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Topic: Unaspected Composite Venus conjunct NN
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vansio
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posted December 01, 2019 04:33 PM
  
Hi, I'm looking at a composite chart that has a totally unaspected Sagittarius Venus (not even wide planetary aspects, only one 7-degee square to Chiron) EXCEPT it has Venus conjunct NN 0 degrees exact. Never seen this before, an unaspected Venus, I'm very curious how this would play out. What comes to mind? This is not my own relationship so feel free to say whatever. Some other figures to consider for the sake of a mental picture:
Sun-Moon no contact
Libra Sun opposite Jupiter; square Uranus/Npetune
Scorpio Moon-Mars-Pluto-Mercury conjunct AND all square Saturn IP: Logged |
todd
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posted December 02, 2019 02:03 PM
the exact conjunction of venus and the NN makes it one of the strongest aspects in the composite. it shows the love is part of q destined relationship . it gives a psychic/intuitional connection and can give tantric sexual sensations.the sun square to Neptune/Uranus can give instability that make a long term relationship difficult but there is a reason for them top fall in love.
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jyeshthatequila
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posted December 02, 2019 05:15 PM
I agree with Todd that this does bring out a strong connection as North Node in any chart (natal, synastry, composite) will amplify the planet it is conjunct. Since it is Venus, this brings out more of Venus qualities which is love, romance, sex, intimacy, and materialistic pleasures. IP: Logged |
vansio
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posted December 02, 2019 09:09 PM
Yes that must be a reason because their synastry is tense. Squares to everything without much respite. Seems like a nodal setup to me... parties got together just prior to impending harsh Saturn-Venus and harsh Chiron-Moon, Saturn-Chiron transits natally, currently in effect and replicated energetically within their synastry. Tr.Saturn is conjunct the Neptune/Uranus and will square the Composite Sun opposite Composite Jupiter next month. With the NN at 5° there’ll also be a quincunx from Tr. Uranus. I’m very curious how long this could lastIn their synastry:
Sun square Sun
Moon square Moon
Moon square Mercury DW
Mercury square Mercury
Venus square Venus
Chiron oppositions and squares
Saturn oppositions and squares
Saturn square Saturn
Chiron square Saturn
Pluto square Sun
It just goes on and on I’m gobsmacked All of her planets fall in his 2nd/3rd house... so bizarre IP: Logged |
jyeshthatequila
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posted December 03, 2019 02:14 AM
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Sun square Sun
Moon square Moon
Moon square Mercury DW
Mercury square Mercury
Venus square Venus
Chiron oppositions and squares
Saturn oppositions and squares
Saturn square Saturn
Chiron square Saturn
Pluto square Sun
It just goes on and on I’m gobsmackedAll of her planets fall in his 2nd/3rd house... so bizarre [/B]
Is this the synastry or the composite aspects? You would have to also look at what the house lords are in each persons chart. Essentially the 5th, 7th and 8th are most important as well as the Vertex and I've noticed the Ascendant also. For example, her 7th house is Cancer which is ruled by Moon so you look at what planets of his her Moon is aspecting. I have also noticed that squares and oppositions in synastry do cause a lot of romantic attraction. The bad aspects would be someones north node CONJUNCT another's Sun, Saturn, Mars or South Node CONJUNCT another's Venus, Moon, Sun, Mercury or Jupiter.
These are usually aspects that create toxic relationships or connections that do not last.
Whatever NN touches, it will take on the characteristics of that planet and make that planet its conjunct, stronger. So when NN is conjunct anothers Mars, you'll get more fighting and it usually doesn't last. It can even lead to physical abuse. When someones NN is conjunct anothers Venus, it's good because it will be more loving and affectionate.
South Node touching anothers planets will want to remove those characteristics. So if its conjunct another Mars, this is good because it will make it so there isn't much fighting. South Node touching anothers moon is very bad. It can feel like someone is taking away your consciousness. IP: Logged |
ScandinavianCrab
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posted December 03, 2019 01:25 PM
Imho contacts to the NN, especially conjunctions, demands alot of maturity from the individuals involved.From my experience conjunctions to NN in composites show where there will be differences of the value systems of each individual. From my small experience Venus conjunct NN show that the individuals way of showing love and affection as well their need for love is very different. Supposedly the "fatedness" of theese contacts lays in a mission of sorts for the individuals to alter their view about the highlighted topic and blend it together in something new. Challenge the "dragons head" or stay away if you dont have strength. IP: Logged |
todd
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posted December 03, 2019 02:35 PM
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Originally posted by ScandinavianCrab:
Imho contacts to the NN, especially conjunctions, demands alot of maturity from the individuals involved.From my experience conjunctions to NN in composites show where there will be differences of the value systems of each individual. From my small experience Venus conjunct NN show that the individuals way of showing love and affection as well their need for love is very different. Supposedly the "fatedness" of theese contacts lays in a mission of sorts for the individuals to alter their view about the highlighted topic and blend it together in something new. Challenge the "dragons head" or stay away if you dont have strength.
personally my experience with node/venus has always been spontaneous emotional and sexual attraction.
venus with south node can bring some of the issues you experienced.
but the nodes are always tricky as they are the endpoints of the same nodal energy axis, sometimes experiences one would expect at the north node can take on the character of experiences at the south node. the south nosde is also very emotional and sexual but issues such as jealousy can arise. south node/venus can bring antagonistic emotional feelings sometimes. todd
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vansio
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posted December 07, 2019 12:54 AM
 with so much latent instability, wonder what transit might be the trigger. IP: Logged |
vansio
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posted December 07, 2019 02:17 AM
I didn't notice the semisquare between Venus and Uranus/Neptune before, so I suppose this planet isn't as 'unaspected' as I first thought to post. IP: Logged |
Hikaru29
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posted December 09, 2019 11:58 AM
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Originally posted by jyeshthatequila:
South Node touching anothers planets will want to remove those characteristics. So if its conjunct another Mars, this is good because it will make it so there isn't much fighting.
Is this in synastry or composite? IP: Logged |
vansio
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posted December 12, 2019 08:49 PM
Hey todd, mind answering a question? How probable is marriage in this composite?IP: Logged |
todd
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posted December 13, 2019 11:12 AM
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Originally posted by vansio:
Hey todd, mind answering a question? How probable is marriage in this composite?
I think the s emisquare of Venus to neptune and Uranus makes any type of relationship unstable. the Jupiter/Uranus-Neptune midpoint is conjunct to pallas which suggest she is very interested in a marriage,even though any marriage would not last. the eros/psyche midpoint is conjunct the mars/mercury conjunction which shows they do have a very romantic anx idealistic feeling toward each other. but eros/psyche energies are more od an accent to a relationship rather thsn s structural member. of coursed this could be misunderstood as a lasting emotional commitment which it is not. eros opposed to eris gives a very strong sexual attraction but these symbols especially eris are not really devotional and the sexual energy is of a selfish nature. I think the Saturn/pluto square indicated there will be no relationship mainly because he is too selfish and emotionally distant.as I said it looks like she thinks a marriage would be good ,but this is wishful thinking. likely because she has more to gain from a marriage that he does. the juno/Uranus-Neptune midpoints are conjunct to Pluto so i don't think marriage sin the future ,even though once again it seems she is willing to take chance even though there are many indications this would be a dry well.
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vansio
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posted December 13, 2019 11:49 AM
thanks pointing out these figures.. makes sense with what I’ve noticed about their synastry and general behavior, she overidealizes him, the extent of this illusion is not a mutual “experience”, nor realistic, correlating to the large age difference, she just turned 22, he’s 30. the Jupiter/Juno midpoint opposes Uranus/Neptune as well.knowing him, he would date a much younger person as a means to control the possibility of “getting hurt” while compensating a need to partner for a sense of self-worth. IP: Logged |
vansio
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posted February 19, 2020 06:39 PM
hadn’t occurred to check all asteroids
looking back, turns out this composite aspect is also Venus-Dejanira-NN
6’03°, 5’47°, 5’38°, respectively (updated image in post 8)
the female within this composite-based prompt has a
natal Nessus-Dejanira-Sun-Pluto conjunction square her nodes fascinating how strong natal archetypes are found in relationships IP: Logged |
LeoSagRisingTaurusMoon
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posted February 19, 2020 06:52 PM
Speaking of node contacts, what do you think of these in a synastry?1- his Venus SQUARE both my Nodes
2- his Pluto opposition my North node and conjunct my south Node
3- his North node conjunct my Chiron (quite loosely, the orb is 6ish) IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted February 26, 2020 07:05 PM
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vansio
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posted March 09, 2020 08:04 PM
For anyone interested in tracing timelines in composites, this couple broke up last weeksurvey: which transit you reckon kicked it off?  Tr. Jupiter conjunct Uranus/Neptune IP: Logged |
todd
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posted March 09, 2020 09:23 PM
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Originally posted by vansio:
For anyone interested in tracing timelines in composites, this couple broke up last weeksurvey: which transit you reckon kicked it off? Tr. Jupiter conjunct Uranus/Neptune
it think this relationship has been on the rocks since before you asked about in decemeber . the south node transited the Saturn/Pluto midpoint on November 9th, so there was no love between them and he was being as cold and dominating as he could be . the south node was going back and forth direct and retrograde over the moon/Saturn midpoint most of December til January 23. life really looks like a ***** for her then. your probably right about the Jupiter transit . I also notice that the the psyche /uranaus-neptune midpoints have just gone into 1 degree orb at 4cap 32 with the south node transit and the transiting chiron/liliht conjunct near a 1 degree square to these . I am really surprised she stuck it out so long. it was probably of the enchantment of the node/venus/dejaniera accompanied by the victim complex 0f dejaniera todd IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted March 18, 2020 06:44 PM
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vansio
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posted March 19, 2020 12:41 PM
Interesting comment Todd In november he was publicly displaying his love for her on his social media, even went so far as screen-printing her name + “I love you” on a shirt to wear. Perhaps ramping things up as a way of covering what may be actually happening -- you know how some people will do a PR job to up the obligation, commitment and investment from others? IP: Logged |
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