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SoulOfABird
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posted December 27, 2019 03:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SoulOfABird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So I hear often that mars-moon conjunction is one of the best, if not the best romantic aspect in synastry when the man is mars woman is moon. It got me a little worried because my guy has a Pisces mars and it's his 8th house ruler! He also has moon-mars conjunction natally...but my moon is in Aquarius. But it is in the 12th house. So Im wondering if this could almost have some type of affinity between his mars and my moon, since Pisces rules the 12th house. I have a feeling not but I figure Id ask anyway lol

People say this aspect adds sexual intimacy with emotions. And to me I think emotions should be involved in the act of sexual intimacy, so Im afraid that we won't have that connection.

I mean we have other aspects that are supposed to indicate good sexual compatibility, like his mars conjunct my Venus, Pluto trine my venus, venus trine venus, moon-pluto dw, his venus in my 8th house, my moon in his 5th house..
My Pisces stellium conjuncts his Pisces stellium.. but no moon-mars people swear by that aspect.. so I hope that emotional attraction can still be involved between because to me there is no point if there is no emotional involvement in the act.
So can my moon house placement kind of adds some connection there with his mars or does not mean anything?

I would appreciate any input thanks (:

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posted December 28, 2019 10:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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GalacticCoreExplosion
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posted December 29, 2019 07:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Astrology only reflects what is already there by past use of will.

I wouldn't worry too much about one particular aspect and/or it's lack.

What's there in the relationship? Is there emotional intimacy, is there emotional closeness, is there mutual sexual attraction?

That's what matters. Astrology doesn't cause anything anyways. It doesn't "cause" people to be attracted to each other, etc. If you can't tell this without synastry, then no amount of astrology and understanding of same will help a relationship. It is better to use and attune to one's intuition then look at static chart patterns. Relationships are based on a complex, fluidic blend of past associations, how energies inter mesh, current use of will, etc.

Relationships are tricky because it takes two to tango, so even if we are exercising our spiritual will to grow, change for the better, etc. there is no guarantee that the other person will choose similarly. Astrology doesn't show us current use of will, and how that affects things.

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posted December 31, 2019 02:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bismarck2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by SoulOfABird:
So I hear often that mars-moon conjunction is one of the best, if not the best romantic aspect in synastry when the man is mars woman is moon. It got me a little worried because my guy has a Pisces mars and it's his 8th house ruler! He also has moon-mars conjunction natally...but my moon is in Aquarius. But it is in the 12th house. So Im wondering if this could almost have some type of affinity between his mars and my moon, since Pisces rules the 12th house. I have a feeling not but I figure Id ask anyway lol

People say this aspect adds sexual intimacy with emotions. And to me I think emotions should be involved in the act of sexual intimacy, so Im afraid that we won't have that connection.

I mean we have other aspects that are supposed to indicate good sexual compatibility, like his mars conjunct my Venus, Pluto trine my venus, venus trine venus, moon-pluto dw, his venus in my 8th house, my moon in his 5th house..
My Pisces stellium conjuncts his Pisces stellium.. but no moon-mars people swear by that aspect.. so I hope that emotional attraction can still be involved between because to me there is no point if there is no emotional involvement in the act.
So can my moon house placement kind of adds some connection there with his mars or does not mean anything?

I would appreciate any input thanks (:


Men don't usually look for their mars in women, but then again, you said it rules his 8th, so maybe.

I hear Mars in Pisces dudes are weird though. As in they like to both pitch and receive, if you know what I mean.

What you speak of is called "symbolism matching" and while having your moon in Pisces does mean you're inclined to be his type, aspects are more important when it comes to attraction.

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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion:
Astrology only reflects what is already there by past use of will.

I wouldn't worry too much about one particular aspect and/or it's lack.

What's there in the relationship? Is there emotional intimacy, is there emotional closeness, is there mutual sexual attraction?

That's what matters. Astrology doesn't cause anything anyways. It doesn't "cause" people to be attracted to each other, etc. If you can't tell this without synastry, then no amount of astrology and understanding of same will help a relationship. It is better to use and attune to one's intuition then look at static chart patterns. Relationships are based on a complex, fluidic blend of past associations, how energies inter mesh, current use of will, etc.

Relationships are tricky because it takes two to tango, so even if we are exercising our spiritual will to grow, change for the better, etc. there is no guarantee that the other person will choose similarly. Astrology doesn't show us current use of will, and how that affects things.


Couldn't disagree more. Free will exists, but it is extremely difficult to "rise above your chart," especially when most people are unconsciously following theirs, forcing you to react to them instinctually(as described by your chart). In other words, your chart describes your instincts, habits and inclinations. All of which influence your "will."

If what you said were true, birthtime rectification and many other astrological practices would be useless.

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posted January 01, 2020 09:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Bismarck2:
Couldn't disagree more. Free will exists, but it is extremely difficult to "rise above your chart," especially when most people are unconsciously following theirs, forcing you to react to them instinctually(as described by your chart). In other words, your chart describes your instincts, habits and inclinations. All of which influence your "will."

If what you said were true, birthtime rectification and many other astrological practices would be useless.


I agree with you that it is indeed difficult (and rare) to radically change a birth chart, but who was talking about that to begin with? My earlier reply was in the context of one synastric aspect, or rather lack thereof, and my advice was more in that specific context.

Changing one small part of the chart isn't so hard or unusual actually, especially in relation to one's character/personality tendencies/patterns.

But comparing this to rectification which primarily relies on major life events, many of which are beyond our conscious control and knowledge i.e. "happens to us", is a bit apples to oranges.

The exact specific timing of major events is often something our conscious personality level has little say about. Spiritual will and the exercising of same is relative to one's conscious awareness (extremely hard to change something that which is unconscious). How many humans have constant awareness of probable future timelines and flows?

That's the first issue. 2nd issue is that even if we did have conscious fore-knowledge, sometimes events, because they involve other people, other freewill's, other plans both conscious and unconscious, are just beyond our control. There is often pre-planning that goes on with events, both personal and collective, but it's often partly on an expanded Spirit level to which the personality level is rarely privy to, which combined with the actual conscious planning of humans that goes on, makes the whole picture rather complex and difficult to sort out.

Which is why future is rarely, if ever, completely certain or fixed ahead of time. It's constantly in a state of flux and can only be spoken in terms of greater or lesser probability as to actual manifestation. And I'm speaking as one who has had a handful of precognitive dreams wherein the events later did happen.

This is rather different than one becoming aware of their own character and/or personality traits, and consciously, or unconsciously (as is more often the case when the change involves retrogression rather than growth) changing or altering them.

As to astrologers trying to divine the future, well if one looks at politics and the like, using horary, transits, progressions, etc, many astrologers and their predictions tend to be rather off much of the time. I remember back during the Clinton-Trump campaigns--many astrologers spoke convincingly and with great confidence that Clinton was going to win and become the US president. Astro dot com forum in particular had some very experienced, older astrologers that made that call.

So much for that.

And like I said, the comparison is rather apples to oranges, in it's proper context/perspective, anyways.

I just don't agree with how so many seem to approach astrology in such a fatalistic and deterministic way. Our spiritual will and past use of same is what made our current chart, and as we speak, we are writing a new and different chart for another life or Soul self's life by the current use of our spiritual will. It's extremely rare that two charts from two different lifetimes and/or connected selves are extremely similar, let alone exactly the same.

Sometimes certain patterns do repeat, but the whole chart? Nah.

Astrology, imo, should put more focus on spiritual will and the exercise of same.

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Randall
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