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Dons2angelss
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posted December 20, 2019 07:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dons2angelss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow this is going to be a long one! I feel like 2019 has had it out for me in the personal relationship department. I've had some serious upheavals in my life with friends, partners, and family. This one in particular is really, REALLY pushing me to the edge. My youngest sister (I'm 16 years older, we share a mother) and I haven't really had a relationship, we were practically strangers. I left when she was very young (her father and I never got along) and even when she was older, we never got along. I've always been able to "feel" her though. I knew when she was upset, or happy, or when something was going to happen to her. There's also been this tension between us and this caused me to keep an emotional distance. This past year, because of certain incidents, her baby was put in my custody out of the blue and in order for her to regain custody, she has to live with me for quite some time. This has been insanely difficult for both of us as we've never really had a relationship and didn't really know each other.

What's bizarre is in spite of not keeping in contact and having no relationship, she is literally walking in my footsteps. Making the same exact choices I did, having the same emotional reactions I did, putting herself in the same predicaments I did. It's like watching myself live my life all over again. She's also dealing with a lot of psychic energy just like I did at her age and her abilities are extremely similar to mine.

The problem is, I don't get along with myself lol. I see myself in her down to a T and I don't like 19 year old me. We fight and argue and I've found myself on the flip side of the same exact arguments I had with people when I was in her exact position 16 years ago. It's like the universe is playing a cruel joke on me by putting me in my own face. I help her as much as I can to deal with everything she's going through because I've been in her shoes and I have 16 years of knowledge after the fact to offer her. It's just that this situation has turned my life upside down and I guess I feel forced to be her mother right now (ours really sucks). It's taking patience that I didn't even know I had and my stress level is absolutely through the roof. I honestly don't know what to do at this point, I'm stuck in this and really don't want to be lol. Please help me look into our charts so I can have a better understanding of the karma that's being worked through.


Synastry, I'm in blue and her birth time is within 30 minutes

Composite

Davison


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Stoika7
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posted December 20, 2019 08:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There is a strong bond indeed between you two. You might see the younger yourself in her, while she sees you as the person she would like to be somehow... you are both talented, sensitive and psychic persons, both with an emotional wound from your family history, more likely from a female figure (Moon/mother), you both are Sun 12 house, but you even carrying your Chiron conjunct ASC/NN, are likely able to sort your issues out by focusing on your self-reliance and in a straight down to earth attitude. She hasnt found her "individual" structure yet, she has deep self-worth/assertiveness issues and also difficult relationships... she also might have self-damaging attitude... she feels like her inner life-foundations are missing and subconsciously looks for stability or a protective environment/family. You might represent such foundation for her. Even though, there's a love/hate relationship, with Composite Venus/ASC/Jupiter square the Nodes and Composite Pluto square Saturn/Mercury. None of you two compromises and is willing to accept the other since, as you also are aware, this is a "mirror" relationship where you both sees the other's issues as a projection of yourselves. In fact, you have Composite Sun/Chiron in 12th house, so you share unresolved issues. This is something that has more to do with your own selves than with the other. Even so, the Mars/Moon in 8th trine to Sun/Chiron shows there's a deep emotional bond at subconscious level, but it is square to Saturn, so it is very hard to let the positive feelings flow. Vertex conjunct DSC opposite Venus and square to the Nodes shows there's another level of connection between you two, this is very psychic and karmic, and it seems that the affection your share is not manifesting, even though it is there and is very rooted, you just can't or a re not willing to see/feel it. The Nodes placement look these issues might be very hard to be solved between you two, NN is in Gemini trine to Mercury, so this to me suggests that there is need to work about your communication in order to balance such deep rooted and subconscious issues and to find a way to relate to each other in a more positive way.

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Dons2angelss
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posted December 22, 2019 08:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dons2angelss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Stoika7:
There is a strong bond indeed between you two. You might see the younger yourself in her, while she sees you as the person she would like to be somehow... you are both talented, sensitive and psychic persons, both with an emotional wound from your family history, more likely from a female figure (Moon/mother), you both are Sun 12 house, but you even carrying your Chiron conjunct ASC/NN, are likely able to sort your issues out by focusing on your self-reliance and in a straight down to earth attitude. She hasnt found her "individual" structure yet, she has deep self-worth/assertiveness issues and also difficult relationships... she also might have self-damaging attitude... she feels like her inner life-foundations are missing and subconsciously looks for stability or a protective environment/family. You might represent such foundation for her. Even though, there's a love/hate relationship, with Composite Venus/ASC/Jupiter square the Nodes and Composite Pluto square Saturn/Mercury. None of you two compromises and is willing to accept the other since, as you also are aware, this is a "mirror" relationship where you both sees the other's issues as a projection of yourselves. In fact, you have Composite Sun/Chiron in 12th house, so you share unresolved issues. This is something that has more to do with your own selves than with the other. Even so, the Mars/Moon in 8th trine to Sun/Chiron shows there's a deep emotional bond at subconscious level, but it is square to Saturn, so it is very hard to let the positive feelings flow. Vertex conjunct DSC opposite Venus and square to the Nodes shows there's another level of connection between you two, this is very psychic and karmic, and it seems that the affection your share is not manifesting, even though it is there and is very rooted, you just can't or a re not willing to see/feel it. The Nodes placement look these issues might be very hard to be solved between you two, NN is in Gemini trine to Mercury, so this to me suggests that there is need to work about your communication in order to balance such deep rooted and subconscious issues and to find a way to relate to each other in a more positive way.


Thank you, we definitely need to work on our communications. The way we approach each other is really the problem and we're forced to find a whole new way to go about our issues and it's extremely difficult.

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Graham
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posted December 23, 2019 04:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Graham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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Please help me look into our charts so I can have a better understanding of the karma that's being worked through.

With regard to the interceptions + duplications in your own chart, D2a ... why might your soul have chosen to "lock away" the positive qualities of the resource signs, until a 'habitual behaviour" issue in the 2nd + 8th houses (of own values vs the values of others) has been resolved?

[Note : There is no "right answer" to this question. ... The aim is only to come up with a past-life-story which fits with (i.e.. could have created) the 2nd-8th house behavioural issue of the current incarnation.]

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Graham
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posted December 23, 2019 04:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Graham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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we definitely need to work on our communications.

From your natal chart duplications (cancer on cusps of 2nd+3rd - Capricorn on cusps of 8th+9th) and interceptions :-

A problem in the 2nd and 8th houses is adversely affecting the activities of the 3rd and 9th houses, in a way that - until resolved - prevents the positive qualities of your intercepted signs, planets and points from being used effectively (by you).

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Graham
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posted December 23, 2019 04:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Graham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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The way we approach each other is really the problem

"the way I approach her (and respond to how she approaches me) is really the problem".

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Dons2angelss
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posted December 23, 2019 09:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dons2angelss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The more I look deeper into the situation, the more I see exactly what you're saying. Reflecting back on times when we've argued I see where it flew right off the tracks and I'm becoming more aware of how I approach and react to her. My problem is, I feel like I'm being forced and my instinctual reaction to that is to dig my heels in and resist until I'm ready and it's on my terms...insanely difficult to change because I don't even realize that's what I've done. On the outside, I look like I'm ready to take whatever comes my way, until it challenges my internal functioning and then I brake hardcore.

Thank you ♡

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Graham
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posted December 23, 2019 10:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Graham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dons2angelss:
The more I look deeper into the situation, the more I see exactly what you're saying. Reflecting back on times when we've argued I see where it flew right off the tracks and I'm becoming more aware of how I approach and react to her. My problem is, I feel like I'm being forced and my instinctual reaction to that is to dig my heels in and resist until I'm ready and it's on my terms...insanely difficult to change because I don't even realize that's what I've done. On the outside, I look like I'm ready to take whatever comes my way, until it challenges my internal functioning and then I brake hardcore.

Thank you ♡


Let's assume your soul had experienced a life as (say) a member of the wealthy/resource-rich aristocracy prior to (and during) the French Revolution ... whose general awareness of the plight of the starving population is summed up by the story of Marie-Antoinette's response (on being informed the people had no bread/food to eat) of "then, let them eat cake".

And ... after being executed, it dawns on your soul (whilst reflecting in Heaven) that those starving people suffered because your values were "out-of-step" with theirs. So, your now horrified-at-the-thought-of-it-happening-again Soul decides to construct the "next incarnation" natal chart in a way that prevents it from doing harm to others, whilst developing the desired new values/behavioural traits.

How would you use interceptions and duplications to program that "next incarnation" natal chart in a way impels/steers the (soul-accompanying) ego towards that objective?

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Dons2angelss
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posted December 23, 2019 11:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dons2angelss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I do remember some of my past lives and that makes perfect sense in regards to a specific life I remember.

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GalacticCoreExplosion
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posted December 23, 2019 02:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Earlier when I read this, I wanted to respond (but didn't have enough time) that the astrology only shows us symbolically what is is there, but not WHY it's there, and that actual exploration of potential other lives and/or karmic connections with individuals would be more helpful.

Graham beat me to it though.

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Graham
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posted December 24, 2019 02:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Graham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dons2angelss:
I do remember some of my past lives and that makes perfect sense in regards to a specific life I remember.

So ... the aspects made by your sister's natal chart to your natal vertex/anti-vertex reveal (or indicate)? ... lilith + Neptune square : Jupiter qcx : Sun sextile.

And, is transit Uranus** not stationing (to turn direct) on your anti-vertex in January 2020?

http://www.astrosoftware.com/cpnew/software/reports/samples/vertex.html ... The Vertex: What you're fated to develop.


[ ** Transit Uranus - the whack on the side of the head, to make us look in a different direction.]

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Sabian Symbol for Scorpio 3 :-

NEIGHBORS HELP IN A HOUSE-RAISING PARTY IN A SMALL VILLAGE

This Symbol shows people coming together in order to commune and build and accomplish something. Rather than going it alone, great things can be achieved if everyone works and pulls together. It is by acting as a community, rather than as separate individuals, that difficult projects can be undertaken and completed. Sharing one’s skills, resources, time, tools and experiences can build worthwhile community values and enduring friendships that enrich and reward the community. Along with the labor, there will be time to share a drink, a meal and a chat, further drawing people into a sense of community and a shared purpose. Co-operation. Parties. Considering the needs of people. Dormitories. Building bigger and better things. Matchmaking. Community halls. Helping hands. Homeless shelters.

The Caution: Taking advantage of group generosity. Refusing group endeavors. Bickering over who does what. Not trusting people’s input. Shutting off from others.


Sabian Symbol for Taurus 3 :-

NATURAL STEPS UP TO A LAWN BLOOMING WITH CLOVER

This Symbol often shows comfort, luxury, riches, beauty and the good things in life. It implies that a time of fulfillment is close by, but there often is still some small effort to be made in that one has to take the simple steps towards inviting wonderful things into your life. Keep going the way you are, following your natural intuition, and you will find the peace you have in sight. Just be aware not to become complacent or lazy as doing nothing and not putting any effort in could lead to great possibilities slipping away. Hopefulness. Inspirational possibilities. Gradually enlarging one's vision. Harmony. Abundance. Nourishment. Being barefoot. Small efforts leading to large returns.

The Caution: Looking for the easy way out. Not making the effort to find what is a few steps away. Expecting everything to be laid out for you. Weeds and unkempt lives.

http://sabiansymbols.com


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My problem is, I feel like I'm being forced and my instinctual reaction to that is to dig my heels in and resist until I'm ready and it's on my terms...insanely difficult to change because I don't even realize that's what I've done.

"Then let them eat cake."

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Dons2angelss
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posted December 24, 2019 06:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dons2angelss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Graham. It all rings too true.

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