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posted December 26, 2019 02:35 AM            

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Hey everyone 😁, hope you all had a wonderful Christmas if you celebrate 😇

So I want to learn and practice predictive techniques more, specifically marriage. So this will be like a case study, and I wanted do it on here too and share, because hopefully it will be helpful to anyone else who stumbles upon this thread hoping to learn or is interested 👍

*****Btw, you need an accurate TOB, from your birth certificate in order to participate, since predictive work is highly degree and time sensitive, we need accurate angles! Lol*****

Post your natal chart with transits the day you got married, and only if you have your partner’s accurate TOB, post the composite with transits the day you were married too... thank you!
And as a bonus, you can post the day you also got divorced if that applies to you.

Also, If you’ve never been married and are 60 or older, you can participate too as an example chart of delayed or no marriage in the natal

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posted December 26, 2019 10:59 AM            

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and im trying to find my rising through my marriage date

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posted December 26, 2019 11:10 AM            

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But this what I can tell you is, that on the wedding day, transisting Juno was exactly on my spouse's Descendant same degree.

And I am trying to find, if Transisting Mars (my spouse is also an aries rising) was on my Descendant or Juno was on my Ascendant.

Or was Juno Conjunct my Saturn?

Which would be more accurate for me, to be married. So I can know what is my rising. Any help?

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posted December 26, 2019 06:49 PM            

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Hey sinder

I can definitely try help you figure out your rising sign

Do you know roughly around the time? Even if it was day or night?

If not, post your natal with whatever time, and your spouses. And I’ll ask you a few questions, and I’m sure I could narrow it down for you

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posted December 26, 2019 07:15 PM            

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Oh wow thank you sweetly!!
Can I email you?
Sorry I don’t usually post my chart ..
let me know if it’s too much hassle 😊

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posted December 26, 2019 08:03 PM            

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posted December 26, 2019 10:15 PM            

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Hi Luna! here is mine

im in a relationship but we are not legally married or anything like that, it has to be a legal marriage?

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posted December 27, 2019 12:17 AM            

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Originally posted by Kekerina:
Hi Luna! here is mine

im in a relationship but we are not legally married or anything like that, it has to be a legal marriage?

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Yes, has to be legal marriage not just in a relationship. Sorry!!! But thanks for trying to help, appreciate it 😁

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posted December 27, 2019 04:44 AM            

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I will add mine to assist in your research.

Marriage in 2001 divorce 2003.

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posted December 27, 2019 05:36 AM            

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Originally posted by starstruck1:
I will add mine to assist in your research.

Marriage in 2001 divorce 2003.

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Thank you! You definitely match the pattern Ive been noticing and seeing so far.
During marriage; transit Saturn and Juno seem to be involved. Usually Saturn in or conjunct the 7th cusp, or more commonly, making a hard aspect to the 7th ruler.
In your case, transit Saturn was square your 7th ruler sun in pisces. And transit Juno was in your 7th house

During the divorce; transit Saturn was square your natal Venus, and opposite your natal Juno. Interestingly transit Chiron (pain) was conjunct your Juno (marriage) as well.
Seems Saturn is involved in breakups as well as commitments! But I’ll keep everyone updated of further patterns I notice.

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posted December 27, 2019 07:59 AM            

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Natal chart on day I got married

Natal chart the day the divorce was finalized

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posted December 27, 2019 08:03 AM            

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I am not sure if you want the finalization of the divorce. We actually separated in October of 2013, but the divorce took quite a while to go through. I don't know the actual date in Oct, but it was early. I can post that too?

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posted December 27, 2019 04:49 PM            

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Sent you the email .

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posted December 27, 2019 06:51 PM            

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Originally posted by Sinder:
Sent you the email .

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Are you sure? I don’t see anything

email is the same spelling as my username but without the capitols @gmail.com

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posted December 27, 2019 07:07 PM            

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[QUOTE]Origina

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posted December 27, 2019 08:49 PM            

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StoneMoon;
Haha yes you fit the pattern too 👍
Transit Saturn in Gemini in your 7th house and also square your 7th ruler Venus in Virgo when you got married. Also transit Juno was opposed your natal Juno

When you separated, transit Saturn was square your natal Juno, also transit Chiron opp your Venus (7th ruled). So far I'm noticing Chiron involved in the breakups/separation or divorce which would make a lot of sense, since these situations are usually painful and difficult.
I also expected some Neptune involved (dissolution/dissolving) and sure enough, transit Neptune was opposite your natal Venus (7th ruler) during the separation.

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posted December 27, 2019 08:50 PM            

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Yes sinder I got it now
I emailed you back

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posted December 29, 2019 06:29 PM            

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Interesting Lunal, and thank you!

So Neptune opposite my Venus was more than appropriate - I found out he had attempted to cheat (but was rebuffed).

Are you noticing patterns of how Saturn, Chiron, Juno and potentially Neptune are involved?

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posted December 29, 2019 06:35 PM            

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Originally posted by StoneMoon:
Interesting Lunal, and thank you!

So Neptune opposite my Venus was more than appropriate - I found out he had attempted to cheat (but was rebuffed).

Are you noticing patterns of how Saturn, Chiron, Juno and potentially Neptune are involved?

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Oh wow, yes Neptune can rule lies, deception and hidden things as well ....

But yes I am, I’m still looking at celebrities charts with Birth certificate TOB on the Astro databank, and my own databank of clients and friends and family.
I like to look at at least 100 if not more to be sure lol I’m a stickler. I have to be confident before I say this means this etc. which only comes after through research.
So I’ll keep you all updated later when I do that

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posted December 31, 2019 09:38 AM            

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I have been looking at solar returns too and how they may indicate marriage. Same players-Venus, Saturn, Neptune, Juno....

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posted December 31, 2019 09:58 AM            

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Originally posted by StoneMoon:
I have been looking at solar returns too and how they may indicate marriage. Same players-Venus, Saturn, Neptune, Juno....

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Cool, yes I was going to do that next. But I personally prefer transits the most and am most familiar/comfortable with them so I figured i would do that first lol

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posted January 03, 2020 03:03 PM            

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Honestly I don't give a ton of credence to solar returns as predictive because there are soooooo many ways energy can play out. I do appreciate them for looking at them more for past/already occurred events. I find it fascinating to read backwards!

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posted January 09, 2020 05:38 AM            

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Originally posted by StoneMoon:
Honestly I don't give a ton of credence to solar returns as predictive because there are soooooo many ways energy can play out. I do appreciate them for looking at them more for past/already occurred events. I find it fascinating to read backwards!

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Yes! Same I find reading backwards very helpful.
I’ve gotten into solar arcs a lot too recently. Fascinating stuff.
What are some of your favourite predictive techniques or things you look for/focus on when looking at a solar return chart?
I always look to see if there is a stellium, any interpreted planets, what house the sun is in and also what house the asc ruler is in. I find that very helpful, and tends to show the main theme of that year I noticed.

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posted January 09, 2020 06:37 AM            

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Honestly I have looked at them before and started looking again just recently. I agree to the ASC and ASC ruler, and also any planets conjunct the angle, either in the SR or from the natal. The moon, too.

I just happened to notice that the same planets you were studying in natal charts for marriage factors (and divorce) were prominent or active in the SR too. Similar with progressed charts.

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posted October 23, 2021 06:25 AM            

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