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ChildofVenus
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posted December 16, 2019 10:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This guy says he wants to be in a relationship and asked me if my feelings are true and genuine. I like him but we hardly have any Saturn aspects in Synastry so I don't really want to get involved. (I know if I get involved I'll want something serious). If I mention synastry to him he'll just get upset and say it's crazy. I tried to explain to him that it's just lust and intensity between us. Due to all the Pluto but he just says no. Says that he's obsessed and hooked on me. I tell him he could be obsessed with anyone and he says no. I said eventually the obsession won't exist he of course says that's not true. I guess for him obsession equals love. But I should expect this from a Scorpio.

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posted December 17, 2019 12:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FireDragon1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm in the same situation. Met a guy who is exactly my type, I'm feeling a connection with him, but when I checked our synasty, we have zero Saturn aspects. I'm scared to get involved too, because I'm already falling for him.

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posted December 17, 2019 01:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by FireDragon1:
I'm in the same situation. Met a guy who is exactly my type, I'm feeling a connection with him, but when I checked our synasty, we have zero Saturn aspects. I'm scared to get involved too, because I'm already falling for him.

Ive seen posts on here where some people say they know of couples who have been together for awhile with no Saturn aspects. I do have a few with this person but I dont think its enough. Ive read that parallels between Saturn and personal planets in synastry are good for longevity. You should check the Composite chart you may have Saturn aspects in the Composite chart. I really hate it because Its hard enough for me to actually find someone I really like. And of course I wouldnt have many Saturn aspects with the one I really like go figure lol.

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posted December 18, 2019 11:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for summerflowers     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I dated someone who has Saturn aspects with me, but my Saturn is almost unaspected. Although he always wanted to stay in the relationship, I rarely felt a bond with him and unhesitatingly broke up with him 2 years later.

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posted December 19, 2019 02:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by summerflowers:
I dated someone who has Saturn aspects with me, but my Saturn is almost unaspected. Although he always wanted to stay in the relationship, I rarely felt a bond with him and unhesitatingly broke up with him 2 years later.

What aspects did you have? Did you have any in the Composite chart? With another guy I know my Saturn makes hard aspects to his Moon and Venus. His Saturn hardly aspects my personal planets. Hes tried to cut me off a lot but to no avail and its been four years.

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posted December 19, 2019 03:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for summerflowers     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
What aspects did you have? Did you have any in the Composite chart? With another guy I know my Saturn makes hard aspects to his Moon and Venus. His Saturn hardly aspects my personal planets. He's tried to cut me off a lot but to no avail and it's been four years.

Guess it's rough when only one person's Saturn is activated in the relationship.

In synastry:
Him - Me
Saturn square Pluto orb -014'
Saturn square AS orb 119'
Saturn trine Sun orb +509'
Saturn trine Mercury orb -446'
Saturn opposite MC orb 155'

I only have one Saturn aspect to him: my Saturn squares his Node 324'.

In composite:
Jupiter trine Saturn orb +016'
Mars opposite Saturn orb -536'
Saturn square Pluto orb +639'

These composite Saturn aspects weren't powerful enough, huh.

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posted December 19, 2019 06:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for roseblue     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would caution against not doing something just because of astrology... if you feel drawn to them in a positive way.. try it.

However lack of Saturn might cause some problems with keeping the relationship feeling strong year after year

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posted December 19, 2019 08:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by roseblue:
I would caution against not doing something just because of astrology... if you feel drawn to them in a positive way.. try it.

However lack of Saturn might cause some problems with keeping the relationship feeling strong year after year


Yes but how many Saturn aspects are needed? That's the real question because people always say lack of Saturn. But never say how much is needed?

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posted December 19, 2019 09:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by summerflowers:
Guess it's rough when only one person's Saturn is activated in the relationship.

In synastry:
Him - Me
Saturn square Pluto orb -014'
Saturn square AS orb 119'
Saturn trine Sun orb +509'
Saturn trine Mercury orb -446'
Saturn opposite MC orb 155'

I only have one Saturn aspect to him: my Saturn squares his Node 324'.

In composite:
Jupiter trine Saturn orb +016'
Mars opposite Saturn orb -536'
Saturn square Pluto orb +639'

These composite Saturn aspects weren't powerful enough, huh.



Most people say it's the hard aspects in synastry that would make the Saturn person want to commit. But I see a lot of soft aspects from his Saturn to yours

I have Saturn opposition Mars, Saturn square IC and Moon quincunx Saturn I'm the Saturn person. Their Saturn trine my MC, squares my Mercury and Jupiter.

In composite we have Moon square Saturn but also Moon square Uranus. So I'm not sure how that works. Also Saturn square AC, Saturn conjunct Uranus, Saturn conjunct Juno and Saturn conjunct Neptune.

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posted December 20, 2019 06:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by summerflowers:
Guess it's rough when only one person's Saturn is activated in the relationship.

In synastry:
Him - Me
Saturn square Pluto orb -014'
Saturn square AS orb 119'
Saturn trine Sun orb +509'
Saturn trine Mercury orb -446'
Saturn opposite MC orb 155'

I only have one Saturn aspect to him: my Saturn squares his Node 324'.

In composite:
Jupiter trine Saturn orb +016'
Mars opposite Saturn orb -536'
Saturn square Pluto orb +639'

These composite Saturn aspects weren't powerful enough, huh.


You don't need A LOT of Saturn to bind, just a couple will do and it's good to have it both ways. I noticed a lot of long-term couples have Saturn-personal planets DW in Synastry.

Saturn square Nodes is very binding according to some who've had this aspects with their partners. I also have it with my guy but we're only together 1+yrs so I can't tell you how binding it is. Feels like a lot of growth and changes though.

What's not so good is Pluto square Saturn. Pluto does not like the limitations/rules Saturn imposes and may resist. In composite this aspect shows a bond that's easily threatened, but of course it depends on what other supportive aspects you have.

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posted December 20, 2019 10:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for manderin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
zero Saturn and a little saturn are two different things.

A little saturn is all you need depending on the aspect.

It's usually best if the man is the saturn because it's the saturn person that tends to want to hold on to the relationship more.

No saturn? Well I've never seen a long term, stable relationship with no saturn in it, but I don't know- maybe it happens.

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posted December 20, 2019 11:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for manderin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by roseblue:
I would caution against not doing something just because of astrology...

I second this. Astrology has an influence, but it's just an influence. It doesn't have supreme power over people.
That's why so many people propose to the person that fulfills an idea in their head and not necessarily the person that's going to be a great lifelong partner for them. They can treat the partner that's best for them like **** and chase after someone that's not ideal for them. Happens all the time.

One of the best astrological examples for this is moon conjunct mars. A lot of guys will propose to the girl that makes this aspect happen for them- BUT it's usually not a great combination for long-term. Too much moon/mars energy often leads to divorce.

So it's not as easy as looking at synastry and thinking Oh yes- this person fits perfectly so I've found them! They have to appreciate the qualities that make you fit perfectly. A sweet, caring and compatible person can be considered "boring" to someone who under-values those things. While someone who is not compatible can be considered exciting and fun to someone who over-values those things. If you don't value the traits that make you compatible you're not going to marry the right person for you and the rub is- BOTH people have to value those traits for the relationship to happen and last. That doesn't always come easily.

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posted December 21, 2019 12:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Librapurr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So if only one person has couple Saturn aspects, but the second - none; only one person would be glued too this relationship? One sided commitment?
Wouldnt one persons Saturn make any commitment effect on a moon or the other personal planet of the second person? Saturn is supposed to be a teacher. Can it teach the other person to be more committed?

However, you dont want to have too much Saturn aspects, its not so easy planet. It can put too much restrictions.

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posted December 21, 2019 12:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for manderin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Librapurr:
So if only one person has couple Saturn aspects, but the second - none; only one person would be glued too this relationship? One sided commitment?
Wouldnt one persons Saturn make any commitment effect on a moon or the other personal planet of the second person? Saturn is supposed to be a teacher. Can it teach the other person to be more committed?

However, you dont want to have too much Saturn aspects, its not so easy planet. It can put too much restrictions.


Yes the planet person does feel the glue, but the saturn person is the one with the stickiness. You can think of it like this: If you have double sided sticky tape on a piece of white paper and you take some red paper with no tape on it and place it on top- the red paper will stick to the white one- but it will also be easier to remove because it's not the piece with the sticky tape.

That may not be the best example but basically, the saturn person is the one with the sticky tape. They tend to have more interest in keeping the relationship around. Whenever you see friends or couples spilt apart and only one person was making saturn aspects while the other person's saturn was making none- you can usually guess with tremendous accuracy that it was the non saturn person that left.

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posted December 21, 2019 05:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Librapurr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by manderin:
Yes the planet person does feel the glue, but the saturn person is the one with the stickiness. You can think of it like this: If you have double sided sticky tape on a piece of white paper and you take some red paper with no tape on it and place it on top- the red paper will stick to the white one- but it will also be easier to remove because it's not the piece with the sticky tape.

That may not be the best example but basically, the saturn person is the one with the sticky tape. They tend to have more interest in keeping the relationship around. Whenever you see friends or couples spilt apart and only one person was making saturn aspects while the other person's saturn was making none- you can usually guess with tremendous accuracy that it was the non saturn person that left.



The good example, thanks. Id imagine Saturn in Composite will add more glue on the both parties.

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posted December 21, 2019 06:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by manderin:
zero Saturn and a little saturn are two different things.

A little saturn is all you need depending on the aspect.

It's usually best if the man is the saturn because it's the saturn person that tends to want to hold on to the relationship more.

No saturn? Well I've never seen a long term, stable relationship with no saturn in it, but I don't know- maybe it happens.


I always wonder how many Saturn aspects are needed. Since some people say some charts have a lack of Saturn aspects. Do you know how Moon square Saturn with Moon square Uranus in a Composite would work?

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posted December 21, 2019 10:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for anska5     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by manderin:
zero Saturn and a little saturn are two different things.

A little saturn is all you need depending on the aspect.

It's usually best if the man is the saturn because it's the saturn person that tends to want to hold on to the relationship more.

No saturn? Well I've never seen a long term, stable relationship with no saturn in it, but I don't know- maybe it happens.


Would several minor aspects like semi-square, semi-sextile, quincunx, quintile count as aspects to someone's saturn or would only the major ones count?

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posted December 21, 2019 10:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by manderin:
I second this. Astrology has an influence, but it's just an influence. It doesn't have supreme power over people.
That's why so many people propose to the person that fulfills an idea in their head and not necessarily the person that's going to be a great lifelong partner for them. They can treat the partner that's best for them like **** and chase after someone that's not ideal for them. Happens all the time.

Agree. We're always drawn by attraction first, and in all honesty, we won't know if someone is really compatible with us UNTIL we start dating them. I know a couple who were great friends until they started dating. Didn't work out... so they went back to being friends.

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posted December 21, 2019 10:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by anska5:
Would several minor aspects like semi-square, semi-sextile, quincunx, quintile count as aspects to someone's saturn or would only the major ones count?


Good question

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