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ant23
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posted November 11, 2019 01:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ant23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted November 11, 2019 04:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Librapurr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I’ll try to give a brief review. The guy should be really into work, and probably, good at it with his stellium in 6th house in Capricorn.
And his Mars sextile your Venus, it’s an indicator of attraction. Your Mars sq his Venus - probably, more aggressive attraction from your side here. There is sexual attraction, you don’t need moon for it) But Plutonic relationship is not superficial.
In addition to the question 5: His Jupiter in your 8 house (related to sexual things), and Jupiter expands what it touches.

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posted November 11, 2019 04:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ant23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Librapurr,
thank you for your reply.
he texted again today...

Funny on the work thing because you would expect him to but he is actually not working in the conventional way, but he does own his own thing.

His venus is not trine my mars, is sextile i believe if you are referring to the synastry.

I never felt anything like it and i am a native mars in scorpio...

*edit*

as for my agressivness yes totally!

I really want to understand his side of his venus sqyaring my mars. He has it natally as well.

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posted November 11, 2019 04:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Librapurr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ant23:
Hi Librapurr,
thank you for your reply.
he texted again today...

Funny on the work thing because you would expect him to but he is actually not working in the conventional way, but he does own his own thing.

His venus is not trine my mars, is sextile i believe if you are referring to the synastry.

I never felt anything like it and i am a native mars in scorpio...

*edit*

as for my agressivness yes totally!

I really want to understand his side of his venus sqyaring my mars. He has it natally as well.



Yes, sorry, sextile, I meant to correct it. Venus sq Mars could be better here because he has it natally, it’s more natural for him. I heard it’s a good sign when it mirrors. I hope more experience folks would look at it.
I don’t know what kind of things he owns and does, but often it requires you to be more ambitious and devoted to work than a traditional job. Like an aspiring entrepreneurs and a lot of side things doer, I see misconceptions and judgments like if you don’t do traditional 8 to 5 work - you’re not hardworking.

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posted November 11, 2019 05:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ant23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No worries ^_^

I totally agree with you it needs more dedication.
And I see it in him and i admire him for it.

I hope it is true the mirroring aspects.
He has also intercepted sag/gemini and my sun moon mercury conjunction falls there as well my IC..


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posted November 12, 2019 04:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi ant23
His birth time is correct, right? If not most of what I said below will not be relevant.

IME Capricorns can come across reserved until they know you better. Also, his air Moon opposite Uranus/Saturn can come across rather "cool". In fact, he has lotsa air in his chart - Gemini Moon in 11H opp Uranus, Aqua Venus, Sun/Mercury in 6H... so I'm seeing someone who's more in tuned with his mind than his emotions. Does he also have a lot of female friends? Haha..

I'm not surprised he's doing his own stuff with the Neptunian conjunctions. I know a guy with Capricorn stellium in 12H and he does his own work too - managing events. And with Uranus in 5th and 11H Gemini Moon... is your guy in creative work or probably very idealistic in his career pursuit?

In romance & partnerships he likes someone Uranian (both 7th & 8th rulers in Aqua + Moon in 11th). He cannot stand a relationship that's restrictive and/or filled with mundane. But at the same time, he's very intense and passionate in love and seeks certain structure and stability in his relationships. He also likes someone who encompasses Martian & Venusian energies.

What I see is you're meeting his 5th more than his 7th & 8th with your Scorpio/Sag planets but you've nothing in Aqua/11th house or have any planetary overlays in his 7th/8th/11th houses. His Uranus is also barely aspecting your planets.

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posted November 12, 2019 06:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ant23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
Hi ant23
His birth time is correct, right? If not most of what I said below will not be relevant.

IME Capricorns can come across reserved until they know you better. Also, his air Moon opposite Uranus/Saturn can come across rather "cool". In fact, he has lotsa air in his chart - Gemini Moon in 11H opp Uranus, Aqua Venus, Sun/Mercury in 6H... so I'm seeing someone who's more in tuned with his mind than his emotions. Does he also have a lot of female friends? Haha..

I'm not surprised he's doing his own stuff with the Neptunian conjunctions. I know a guy with Capricorn stellium in 12H and he does his own work too - managing events. And with Uranus in 5th and 11H Gemini Moon... is your guy in creative work or probably very idealistic in his career pursuit?

In romance & partnerships he likes someone Uranian (both 7th & 8th rulers in Aqua + Moon in 11th). He cannot stand a relationship that's restrictive and/or filled with mundane. But at the same time, he's very intense and passionate in love and seeks certain structure and stability in his relationships. He also likes someone who encompasses Martian & Venusian energies.

What I see is you're meeting his 5th more than his 7th & 8th with your Scorpio/Sag planets but you've nothing in Aqua/11th house or have any planetary overlays in his 7th/8th/11th houses. His Uranus is also barely aspecting your planets.


Hi Hikaru,

thank you for your reply! ^_^

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What I see is you're meeting his 5th more than his 7th & 8th with your Scorpio/Sag planets but you've nothing in Aqua/11th house or have any planetary overlays in his 7th/8th/11th houses. His Uranus is also barely aspecting your planets.

Are you referring to the potential of being a plutonian relationship? If, yes I am focusing more on the pluto aspects in our synastry.

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creative work or probably very idealistic in his career pursuit?
He is into investment so he feels that there is no need for him to work, so he keeps dropping "common" professional pursuits. Also he doesn't find meaning into it. He is very entrepreneurial.

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His birth time is correct, right?

He said 6pm or 6am, but the 6am is unlikely. He is a Sag rising if the 6am the actual one. I am trying to focus more on the aspects at the moment. On the other hand if the 6am was correct his venus would be in the 2nd house and could indicate his investment gains?

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posted November 12, 2019 08:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ 6am and 6pm is so different! Angles, houses, Moon/Vertex are all not accurate then. You asked in your 2nd qn whether he's into you. You can't tell unless you know how you're activating his angles/houses. I don't know what you mean by "potential of being a plutonian relationship"? And what do you wanna know about your Pluto aspects? Whether the aspects are good for the relationship or not?

Pluto conjunct Mars, square Venus will cause plutonic tendencies although I personally dislike the square to Venus. It often results in selfishness and manipulation more than genuine love IME. Since he has the same aspect in natal he may like it though.

Btw, your composite Moon lacks positive aspects and that's not good, but I will leave composite interpretation to expert Todd. Haha..

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posted November 12, 2019 08:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ant23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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6am and 6pm is so different! Angles, houses, Moon/Vertex are all not accurate then.
Yes i totally agree with you...

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I don't know what you mean by "potential of being a plutonian relationship"? And what do you wanna know about your Pluto aspects? Whether the aspects are good for the relationship or not?

Pluto conjunct Mars, square Venus will cause plutonic tendencies although I personally dislike the square to Venus. It often results in selfishness and manipulation more than genuine love IME. Since he has the same aspect in natal he may like it though.


Yes, I am referring to our pluto/venus/ mars aspects.

Thank you Hikaru once again!
I am a bit scattered with how i feel because the shift to his behaviour came abruptly and now i am nitpicking everything..

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posted November 12, 2019 09:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for margym0o     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ant23:
I am a bit scattered with how i feel because the shift to his behaviour came abruptly and now i am nitpicking everything..


I don't think you need astrology right now, it sounds like it's too early. The rules of dating are finite and simple. If he was really into you, you would know. He would be pursuing you, and if he's not an aggressor than he would certainly be going out of his way to keep the lines of communication open so as not to risk losing you. If he was busy with work or distracted for some other reason, he would surely tell you. If he's playing the "cool guy" card and ignoring you on purpose, then you don't need someone like that wasting your time anyway. No amount of analyzing can fix a f*ckboy.

If you feel as though he's starting to distance himself then take it for what it is and start bracing yourself for the inevitable. It's only been 3 dates so perhaps you can refocus your attention on someone else.

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posted November 12, 2019 05:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
a composite with ceres,vertex,pallas,nessus,orcus,eros(433),psyche(16),true Lilith(h130eris,sedna

would be helpful

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posted November 12, 2019 05:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ant23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by todd:
a composite with ceres,vertex,pallas,nessus,orcus,eros(433),psyche(16),true Lilith(h130eris,sedna

would be helpful

todd


Hi todd!

6pm composite

6am composite

Thank you as always!

All of you, for the advices

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posted November 13, 2019 05:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hi ant23

the first thin I noticed was the stellium of psyche/Uranus/mercury/eros/Saturn. this gives a very interesting and engaging mental rapport with romantic innuendos. this shows you both to be very intelligent and have many similarities in thought especial with regard to the future and science in general.

Saturn here would show his shyness .the sun/Neptune midpoint is also conjunct this stellium. I have found that a strong Neptune in internet relationships usually shows some sort of misrepresentation. not necessarily deceptive but usually in person they are not exactly as self described.

Venus is trine to Jupiter and sextile to the stellium. this makes me thing that his withdrawal might be because he is not interested in a serious relationship but with Venus strong ,you might be thinking about something serious.


pluto is square to orcus and the midpoint is conjunct to nessus and nessus is square the sun...these are all inhibited impulses. so it might be that his shyness is making him back off.

the Venus/pluto midpoint is conjunct to the sun also. it looks to me as if he has quite a few emotional issues and is not in a place where he can sustain a relationship.

the mental connection is exceptional so you might just be content with a relationship of your minds and see if this will evolve into a full emotional relationship.
todd


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posted November 13, 2019 07:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ant23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How do you do it really? O_O I'm speechless
This is so spot on :
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this gives a very interesting and engaging mental rapport with romantic innuendos.

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I have found that a strong Neptune in internet relationships usually shows some sort of misrepresentation.

that is exactly the thing that keeps me so confused! He is very talkative and playful via text and f2f he is not at all..

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the mental connection is exceptional so you might just be content with a relationship of your minds and see if this will evolve into a full emotional relationship.

I really appreciate this advice. How I feel about this connection is what makes me come so "obsessed" about it. It feels like I'm short of a teacher/ here to help short of way...

Thanks again Todd, you never fail really.

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