06:45 PM            

Now unto your synastry. You two have sun inconjunct sun, moon square moon and venus inconjunct venus so your styles clash, you have different ways of operating and with her fixed energy she is not interested in making adjustments for you. Add her sun opposes your venus and mars, that sun opposite mars makes you guys clash and sets you guys up for power struggles.

posted October 18, 2019 02:05 AM            

She doesn't have weird Neptune aspects but she does have a Pisces Sun and maybe the bad traits of that sign are highlighted in her personality.
She definitely is a deceptive person but not everyone reacts the same to her as not everyone sees what she does. Her boyfriend is a Scorpio Sun and I thought he'd know better. He works part time at our company, let's call him Jack. So the other day a bunch of us were talking about office dogs and who has one. Then she said "I don't have a dog but I bring Jack to the office three times a week with me", his reply: "Woof"
I was disgusted.
What the f*** is this and how does it get that bad? I know had it been the other way around, she would've killed him.

I don't want to single out one placement that points to such behavior but all the people that I have encountered that have a manipulative streak, have something Libra. She has a Libra Asc, the former colleague was a double Libra with Sun and Asc there and Pluto smack on the Asc. Another guy has a Libra Asc but also Scorpio energy, then another guy with a Libra Sun.

posted December 03, 2019 02:50 PM            

Stoika7 - always love what you have to say

Tod - I just don't know enough about asteroids to comment. But what you do is sure and ever interesting

ULT12 - that the 7H is 50/50 is always worth remembering isn't is? Nice and important point about the ASC and how "crucial" it is, and that these points "may be a significant culprit". So true!

HelixID -

Your Moon and NORTHNODE, AND your Pluto square her Moon AND Venus (a synastry t-square) -

The Pluto square: is where perhaps you have insight into her "superficiality", because it's her Venus. But, that "superficiality" is actually quite attached to her way-of-being (and safety), being conjunct her (sensitive) Moon. Pluto don't like it though. And Pluto will also see into the weakness of that Moon. Pluto don't like weakness either.

She has this aspect natally - her natal Pluto is square her Venus/Moon. She may well come across many of her peers whose Pluto don't like these vulnerable parts of her. But she has two planets there that can have a chance at defending herself (from this bi bully).

But, you have Pluto opposite your Moon natally: you may also come across many of your peers whose Pluto don't like these vulnerable (Moon) parts of you. Pluto is on your SN, actually. So you are very experienced with this big Pluto bully and all that comes with it; and in all its forms.

Both of you then may be experienced with power struggles in your life. And also victims to bullying (Pluto can be nasty business).

This Pluto square her Moon/Venus though which she has natally - you have this square with Pluto natally too, but with Jupiter (both planets are retrograde also). Your Jupiter is RIGHT ON her Venus and Moon. The tension of that square of Jupiter to Pluto you have natally, has now then a "good" outlet through this conjunction on her Venus/Moon.

That's a powerful energy there on that conjunction from both sides because there are many and powerful planets involved.

I'd say that you would be more inclined to have the "outlet" however, because for you it's big Jupiter. I would say that (her) Venus/Moon square Pluto would be more inclined to placate, and become submissive. And perhaps rather go stealth mode in releasing the energy through this synastry conjunction (that involves natal and synastry squares from Pluto).

She's pretty much got you checkmated though with the balance of planets in the chart: 2 (Ve/Mo) planets to your 1 (Jup) AND with her Venus/Moon square your Moon - the vulnerable part of you. AND her Saturn (with power of wide Mars) nearly opposite your Moon and NN. Her Saturn then, is actually on your South Node. This is powerful. And (given the points I make below too) on some level you do respect this woman I think.

Further with her Moon and Venus, it squaring your NN (and Moon) means that she's in the way of your progress (NN). She's a bump in your road. As this square is more that one planet (or point: NN) involved on both side, again making it a strong force, and a strong part of each of your wills/psyches impacting and making you notice each other.

Your Mars/Venus opposite her Sun (/Mercury wide): Oppositions are interesting in synastry because whatever squares the other person has natally, will be inherited by the other in the interaction. It is quite easy to tune into the dynamics of their chart and psyche! Any insecurities, issues, general and natural ways of functioning (good or bad), chinks in armor, etc, you will have clear insight into each other.

I think then, looking into her natal chart to see what that opposition is bringing to you would be insightful, ie, exploring the condition of her Sun (/Mercury wide). She may have other tensions in her chart she is bringing to yours and that you are sensing through this opposition. For example, it looks like she has a square with Uranus to her natal Sun. You will be feeling that through the opposition to your Mars/Venus.

But, looking here - maybe you actually do also? You have a square from Uranus to your Mars/Venus. She'll be feeling your natal Mars/Venus square Uranus too. So, you will be mirroring each other in that respect. There is some sympathy here between you both (and more than just this aspect too).

So then, another t-square in your synastry involving powerful personal planets AND powerful outer planet: your Mars/Venus, her Sun, and both of your Uranuses.

Your Mars and Venus - again, strong parts of your nature (and the power of two planets together) - being opposite her Sun (very strong part of her), as hypatia238 said perfectly: "that sun opposite mars makes you guys clash and sets you guys up for power struggles". Mars (and Venus) opposite Sun is a notorious battleground where neither will back down. But again, as it's an opposition, looking at each natal chart aspects to see what is being inherited to each person would be more insightful.

May I add though, of which there is usually also a deep respect for each other because these two planets are big enough to take on each other and will go to battle until positions are established. These planets respect that about each other. If her planet was, say, Moon or just Venus, she would instead be more placating to your Mars. And which Mars wouldn't as much respect. Or notice so directly on its radar/ in its (Mars's) face. In my opinion too (incidentally), Sun is the one planet Mars is more likely to yield to.

Still with your Mars/Venus opposite her Sun (/Mercury wide): with Uranus involved in this opposition by square however, it adds an intense irritability to your Mars (Uranus square Mars is notoriously irritable). And a greater (outer planet) force too, to that opposition between you both.

But, it does look like you both have that Uranus square natally. This opposition (with Uranus creating a t-square) is setting off both of your natal Uranus squares. But, given the planets involved for each (you Mars her Sun/Mercury wide), you'll experience it differently: she will perhaps become spaced out and erratic, you: irritable(?).

Additionally, in the synastry, that Uranus is much more closely aspecting your Mars and Venus than her Sun (and sort-of her Mercury there too; widely): Is it possible that you are more irritated by the interaction than she is then? I think so.

As you have this square natally (even widely), it would lay fairly dormantly and internal until it's triggered. I mean, the irritability is in you already with Mars square Uranus, and someone coming and aspecting by opposition will make this aspect become external. Usually, it is "externalised" at - or to - that person that is triggering the aspect of course! They will be irritating people in your life.

Tsquares -
Her Sun (wide Mercury) is t-squaring your natal Mars/Venus square Uranus.. And, in turn, your Mars/Venus is t-squaring HER natal Uranus square her Sun (wide Merc).
Her Moon/Venus is triggering your natal t-square with Jupiter squaring both Pluto and you Moon/NN.
Her Saturn opposite your Moon and almost square your Jupiter makes an almost t-square there too. T-square are pretty full-on.

Your Moon/NN is basically sandwiched between both her Saturn and Pluto opposing (ouch!). This opposition is both reigniting natal t-squares (yours with Mo/Jup/Plu), AND creating new ones in the synastry (her Sa opp your Mo which is natally square your Jup). Lol.

I think these charts are formidable foes or friends. I think (speculate) that, the balance of forces neutralise each other ultimately, and these two charts (people) will choose to then combine forces and respect each other in the end, rather than run the risk of battle.

There is a nice talent triangle with the Neptunes and her Mercury (which is close to her Sun, of which is that nasty opposition to your Mars/Venus), and the two Plutos.

This lovely Neptune infusion will provide the doses of empathy needed to eventually reveal the similarities laying between both of you. It will foster the understanding that will overcome the animosity and competitive forces between you both.

Because too your Jupiters are so involved with each other, you will not help but sometimes find common ground and rise above it all.