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nezumi-chan
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posted October 23, 2019 03:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nezumi-chan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This year I met someone to whom I had great synastry (Moon conjunct Venus, their Sun and Venus in my 7H, my Sun, Mercury and Rising in their 7H, Sun contraparallel Rising double whammy, Sun/Moon midpoint conjunct NN and so on), good Draconic to Natal contacts too (Sun/Venus double whammy) and we had so many similarities, synchronicities and similar life experiences, it was like we mirroed each other and think the same way despite being opposite signs. There were many more synchronicities such as we started talking on certain day number then stopped, then we started talking again the same day number.

I got to think they were my twinflame.

But I couldn't be more wrong. The way they made me feel was so anxious and nervous, like I couldn't feel peace around them and I started to feel somehow trapped but didn't know how to end the relationship (Pluto square Moon, Saturn square Venus and Double Whammy Saturn opposite Mars in synastry).

Of course at the end, I ended up breaking up with them and something really weird happened then... the next day I left, the sun shone brightly in the sky and it was sunny all day, which was weird because it was winter. I interpreted it as a sign from the universe that I had made the right choice of getting out of that relationship.

And despite mirroing each other and all the weird synchronicities and similar life experiences between us, I didn't believe they were my twin flame anymore, there must be another explanation so after investigating further, today I found that we were... FALSE TWIN FLAMES! We have all the signs of being False Twin Flames:

-A false twin will make you anxious and jittery, a true twin will feel like family, like home.

-A false twin’s commitment will fade when challenges arise. A true twin’s will strengthen.

-Your relationship with a false twin will always be in limbo. Your relationship with a true twin will be clear, even if it’s not always easy.

-Your false twin will bring up intense feelings of doubt. Your true twin will bring you complete certainty.

-A false twin will always seem to be just a little out of reach, and you’ll have to hold on just a little too tight to keep things going. With a true twin, the relationship is natural and effortless.

-Your false twin will use excuses like “timing” and “wanting to be young and free” to avoid being more committed to you. (This was not the case with my previous relationship but I put it anyway because I've seen many people claiming that their "twin flame" have told them that)

-If the person you’re with seems to be a closed book, refuses to let their walls down, and remains a confusing, barricaded puzzle to you for a long time, then they may not be your real twin flame.

-You are constantly second or third place. You may never be prioritized by your false twin flame.

-When you meet your true twin flame, everything falls into place. You understand why you’re with them, you understand their role in your life, and you are confident that you will make it through hard times. With a false twin flame, you’ll curse the universe and ask why you have to experience all this pain, hurt, and fighting.

After reading about False Twin Flames everything started to make sense and I'm glad and thankful for having found out the true nature of my previous relationship. I also read that False Twin Flames are said to prepare you for your True Twin Flame sometimes.

Have you experienced anything similar?

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JoJo
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posted October 23, 2019 04:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JoJo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Love this! Yes, I have experienced this - more than once. False Flames are heartbreaking.

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posted October 24, 2019 01:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

It's not so simple and so black and white. But, first, most relationships are either lesson and/or karmic oriented. Which is why most relationships are temporary.

You can get involved in a true Twin Soul relationship, but if one of the people has a lot of trauma and fear, they can sabotage the relationship. And in cases like these, sometimes the personalities are on very different wavelengths, though their Souls are much more resonant.

I'm speaking from deep and painful experience here.

And sometimes the person/relationship has to be let go of, so that the one or both of the people can go through healing and/or raising their vibratory levels. And sometimes to do that, sometimes you have to be broken down first.

After a very painful separation with my Twin, I felt nudged to watch some Sign based, general Tarot readings on Youtube. It was ridiculous of how closely a number of the readings spoke to the situation holistically.

Essentially the separation was pre contracted for karmic and growth reasons for both involved. Both were fast vibratory from a Soul level, but from a personality level, one was fast vibratory (personality intune with the Soul and Spirit levels) and the other one more stuck in their slower vibratory energies (fear, materialism, selfishness, etc).

The slower vibratory personality would be working intensely on themselves for a period and would eventually get to a similar resonation with the other person and they would come back into each others lives, in a "new" like relationship that was much more fulfilling.

One even mentioned a trip for the person who did the separation. My Twin up and moved to another country far away very recently, a few months after the separation (not because of me). What she doesn't know, is that she is going to go through some hell of transits coming up in February, and I suspect that she will have to come back to the states because her life will fall apart over seas during this period, and she may need the financial and emotional help/support of her family.

The only "false Twins" are the false projections and beliefs that we create. It's not like the Universe or Guidance is scheming and "makes" "false twins" for us to get fooled by. It's lack of clear perception and insight on our parts, and wanting to believe in certain things.

And rather that we humans often mistake karmic connection and strong attachment for Love. Real and true Love is often something entirely different.

In my Twin's case, I sometimes made her feel uncomfortable, because I sometimes directly spoke to her shadow issues, in the hopes it would spark some conscious awareness. That combined with being at a rather unusually fast vibratory wavelength, I have a tendency to stir up people's shadows in an automatic way just by my very presence. In other words, in different ways, her shadow felt uncomfortable in relation to me. On a personality level, she is VERY stubborn (very strong combo of Taurus, Leo, Scorpio, and strong Uranus with background Aqua shading in). She is the type to resist change and looking at herself more objectively, because she has a very sensitive ego and so much attunement to fear. Much of the time, I felt like I was in a battle with her shadow/fear/ego.

I don't know what was going on in your case. It certainly could be that this person is not your Twin, but more of a karmic connection. The odds are certainly higher in that case in a general sense. But be wary of projecting your experience onto others in a universal way.

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posted October 24, 2019 02:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I read about other people's TF experiences and sorry to say but most of them sound more like BAD karmic relationships. Common complaints are their TFs playing hot/cold, doing the disappearing act, cutting them off, sending confusing signals, and worse, two-timing them!

Btw, Nezumi, I noticed you mentioned 'soulmates' at the end of your post. I thought TF and Soulmate are different?

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posted October 24, 2019 04:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nezumi-chan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion:
I don't know what was going on in your case. It certainly could be that this person is not your Twin, but more of a karmic connection. The odds are certainly higher in that case in a general sense. But be wary of projecting your experience onto others in a universal way.


I'm not projecting, I'm just telling my experience. I'm totally sure now they were not my Twin Flame, just a karmic relationship.
And believe me, once you change the chip and start seeing things as what they really are instead of falling into idealizations, you will be able to let go of what is toxic for you and hurts you.

@Hikaru29 I totally agree with you. And yes, soulmates and twinflames are different things, thank you for leting me know, I've already corrected it.

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posted October 24, 2019 08:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bismarck2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've never heard anything positive about twin flame relationships. He probably wasn't your twin flame, but you probably wouldn't enjoy being with your twin flame. There are many misconceptions out there being pushed about twin flames. Watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbPCjqPma3E

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posted October 25, 2019 02:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Twin flame is a rough ride too, mind

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posted October 25, 2019 02:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"When you meet your true twin flame, everything falls into place. You understand why you’re with them, you understand their role in your life, and you are confident that you will make it through hard times. With a false twin flame, you’ll curse the universe and ask why you have to experience all this pain, hurt, and fighting."

No!! this is just how it "should" be, but how it "should" be and how it might actually be is another topic altogether...

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posted October 25, 2019 05:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nezumi-chan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Bismarck2:
I've never heard anything positive about twin flame relationships. He probably wasn't your twin flame, but you probably wouldn't enjoy being with your twin flame. There are many misconceptions out there being pushed about twin flames. Watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbPCjqPma3E

Why wouldn't I enjoy it? As Jewel said in the video, Twin Flame relationships are complicated but not in the kind of Plutonic/Karmic relationships, Jewel herself said it in the video that it you have just feelings of painful yearning, they are not your Twin Flame. Jewel also said is very rare and that most people who claimed to have found their Twin Flame actually haven't, she said it clearly. Tbh Jewel just confirmed what I think. These Plutonic relationships she talked about are the False Twin Flames I talked about in my post. Karmic relationships are also mistaken with Twin Flames relationships, but they are not.

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posted October 25, 2019 05:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nezumi-chan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
"When you meet your true twin flame, everything falls into place. You understand why you’re with them, you understand their role in your life, and you are confident that you will make it through hard times. With a false twin flame, you’ll curse the universe and ask why you have to experience all this pain, hurt, and fighting."

No!! this is just how it "should" be, but how it "should" be and how it might actually be is another topic altogether...


I recommend that you watch the video @Bismarck2 posted, it's surprising how some people mistake False Twin Flames relationships for true ones. Believe me, it's better to stop making excuses to pursue a person who is running away from you or who is toxic for you. As we can see in the video, obssession, dependency and not being able to let go are not characteristics of twin flames relationships.

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posted October 25, 2019 10:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ Who are they really to say how it is actually supposed to be though? One of the twin can be a narcissist, absolutely, there are so many humans and so many possibilities.

If you can't get obsessed with a twin flame, your "other" half, who will you even be obsessed with?

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posted October 25, 2019 01:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Librapurr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
^ Who are they really to say how it is actually supposed to be though? One of the twin can be a narcissist, absolutely, there are so many humans and so many possibilities.

If you can't get obsessed with a twin flame, your "other" half, who will you even be obsessed with?



I support the top part of the message, but disagree with the bottom. Why would you need to be obsessed with somebody at all, you can just love them and be happy. You're probably deeply Plutonic/ Scorpio person)
But I kind of like when the right person is obsessed with me😉
I'm light Plutonic. I believe some people can't be in relationships because they expect it to be easy and they are not willing to put some work in it, and run when it gets some complicated.
I think the right idea Twin Flames are actually regular humans, and you cannot aspect them to be perfect. I barely saw people who can communicate and express feelings well.

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posted October 25, 2019 02:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nezumi-chan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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^ Who are they really to say how it is actually supposed to be though? One of the twin can be a narcissist, absolutely, there are so many humans and so many possibilities.

If you can't get obsessed with a twin flame, your "other" half, who will you even be obsessed with?


Well, Jewel is an astrologer with a lot of experience and she has said she's seen real Twin Flame connections and how it plays out so...

Your Twin Flame is supposed to be the other half of yourself and they are said to mirror you, so if they are narcissist then maybe you have some narcissist traits in yourself too (this is just an example).

As I said, it's not healthy to use Twin Flames as an excuse to pursue people who are running away from you, people who have cut you out of their lives.

I agree with @Librapurr in that regard. If they are really your other half then there's no need to obssession because you just know, you have the certainty because you know yourself and therefore you know the other person so you just let it flow. Remember Twin Flames push you to grow and move forward, and you can't grow if you're stuck in that obssession.

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posted October 25, 2019 03:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think you can grow even by being obsessed with them, like you can be obsessed with them, if its too tiring, you can go have a cup of coffee with someone else for some refreshment , and after having enuf breakfast you can go back to your favorite meal again no? I mean, your favorite meal, is afterall, your favorite meal .

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posted October 25, 2019 03:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I support the top part of the message, but disagree with the bottom. Why would you need to be obsessed with somebody at all, you can just love them and be happy. You're probably deeply Plutonic/ Scorpio person)
But I kind of like when the right person is obsessed with me😉
I'm light Plutonic. I believe some people can't be in relationships because they expect it to be easy and they are not willing to put some work in it, and run when it gets some complicated.
I think the right idea Twin Flames are actually regular humans, and you cannot aspect them to be perfect. I barely saw people who can communicate and express feelings well.


Yeah, I'm heavy Pluto, u must be a psychic ;p , and Libras always make me purrr and vice-versa, anything that does not make me obsessed ain't worth it in my books, sad pluto story unfortunately .

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posted October 27, 2019 01:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Librapurr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Yeah, I'm heavy Pluto, u must be a psychic ;p , and Libras always make me purrr and vice-versa, anything that does not make me obsessed ain't worth it in my books, sad pluto story unfortunately .

Lol) I hope you not gonna end up in one of these Criminal News stories Pluto story might be not sad if you don't want. I'm trying to learn how to use Pluto power in a positive way, to be obsesses not about people, but some useful stuff).

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posted October 27, 2019 08:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nezumi-chan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I find obssessing about people (specially the ones who have made you clear they don't return your feelings) unhealthy.

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posted October 28, 2019 12:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ I don't obsess about the roads untravelled, now travelled roads, thats a different story I wanna keep travelling it again and againn, my Gemini Moon and Moon/Uranus doesn't even get boreddd of ittt, its so weird, Pluto totally overrules their influence in my chart I figure.


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Lol) I hope you not gonna end up in one of these Criminal News stories Pluto story might be not sad if you don't want. I'm trying to learn how to use Pluto power in a positive way, to be obsesses not about people, but some useful stuff).

My Jupiter in 1st wouldn't want that kinda fame smh, getting caught peeping my 'interest' and her ex having sex from their bathtub? no thankss!!!

Stalking is better than obsessing

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posted October 28, 2019 11:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for moongaze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted October 29, 2019 02:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The very meaning of Twin Souls/Flames is that they use to be part of the same larger Spirit/Light Being, but split into two different, but always connected selves.

But most don´t understand what really is going on with (re)incarnations.

Rather than one Soul that lives a life and the body dies, they go to the nonphysical, they come back to the physical, rinse and repeat ad nauseum, rather our Spirit half creates many, many different Souls and projects them out to have lifetimes.

OCCASIONALLY some of these Souls have literal, direct reincarnations, but the average lifetime and incarnation is actually a newly formed/created Soul made specially for that particular life.

Here´s a little mind bender for those into EC´s work. In a very rare reading where the guidance lists off individuals helping for this reading, among the people listed besides Confucius, Lamech, etc, is Ra Ta. Wait, Ra Ta was said to be Edgar´s ¨past life¨. How could Ra Ta be helping out in a reading, if Edgar had literally been him in another life many prior lifetimes ago? Turns out that he and Edgar are two different, unique Souls that are part of the larger half of Spirit.

What this also means is that our half of Spirit can have a number of Souls in a particular space/time cycle and this is actually fairly common nowadays. My half of Spirit had at least two other Souls incarnated, that I am sure of, and actually met and befriended. One in a male body and one in a female body. They felt like a combo of close friends/siblings.

My partner and Twin Soul, has had dreams of her half of Spirit´s two other Soul selves going on in this same cycle.

The Twin that I met and talked about earlier, was not even one of those two, but a different person.

But the deeper point is, it is still very much related to the fundamental concept of two halves of a larger Spirit self that split a long time ago, but always remain connected. Now what their little Soul selves do with this connection can really vary, as Spirit´s give their Soul selves a certain amount of freewill in most cases most of the time. (unless it´s a very specific and unusual service job, and something the Creative Forces need help with).

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