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Franco
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posted November 19, 2019 04:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Franco     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm curious, apparently the only thing I attract are women who have venus / pluto, be it conjunction, opp and square. Never trine or sextile.

This pattern is repeated both in my exs and with the women with whom I usually have sex. It is a pattern that stands out a lot because I do not have friendships with women, so when I have contact it is usually due to sexual relations or encounters.

I am a scorpio with stellium in it (but I am dominant saturn).

Is my Venus in Scorpio? Or are their Venus / Pluto that attract me?

thanks!

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Randall
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posted November 19, 2019 06:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting. Every single time?

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GalacticCoreExplosion
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posted November 21, 2019 01:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm curious why no friendships with women?

That's hard for me to understand when the huge majority of my friends are women (and platonically so).

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Franco
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posted November 22, 2019 07:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Franco     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion:
I'm curious why no friendships with women?

That's hard for me to understand when the huge majority of my friends are women (and platonically so).


I don't know, I just don't have friendships with women, it's not because I don't want to ... it just doesn't happen, I have a very distant personality and of little interest, there's only approach when there's interest. I have moon square mars (wide orb) I understand that this aspect tends to make a man have no affinity with women.

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sassaqua
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posted November 23, 2019 05:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sassaqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Franco -

"I have moon square mars (wide orb) I understand that this aspect tends to make a man have no affinity with women"

Ooooohh.. do tell us more? Maybe a new thread?

When it's brought up (any configuration that is traditionally issues with women), mostly men go on the defensive, and the discussion derails into the affirmative: how they do have affinity.

It would be good to learn the other perspective - how it is when men don't have affinity (why and how does it feel, etc).

Interesting!

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GalacticCoreExplosion
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posted November 25, 2019 01:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for the reply Franco.

I suppose the obvious question would be, how is the relationship with the mother figure in your life? And how does that reflect in your chart in connection with the Moon etc (besides the Moon Mars square)?

The relationship with my Mom was complex. All in all, it was a pretty good and close relationship. She was also my first spiritual teacher (mostly by positive example) and a friend. We happen to shared the same b-day. There was always a sense of mutual cosmic closeness.

But, she got romantically involved with a psychopath (not consciously knowing it) when I was about 8 or 9, and that wasn't the easiest experience (and there was probably some unconscious anger and resentment because of this). Then she discovered she had cancer when I was 16, miraculously pulled through after surgery and chemo and was healthy for a couple years or so, then it came back and she got sick pretty quick and died a couple months after I turned 20.

I have Libra Moon conjunct Virgo Saturn (faster moving ruler of Sun, Mercury, Venus, 6th, and 7th) in 2nd, and Virgo Saturn is square Sag Neptune and sextile Scorp Uranus. Venus is in Aquarius in the 7th (only aspects outer planets). Scorp IC with Scorp Uranus in the 4th, and Virgo Mars conjunct Virgo Jupiter.

You could say that my relationship with my Mom was deep, intense, with a lot of pain but also joy and comfort, and a definite strong spiritual connection. This definitely has had an influence on my connection with women in general. I've come to realize that unconsciously I tend to expect bittersweet, Uranian extremist experiences with women (and that has been a pattern for the most part).

When I was younger, I put women overly on a pedestal (because I had put her on a pedestal). I realized that was limiting though, and have come to realize that women also very much have ego, they just tend to express/channel it differently. I do very much respect and vibe with the greater openness to the unseen and hidden sides of life.

As a male that is interested in astrology (which is somewhat uncommon), I'm somewhat surprised you haven't found friendship connections with women based on that at least. It would seem like a good avenue for connection, or at least discussion.

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Franco
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posted November 25, 2019 02:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Franco     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In the first instance, the data you provide is very interesting .

I'm so sorry about your mother. I can relate to my mother entering the spiritual world (actually esotericism) and then I enter spirituality. The relationship with my mother is incredibly great, I love her very much, however, I have made her suffer too much with my teenage behavior, but she never denied me affection, I was always like a person very spoiled by my mother, even in the worst moments. . He is a person with a very open mind and will never deny me anything while he is happy. The question is that I am a cold person, cynical in some moments of my life, shyness and low self-esteem (Saturn in the conjunction Capricorn ASC) and also, calm, I do not tell anything about my life (mercury in conjunction with Pluto in Scorpio). Therefore, gathering all these characteristics was always very difficult to relate. But beyond this, I always had women around me, in high school, for example, we were 7 men and 30 women, I remember that the situation required you to interact with women, but I was never interested in establishing friendships, I even remember without striving to Making friends and demonstrating very little have chosen me as a better classmate, so I am not a monster haha ​​(I have a moon in pisces that makes me very helpful with people).

But when I'm with a girlfriend everything changes. I am the most passionate and affectionate person, maybe forgetting everything and getting into the relationship.

Anyway, I think that the woman who knows me will see me very distant and cold, so it is very likely that she does not intend to create a relationship of friendship with me, and I understand it but it does not affect me at all, I do not see the woman as an object, I even have a lot of respect for them but apparently I need a loop of Scorpio characteristics (passion, loyalty, sensuality, depth etc) for me to turn on.

I have no friends of astrology or spirituality, since I do not discuss these issues with people. My best friend was an ex-girlfriend and it was with the only person who opened me with these types of knowledge, she really valued him, we had the same sun, moon and rising.


PS: there is a very important fact, maybe here there something. All my ex-girlfriends, had absent parents, whether divorced, deceased or abandoned by their father) and the other fact is that I only attract women younger than me, something that is 5 years apart and extends.

Sorry for my bad English (I use a translator) too, I hope this answer responds to @Sassaqua too.


For more details, I attach my Natal chart: https://imgur.com/a/2Ej96Bl

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GalacticCoreExplosion
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posted November 25, 2019 06:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sometimes when I look at charts I pick up on non astrological, extra information.

When looking at your chart Franco, I got a sense that one of your Soul aspects that is strong in your psyche, is a monk type lifetime--some sort of fraternal, spiritual or religious based, disciplined life, where you spent a lot of time in solitude, in quietude, and when you did interact with others it was almost solely with other males.

I also get the sense that you experienced intense persecution in that life.

I think if this is objectively true, it explains well your greater comfort with men, or maybe even more so solitude, as well as the fear of opening up to others in general as regards your deeper beliefs and perceptions.

But, you are connected to a male body, and so there is that procreative drive and energy to deal with, and since you are not redirecting that energy as much as you or your other Soul self did in that other life, there is a need to connect at least sexually with women.

I feel like romance though, is meant to be an avenue of transformation and major positive change for you--particularly in the sense of opening up your heart more in general. Your 5th House ruler, is in Scorpio and very closely conjunct the Sun. The Sun is one of the major symbols of the heart, along with Venus and Leo. But they correspond to different "levels" of the heart. The Sun is the higher, spiritual heart. It's that connection between the thymus gland (Venus), and the "Crown", or rather pituitary gland (White Light, does not correspond to any one astrological symbol), and basically it represents the personal heart (thymus-Venus) becoming more and more infused with Divine, universal Love of the Crown (Pituitary), to blend and reveal the Golden Light of the awakened Initiate.

(I had an interesting dream some years back, where a wise knowing or voice told me, "It is time to don the golden robes". Basically it was talking about this process of becoming the awakened Initiate, and that golden light would be starting to show up in my aura more and more).

Basically opening up your heart in general and specifically for you has to do a lot with trust and overcoming fear. Part of that is related to that lifetime of persecution at the hands of others.

As to attraction with women with Venus-Pluto, like tends to attract, beget, and like Like. Women with Venus-Pluto connections that are otherwise highlighted in their charts also often have major trust and openness issues as well, sometimes around fear of abandonment, fear of disappointment, frightening experiences of becoming lost in another, over obsession with a love interest, etc.

It's natural for you and people in general to attract and be attracted to those with similar issues and dynamics going on within them. Sometimes we attract that, or those of the opposite, depending. If you do happen to run into a woman with a very open heart, I would suggest holding to her and letting her to help resonate your heart in that direction.

I'm not very intune/attuned of late, so please take what I say with a healthy grain or two of salt. (I'm in a slower vibratory phase/cycle of life right now, due to a combo of lack of meditation, having to focus on survival, outer testing/stress, etc).

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Franco
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posted November 26, 2019 06:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Franco     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, I was surprised by your answer .. since I am in a phase of spiritual awakening and this from past lives is very interesting.

Luckily this awakening (which by the way, it all started with a wise voice just like you after a deep meditation) caused me to find myself, detect the ego and decrease it, which is a breakthrough since I can see my different facets, personalities and not act by instinct, but consciously of things.

So your answer is no accident. Lately I am attracting these types of answers and spiritual people.

Thank you so much for everything!

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posted November 26, 2019 07:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That is very awesome to hear Franco, and you're very welcome.

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sassaqua
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posted November 27, 2019 02:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sassaqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sassaqua is getting more popcorn..

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Randall
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posted December 04, 2019 06:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump!

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sassaqua
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posted December 05, 2019 04:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sassaqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Don't be shy now

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