posted December 04, 2019 06:56 AM            

I've been the Saturn trine to Venus relationship that went both ways, being the Venus that was squared. I can say this much, Saturn-square can be insecure around their partner... to a degree that whenever I see this aspect especially when only one-way (because the impulse isn't reciprocated) I sincerely wonder how much the single Saturn person has taken on the position of managing the other to compensate not working on developing their own internal image-figure, coveting...deflecting the planet. Because your Uranus squares his Moon and his Pluto squares your Moon, I wouldn't be surprised if cross-purposes was an wavering theme between you. Imagine: your emotions/habits cause his Pluto to act, and his emotions/habits cause your Uranus to act—now what do those two dudes do when at odds, challenged? At the very least, show off. As the Saturn-trine, I tried to support what seemed like learning curves of my partners energy but basically wanted him to do whatever he wanted-needed as expression, flowing with time indefinitely... He once had to interrupt me to pass gas during an intense conversation and I genuinely had to laugh; crazy this comes to mind when I think of positive Saturn (could also have been my Jupiter conjunct his Venus). I honestly can't imagine that with the harsh aspects... in a constant existential structure, reacting cooly or firmly, over-constructive, mad about a fart. Some people want that edge but... Saturn contacts make people think they're totally in charge---until they realize they're not because its an actual other person and not just energy for fuel.

I see a lot of women who have their Saturn making harsh aspects to a guy theyre dating's Venus without the double whammy and my gut instinct wonders what are they trying to work out about their own feminine-authority with them. Even the trine was capable of frustrating me at some times, to be so mature in response to love 🤪. Nonetheless, I believe Saturn-Venus contacts are valuable, like an appraiser. The least, your planets activate a responsibility—whether that’s an understood intent depends on if it’s mutual.

If you'd like to know which aspects are genuinely "karmic" between you, make a list of the outer planet aspects that are mutual, positive or negative doesn't matter.

posted December 05, 2019 06:23 AM            

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Originally posted by vansio:
Hm.. tough call when you put it that way.. I think if he's already your partner, you're much better off taking care by studying your and his transit to your own natals that could trigger something evolutionary than fretting about the Saturn-square captivity in synastry. Does his Saturn T-square to your natal planets in opposition -- which would be interesting. Is he well past his Saturn return period, it could be less of an issue - his Saturn is in Sag?

I've been the Saturn trine to Venus relationship that went both ways, being the Venus that was squared. I can say this much, Saturn-square can be insecure around their partner... to a degree that whenever I see this aspect especially when only one-way (because the impulse isn't reciprocated) I sincerely wonder how much the single Saturn person has taken on the position of managing the other to compensate not working on developing their own internal image-figure, coveting...deflecting the planet. Because your Uranus squares his Moon and his Pluto squares your Moon, I wouldn't be surprised if cross-purposes was an wavering theme between you. Imagine: your emotions/habits cause his Pluto to act, and his emotions/habits cause your Uranus to act—now what do those two dudes do when at odds, challenged? At the very least, show off. As the Saturn-trine, I tried to support what seemed like learning curves of my partners energy but basically wanted him to do whatever he wanted-needed as expression, flowing with time indefinitely... He once had to interrupt me to pass gas during an intense conversation and I genuinely had to laugh; crazy this comes to mind when I think of positive Saturn (could also have been my Jupiter conjunct his Venus). I honestly can't imagine that with the harsh aspects... in a constant existential structure, reacting cooly or firmly, over-constructive, mad about a fart. Some people want that edge but... Saturn contacts make people think they're totally in charge---until they realize they're not because its an actual other person and not just energy for fuel.

I see a lot of women who have their Saturn making harsh aspects to a guy theyre dating's Venus without the double whammy and my gut instinct wonders what are they trying to work out about their own feminine-authority with them. Even the trine was capable of frustrating me at some times, to be so mature in response to love 🤪. Nonetheless, I believe Saturn-Venus contacts are valuable, like an appraiser. The least, your planets activate a responsibility—whether that’s an understood intent depends on if it’s mutual.

If you'd like to know which aspects are genuinely "karmic" between you, make a list of the outer planet aspects that are mutual, positive or negative doesn't matter.

Some of us are visual people as charts are generally holistic, post an image for a better analysis? What aspects do you have to your Sun natally? Pisces does like Capricornian assistance... the traditional ruler of Aquarius is Saturn. Maybe it works for you...

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Thanks for the input(: very interesting example of Saturn aspects lol

We are not together yet. Right now I just am interested in him.
I think I made a mistake when I wrote this, his moon doesn't square my Uranus. His moon is in Pisces, my Uranus is in Aquarius. We do have the Moon square Pluto DW which is pretty scary. Ive heard.

Actually my chart only makes positive aspects to his moon, in conjunctions. Except for the outer planet, my Sag Pluto. As for him, he makes negative aspects to my moon. Yet he doesn't rub me the wrong way. I really like him as a person.

Some mutual aspects we have

My moon square his pluto
His moon square my Pluto
We also have it in composite yikes 😬

His moon conjunct my venus
My moon square his venus

My venus conjunct his Jupiter
His venus square my Jupiter

The Saturn aspects are not really mutual since it's mainly his Saturn aspects my inner planets. But my Saturn is in his 7th house

For the visual learners I'll post our synastry chart
hopefully this helps
http://i558.photobucket.com/albums/ss26/SoulOfABird/Image-1_zpse1o4osy0.jpg

posted December 05, 2019 12:00 PM            

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Originally posted by SoulOfABird:
We do have the Moon square Pluto DW

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From Judy Halls’ “Past Life Astrology” book:

posted December 05, 2019 03:08 PM            

“Saturn Interaspects
Saturn introspects are about debts, duties, and promises. When Saturn aspects the personal planets its feel as though there is a soul-debt and a corresponding desire to see things through, to do all that is necessary. There may be an old promise such as "I'll always look after you/be there for you," which may, or may not, be appropriate to have carried forward into the present life. There may also be the feeling that "I owe this person my life, I will do all that I can to help them." This can become a heavy chore. Saturn finds it difficult to let go not of the person but of the need to learn the lesson. On the positive side, relationships do not last without Saturn. It is the glue that holds a relationship together.

“Saturn—Moon
The emotional contact between two souls with this combination can be depressive and heavy, or supportive and caring. It all depends on the previous incarnation. If one soul feels that it is the other's duty to care for it, then the interaction with be difficult. If both souls feel that they want to love and support each other, then it will be constructive.
All the Saturn issues of duty and dependency come up with this interaspect but souls will handle them very differently according to karma and past experience. How much planning was done in the between-life state is also relevant here. If the souls discussed things, planned carefully and gave assurances to each other, then although some difficult tasks may be taken on, the souls will feel that they want to be together and help each other. If, however, the planning was sloppy, or omitted, then one soul can feel trapped by the other. The ability to laugh at oneself helps to deal with this interaspect."

@Hikaru, I wouldn't necessarily compare your Saturn DW aspects to others with it one-sided---commitment being fundamental to your contract. Venus-Neptune being your ace.

posted December 05, 2019 04:14 PM            

AND, they mirror traditional gender assignments: his Sun is conjunct; your Moon is.

You will relate then, on this level.