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StoneMoon
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posted November 28, 2019 04:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StoneMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here you go Sass- I trust you with it. This is our composite.

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sassaqua
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posted November 28, 2019 05:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sassaqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Stonemoon!

I will look at the natals to the composite. In particular, how your natals may relieve some of those composite squares (eg, your Mars and Venus sextile to that square and adding weight to the already positioned Virgo Mars).

Or maybe, how the composite Juno adds relief to his natal and the composite Moon squaring his Chiron.

Chiron seems to play a prominent role. As is the case mostly with our generation.

Wow.. I'm remembering now how complex this was when we first looked at it a year or so ago. It's still complex! It will take me some time to check it again.

Incidentally, I was wondering too about your Nemesis and Dejanera.. Just saying (no pressure).

This composite goes to show how different relationships are. People relate, and have relationships for a range of reasons beyond the traditional systematic astrological theoretical ideals (eg: 5, 7, 8 houses, Mars/Venus etc.).

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posted November 28, 2019 05:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StoneMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why Nemesis and Dejaneira? Or do you mean Nessus? Either way, why those?

I told you, the composite is nothing. The relationship is definitely something.

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posted November 28, 2019 05:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StoneMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
here is the Davison:

I feel like this one is more accurate for the feeling invoked between us. Which is funny bcs I have always felt the composite chart more than the Davison, but not with him.


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sassaqua
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posted November 28, 2019 05:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sassaqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How fascinating to all.

No, I'm just on a Nemesis and Dejaneira trip atm.

See my edits in the above post

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StoneMoon
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posted November 28, 2019 05:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StoneMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well when you have time be sure to catch me up on your life! Last we left you were still debating which bachelor to see. And of course I want to hear about the one who was quite forward/off-putting/but ever returning.

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sassaqua
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posted November 29, 2019 01:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sassaqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not much going on Stonemoon.

I have resumed dating after a pretty busy year. Those guys disappeared. I remain friends with one, though we haven't caught up much (he found out that he had a teenage daughter and has been attending to that, lol).

I have a 2nd date coming up this week with a Capricorn. That's about it really!

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posted December 04, 2019 06:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump!

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StoneMoon
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posted January 06, 2020 07:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StoneMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thought I would add the Davison for you. I feel like this is more representative of the relationship than the composite, interestingly enough. I think the connections with Valentine and Amor linked in to the Sun, Moon, and Jupiter are key. In each of our natals and Synastry we have Sun, Moon and Jupiter links as well.

I am sure the composite still applies, but the Davison for the first time in my experience actually feels right too.

[img]https://i.imgur.com/3mFFAlA.png[/img]

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sassaqua
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posted January 06, 2020 08:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sassaqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey hey... StoneMoon and for NY

I was thinking about the whole *analysing relationship charts* thing and how it can get in the way and is annoying/destructive.

I must point out, something that is enjoyed from the experience and is not annoying/destructive is: getting into other people minds here on LL and how they do astrology. That's the fun bit.

I always enjoyed your methods SM. They were deep, interesting, and fun

Anyhow... I'm good to take a new look if you want. But, can I request if not a hassle:
Natals
Synastry
Comp and Davison
All with grids for sure

We have all of that somewhere in the belly of LL threads. But I cannot find it.

This is why I haven't responded - I need whole pic

[All of the above and with progressed Natals and Comps are fun to look at too if you ever do it (sure you do!). Though it is quite a lot of work, hey.]

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posted January 07, 2020 07:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StoneMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
me:

him:

synastry:

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StoneMoon
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posted January 07, 2020 07:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StoneMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
composite:

davison:

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StoneMoon
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posted January 07, 2020 08:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StoneMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Sass! Happy NY to you as well. I find it interesting how differently people act out their charts than we might suppose. I took a large part of the year off from astrology (at least with him) just to experience and enjoy it. I am glad I did!

It was good to step away but I am happy to come back to it. I would love to hear about you, and I know you told me things were quieter for you. Still fun to hear about you though!

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posted January 16, 2020 10:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sassaqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Stonemoon.. so sorry.. I haven't forgotten I just need a good clear time to get stuck into this.

I'm checking periodically and will write soon

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posted January 21, 2020 12:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StoneMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No worries Sass! I understand the time it takes to sink in, and I also operate on a "it will happen if and when it should happen" scale now with this.

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posted January 27, 2020 07:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sassaqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for your understanding lovely. It is rich content isn't it

Apologies in advance.. I tend to look at things from a deficit position and build on improvement strategies. I think it’s my MC Virgo Pluto. I am not meaning to sound negative!

And also please keep in mind I'm not very good at this

There is of course more - and more to follow. But I couldn’t keep it waiting any longer. I hope I haven’t repeated myself! It’s been a long time StoneMoon!

Ok.. here goes first bits ....

He is similar to you with the Moon/Sun opp - but: he is Uranian and you are Plutonian (Moon aspects); a question ensues in astrology if these two ever understand each other (I often find myself wondering when I encounter Pluto-types as an Uranian).

So his Uranus square to Moon can make him edgy emotionally.. afraid of intimacy, or closeness, as conditioned through care-giver rapport (Moon).

The Moon opposite the Sun deems a wavering between these two identity lights: on one hand he can be cold and authoritarian, and perhaps even border on cruel (Sun conjunct Saturn).
On the other, emotionally detached and relatively dismissive of emotions entirely (Moon square Uranus).

He likes to get on with his projects (Saturn/Sun conjunct; Sun trine Jupiter). And he would like an equal in this respect: someone who is also enterprising and ambitious (Jupiter/Juno), or/and an authoritarian in their field denoting a level of social status (trine Saturn/Sun). He would be attracted to power-focused, tough and resilient (square Pluto) individuals, as this is someone he would respect. Or/and who is in some manner "intense" when it comes to relating, and this is probably a feature he enjoys in you (with your Moon square Pluto).

He also expects/hopes them to be more communicative, extroverted, and sociable (Venus/Gemini) than his own reserved self (Sun/Sat square Pluto). And perhaps even take the limelight socially, and sometimes something they can do together to a degree (trine Mars/Leo which is trine Neptune denoting glamour).

With your Sun/Moon opposition (in the same signs (!) ) your Moon is square the other big bully, Pluto (not Uranus as is with him). When it comes to emotions and intimacy, there maybe a push-pull between you (which has and will continue to go on for eternity anyhow with men and women): you want closeness and depth (Pluto); he wants to pull away and be light-hearted and global-focused (Uranus). He may detach and points of contention could be that: you make too big a-deal of things and want too much closeness, and you find him shallow (you may not say it) and dismissive; there’s no depth with him.

Your Moons on each others within a degree brings intensity! At first it brings rapport and sympathy. And over time, you will feel each other quite well - you will feel the other’s aspects to their Moon. These aspects will either bring ease or challenge. Sometimes challenge can mean disappointment or frustration, after the initial surface sympathy reveals more complexity.

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You may have hoped that the conjunction (the feel of it I mean, like if you weren’t an astrologer) for someone who you can go the depths with. As is the template of your Moon. What you have instead though is a detached Uranian (as per noted above).

Depending on the level of maturity, age, social context (and so much more) this diversion from hopes and expectations may be acceptable and appreciated. Or it could bring a bitter pill of emotional disappointment, and practical disharmony as you reveal over time that you are innately on different pages.

I will write more soon!

This time I have taken to the process by analysing the natals. While I love synastry charts; they are lovely and simple, I am edging to push myself to get a deeper and broader assessment of relationship astrology.

As I said, there is so much more..

After looking more at the natal planets, I would like to do an appraisal of how each person relieves “stress points” in each other’s charts (the squares etc), like we have discussed before. I think that when this can happen it keeps people together in need and deep appreciation: it’s a healing element that keeps people in a reciprocal exchange.

I would then like to look at the composites. As I have improved my appreciation of these

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posted January 29, 2020 04:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StoneMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Sass for your time and input! So much of this is right on.

I don't consider myself as having moon square pluto bcs it's 10 degrees. I do however consider myself plutonic due to 8th house sun and scorpio rising. I feel the mars trine to moon is more effective. And I also have a 72degree aspect between moon and uranus. I am a little tiny bit uranian in my ways.

My juno in Aqua 3rd house makes me appreciate his uranian ways, and his gem venus, I think. It's funny bcs you are right about much of it, but he is in no way cold or aloof. He is far less afraid of intimacy or commitment than I am. He calls his house "ours" and has treated me like his wife for a while now. N cruelness in him at all, but the Saturn Sun makes him check and recheck everything he does. He is thorough and diligent, and because of that slooooowwwwww moving. Maybe the 7th house moon? He doesn't necessarily go as deep as I would like, so you are accurate with that assessment.

At this point he keeps me from diving too deep, he keeps me grounded. And I push him to go a little deeper than he usually does. But you are right, we've only been together a year. I do feel that my completing and locking in to his t-square, making it a grand cross, is like glue. I feel so much more stable - in a way he's given me legs to my natal opposition. And he feels more stability and direction with my Sun completing his configuration.

My neptune in 1st and 4th house ruled by pisces meets his juno needs.

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posted February 03, 2020 06:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StoneMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Taking an interest in the Vesta conjunct composite NN. In Scorpio it would reflect the need to bond deeply, to remain committed and dedicated to each other. And it's second house, so this would add an interesting dimension to it as well. Comforts of home, belongings owned together. I feel like this points to a structured relationship, one that prioritizes a home together.

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posted February 07, 2020 12:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sassaqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I haven't forgotten StoneMoon. And I'll be back

I just wanted to take it from a few different angles this time. And also really home in on the details and the specifics - starting with that opposition.

Quickly - I was referring to that he has potential for coldness (/cruelty). But I did not mean toward you, just the range of potentials for the Sun/Saturn.

Perhaps there's other bits in the chart that offset that I haven't got to.

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