posted October 29, 2019 07:25 PM            

Is the Mars/Saturn conjunction that detrimental? I’m not annoyed by this person, and I am attracted to them, but I just don’t feel any lust towards them.

I’m inside, they’re outside.

posted October 29, 2019 08:44 PM            

I'd say that your Sun is exalted in Aries and your Mars is in home in Aries. You like a very proud, masculine man with excellent leadership abilities and drive. No one tells this man what to do, he doesn't need permission for anything, he marches to the beat of his own drum, and he is the envy of other men and the ideal of women around him.

His Mars/Moon/Venus in Gemini could just be too childish for you even though these planets are in your 7th - even conjunct your DSC! It may be that one planet in Gemini would be enough to satisfy your 7th house, but that there is overload here. You need some gruff rugged masculinity to help balance this out.

Also doesn't help that he has Sun in Cancer with an ASC in Scorpio. These elements don't really ring a lot of bells for you as per your chart.

With his Saturn on YOUR Mars.. you might find his sense of authority "laughable", his judgement silly, he may just come off as a boy to you rather than a real man and you may not necessarily respect him deep down inside as your partner even though he's a fine person outside of the romantic context.

Your IC is in Aries, the ruler of your 5th is in Taurus, the ruler of your 7th is Aries, the ruler of your 8th is Virgo..

He has nothing in Taurus, Virgo, and only Saturn in Aries (it's fall).

The ruler of your ASC is Jupiter, opposite his Sun/Mercury, square your own Sun/Mercury. Fundamentally, who he is as a person just turns you off even though you know he's not a bad/boring/bland person. Elementally he's not your type.

It's just so crazy because of how he lights up your 7th/8th house! But I guess that 5th house missing doesn't making this a fun, sexy connection for you. Only his Pluto aspects your 5th house ruler, which may repel you rather than make you obsessed with him.

posted October 29, 2019 08:58 PM            

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Originally posted by Orange:
May be because your Venus and Mars, the relationship planets for love and sex do not aspect or connect with any personal planets of his, and the few outer planets aspects you have already in your own chart. Both your Venus and Mars are very dormant within this synastry with Mars receiving the coldish and dutiful Saturn only. Mercury is also very relationship sensitive in your chart but it squares his Mercury and Sun.
The composite is awesome, I must say, however. Those three closed up geometrical configurations in the composite chart can make this a closed up loop without easy ending, provided there was love and willingness between you two.

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Thank you for your reply, Orange! They’re always so well thought out and in depth.

posted October 29, 2019 09:35 PM            

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Originally posted by athenaia:
If I were to take a shot at this..

I'd say that your Sun is exalted in Aries and your Mars is in home in Aries. You like a very proud, masculine man with excellent leadership abilities and drive. No one tells this man what to do, he doesn't need permission for anything, he marches to the beat of his own drum, and he is the envy of other men and the ideal of women around him.

His Mars/Moon/Venus in Gemini could just be too childish for you even though these planets are in your 7th - even conjunct your DSC! It may be that one planet in Gemini would be another to satisfy your 7th house, but that there is overload here. You need some gruff rugged masculinity to help balance this out.

Also doesn't help that he has Sun in Cancer with an ASC in Scorpio. These elements don't really ring a lot of bells for you as per your chart.

With his Saturn on YOUR Mars.. you might find his sense of authority "laughable", his judgement silly, he may just come off as a boy to you rather than a real man and you may not necessarily respect him deep down inside as your partner even though he's a fine person outside of the romantic context.

Your IC is in Aries, the ruler of your 5th is in Taurus, the ruler of your 7th is Aries, the ruler of your 8th is Virgo..

He has nothing in Taurus, Virgo, and only Saturn in Aries (it's fall).

The ruler of your ASC is Jupiter, opposite his Sun/Mercury, square your own Sun/Mercury. Fundamentally, who he is as a person just turns you off even though you know he's not a bad/boring/bland person. Elementally he's not your type.

It's just so crazy because of how he lights up your 7th/8th house! But I guess that 5th house missing doesn't making this a fun, sexy connection for you. Only his Pluto aspects your 5th house ruler, which may repel you rather than make you obsessed with him.

But yeah the composite IS beautiful so that's certainly a head scratcher. I dated a guy a year back when I was on break from my last relationship, we had a stunningly beautiful composite but I wasn't really feeling it for a lot of similar synastric reasons as you.

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athenaia, thank you for your reply. You always hit the nail on the head.

I do like a partner who is in charge. I’m not sure if it’s because that’s what my Aries placements want or if it’s because that is the complete opposite of who I am. I’m not one to take charge, so I need someone who can step up and handle their own. Of course I don’t like people who trample all over others, but I like it when people know what they want and can communicate it in a kind but firm way.

I agree, I think he might have too much Gemini in him and not enough fire for me. He is almost fire void, it doesn’t really show physically, because he is very masculine but personality wise he is more of a logical, think it out type of person. He is more of a thinker than a doer.

He doesn’t really take charge, he leads but I don’t think it comes naturally to him.

posted October 29, 2019 11:04 PM            

So he matches your 7th but only partly, like 60 percent. Because you have to look at the ruler by sign, aspects and houses too. He does have the sun in cancer to match your mercury in the 4th though. But again, the Aries and Leo is missing and that’s important.
5th house is totally lacking though. He doesn’t have any Taurus, and the ruler Venus is also in Taurus, and it’s not making much aspects to his chart....
that’s the kicker.
You need 7th AND 5th (8th helps too).

Since Venus is love too, no matter what’s houses she’s ruling in your chart, it’s important Venus is aspected. Mars isn’t doing much either. It’s sextile his Venus but that’s a weak aspect, not gonna do much, especially with his Saturn on your mars.

Also, big disclaimer!
Composite is irrelevant in terms of feelings!!!!! SYNASTRY shows attraction/feelings/chemistry etc. Composite just shows the themes and dynamics between you within the relationship itself.
Example: sun conjunct Uranus. Unstable/hot and cold relationship. On and off or unconventional/open etc.
Moon conjunct Saturn; emotionally restrained, not open or effusive with the feelings towards each other.
Mercury square mars; you argue a lot.

Composite shows what’s happening when you interact, not how you’re feeling towards each other during any of these interactions lol.
You can have an on and off relationship. Argue a lot and feel like you can’t open up/express your feelings as easily and openly as you like yet you’re madly attracted and in love with him/her (synastry). Stop looking at the composite for feelings!!!

posted October 30, 2019 12:17 AM            

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Originally posted by LunaIscariot:
This guy is actually very scorpionic/Plutonian.
He has Scorpio rising with Pluto in the 1st, also 8th house stellium.
So he’s not nearly as lighthearted, open, bubbly and chatty as a normal Gemini stellium person would be.
Also, your 7th ruler including your mars like Athenia pointed out is in Aries. He doesn’t have any aries. It’s also conjunct the sun, he doesn’t have any Leo/5th house. This is an issue.
You definitely are looking for someone outgoing, confident, energetic, bossy and masculine. He’s probably more serious, intense, reserved like a Scorpio.

So he matches your 7th but only partly, like 60 percent. Because you have to look at the ruler by sign, aspects and houses too. He does have the sun in cancer to match your mercury in the 4th though. But again, the Aries and Leo is missing and that’s important.
5th house is totally lacking though. He doesn’t have any Taurus, and the ruler Venus is also in Taurus, and it’s not making much aspects to his chart....
that’s the kicker.
You need 7th AND 5th (8th helps too).

Since Venus is love too, no matter what’s houses she’s ruling in your chart, it’s important Venus is aspected. Mars isn’t doing much either. It’s sextile his Venus but that’s a weak aspect, not gonna do much, especially with his Saturn on your mars.

Also, big disclaimer!
Composite is irrelevant in terms of feelings!!!!! SYNASTRY shows attraction/feelings/chemistry etc. Composite just shows the themes and dynamics between you within the relationship itself.
Example: sun conjunct Uranus. Unstable/hot and cold relationship. On and off or unconventional/open etc.
Moon conjunct Saturn; emotionally restrained, not open or effusive with the feelings towards each other.
Mercury square mars; you argue a lot.

Composite shows what’s happening when you interact, not how you’re feeling towards each other during any of these interactions lol.
You can have an on and off relationship. Argue a lot and feel like you can’t open up/express your feelings as easily and openly as you like yet you’re madly attracted and in love with him/her (synastry). Stop looking at the composite for feelings!!!

My suggestion is find someone with some Aries, Leo, Taurus plus some Gemini 👍 or planets in the 1st, 5th, 2nd and 3rd house.

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Thank you, for your reply LunaIscariot! You definitely have an knack for this.

posted October 30, 2019 11:10 AM            

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Originally posted by LaceyLeigh:
He is my type physically, very masculine but the more I think of this, he just doesn’t seem to match what I am looking for personality wise. He’s a lot more laid back than what I’m used to, almost passive at times, I guess. I was definitely attracted to his looks, which might be because of his Venus conjunct my descendant, but that doesn’t seem to be enough for me. It’s just too soon in the relationship to be feeling like this.

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To kind of bring the "real life" back into this, I think what matters most is how you really feel about him everyday and how you envision your life going forward with him in it (instead of looking to astrology to tell you how you should be feeling).

Sometimes comfort isn't a bad thing. Passion is important, sure, but it does fade over time, regardless of the strength of the relationship. Can you really rely on this man? Will he fight for you/the relationship? Can your relationship weather the inevitable storms that life brings? Does he love you, respect you, and have your best interests at heart? Is he kind and respectful? Can you see him as your husband or the father of your children (if you want them)? I think you have to do that soul-searching and really evaluate the big picture. Finding someone you have a genuine connection with is hard to find, and so to give that up because you're not burning up the sheets may be short-sighted. Remember, big passion often comes at a price...like drama, tension or conflict in some form, unless you're comfortable with that. It depends what is most important to you here.

I was in your shoes once, with a relationship many years ago. Our relationship was as comfortable as a pair of old slippers but it wasn't doing it for me at that time. Having experienced a couple tumultuous relationships since, I now respect the connection I had with him much more and reflect on it with fondness.

posted October 30, 2019 12:44 PM            

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Originally posted by margym0o:
To kind of bring the "real life" back into this, I think what matters most is how you really feel about him everyday and how you envision your life going forward with him in it (instead of looking to astrology to tell you how you should be feeling).

Sometimes comfort isn't a bad thing. Passion is important, sure, but it does fade over time, regardless of the strength of the relationship. Can you really rely on this man? Will he fight for you/the relationship? Can your relationship weather the inevitable storms that life brings? Does he love you, respect you, and have your best interests at heart? Is he kind and respectful? Can you see him as your husband or the father of your children (if you want them)? I think you have to do that soul-searching and really evaluate the big picture. Finding someone you have a genuine connection with is hard to find, and so to give that up because you're not burning up the sheets may be short-sighted. Remember, big passion often comes at a price...like drama, tension or conflict in some form, unless you're comfortable with that. It depends what is most important to you here.

I was in your shoes once, with a relationship many years ago. Our relationship was as comfortable as a pair of old slippers but it wasn't doing it for me at that time. Having experienced a couple tumultuous relationships since, I now respect the connection I had with him much more and reflect on it with fondness.

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Thank you, margym0o for trying to knock some sense into me. I truly appreciate it.

He is all of those things and more. A great man and a true king. You’re right, we are often sold a dream on how relationships should be, so now that I’ve found something that is the complete opposite I think I might be afraid. It just feels like something isn’t right. I will definitely have to reflect on where to go from here.

posted October 31, 2019 01:36 PM            

In my experience, Saturn conjunct Mars doesn't necessarily kill passion. I've this aspect with my guy and sexual attraction is super intense. Mars rules his 5th and Saturn rules my 8th. My 8th ruler also square his 8th ruler and we have other sexual aspects. I also know 2 married couples with Saturn square Mars and for one of the couples, his Mars rules his 5th house squares her Sun/Saturn (Sun rules her 5th). So look at house rulers rather than judging this aspect.

posted October 31, 2019 08:45 PM            

Also, if you were with him, there would be an awful theme of pain---Chiron/NN

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posted November 02, 2019 03:08 AM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
He does match your r/s type with his stellium in Gemini conjunct your DSC which also sextile your DSC ruler. In addition, your DSC ruler is activated through aspecting his Sun/Mercury/Jupiter (Mercury being his 8th ruler and Sun his MC ruler). Also, he has Moon-Mars and you have Sun-Mars (lock-and-key aspects). You both have Sun-Mercury (mirror aspects)... as you said in your last post, he's all those described by margym0o and more, isn't it?

In my experience, Saturn conjunct Mars doesn't necessarily kill passion. I've this aspect with my guy and sexual attraction is super intense. Mars rules his 5th and Saturn rules my 8th. My 8th ruler also square his 8th ruler and we have other sexual aspects. I also know 2 married couples with Saturn square Mars and for one of the couples, his Mars rules his 5th house squares her Sun/Saturn (Sun rules her 5th). So look at house rulers rather than judging this aspect.

Your 5th ruler is barely aspecting his planets except a trine to his Neptune/Uranus. He also has nothing in Taurus to match your 5th so you feel that he's not sweeping you off your feet. You do have 5th-8th rulers trine and 5th-5th rulers sextile but the soft aspects may not be enough to do it for you. You also have your Mars trine his Pluto square his Jupiter sextile his Uranus but again this may not be enough to create sparks due to a lack of activity in your 5th.

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posted November 02, 2019 03:10 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Saturn/Mars is classic for cooling passion

Also, if you were with him, there would be an awful theme of pain---Chiron/NN

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posted November 02, 2019 05:21 AM            

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Originally posted by LaceyLeigh:
Thank you, Hikaru I really appreciate your help. He is objectively almost perfect to me, but it sometimes feels like something is missing between us. I care about him a lot, but I don’t want to look back in a few years from wondering if I made the wrong move. I will have to think long and hard about this.

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posted November 17, 2019 09:07 AM            

As someone else has already pointed out, I also see the culprit in your 5th house needs not really being aspected i.e. not matched by this guy. I remember my exboyfriend when I was at University not matching my 5th house at all. Put no planets in my 5th house, my 5th house ruler was basically unaspected and he didnt match the 5th house sign in other ways either. Although he put his mars into my 8th house and my mars conjuncted his ascendant (plus we had venus conjunct mars in synastry and lots of pluto aspects)..it just wasnt enough to ever have that 'falling in love' feeling. He was such a good guy, but there was never that initial giddy 'in love' feeling as with other men.

posted November 17, 2019 12:04 PM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
Different people need different key ingredients in a relationship. You need to think about what matters most to you.

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posted November 17, 2019 12:06 PM            

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Originally posted by TaurusVenusGirl:
I had Mars conjunct Saturn with someone and there was no cooling effect on my side. I was the Saturn. Mind you we also had Mars conjunct Mars and made me feel A LOT of passion! So I guess both our Mars took away the effect of Saturn entirely! 🔥🔥🔥

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posted November 17, 2019 03:00 PM            

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Originally posted by anska5:
I also know several couples with strong mars-saturn aspects and while there may have been some blockage initially to making the relationship physcial, there definitely didnt seem to be a lack of passion. I remember a friend mentioning that she (as the mars person) felt initially a bit inhibited sexually/letting go, but that's not the same as lack of passion.

As someone else has already pointed out, I also see the culprit in your 5th house needs not really being aspected i.e. not matched by this guy. I remember my exboyfriend when I was at University not matching my 5th house at all. Put no planets in my 5th house, my 5th house ruler was basically unaspected and he didnt match the 5th house sign in other ways either. Although he put his mars into my 8th house and my mars conjuncted his ascendant (plus we had venus conjunct mars in synastry and lots of pluto aspects)..it just wasnt enough to ever have that 'falling in love' feeling. He was such a good guy, but there was never that initial giddy 'in love' feeling as with other men.

Edit: I just remember that he had a mars in aquarius and I have uranus in 5th house, but that probably was still too indirect/not strong enough a correlation given that my 5th house ruler was literally unaspected.

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posted November 20, 2019 10:59 AM            

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Originally posted by LaceyLeigh:
I like this person and I feel comfortable with them, but we’ve been seeing each other for less than a year and there is just no spark on my side. Any idea why this might be?

Is the Mars/Saturn conjunction that detrimental? I’m not annoyed by this person, and I am attracted to them, but I just dont feel any lust towards them

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Synastry doesn't matter much to me. I tend to look at the individual chart.

Are you tough to impress?Looking at your Sat conj Ic from the 3rd,you may be hard to crack emotionally.Add to that Ven-Plu opp in 6th & Moon in Virg/9th .

Ironically, he is similar. Venus/Moon in 8th,Ic in Aqua and Sat in 5th