posted January 22, 2020 06:47 PM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
But it doesn't conjunct the ascendant?

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What do you think it means?

What does the Ascendant mean?

What is the symbolism and meaning of the particular Planet involved?

Conjunction with the ASC and Planet in the 1st House (especially if the same sign) are not that much different, but except in degree of intensity.

Ascendant/1st House represents a combination of the physical body and it's innate temperament and how the Soul streams through same in a spontaneous and immediate sense. The part of the body that the ASC rules is a great clue to the deeper meaning of the activity and focus of that person. I have Leo Rising, and for me the heart symbolically has a lot of significance. I'm aware that my Spirit in combo with my Soul has had a number of incarnations where I incarnated under Leo Rising for whatever reason(s) and with this strong focus on the heart. Both in the romance and "in love" sense, and also in the larger spiritual, bigger/more universal Love, and empathy sense.

When a person's Planet is in another person's 1st House, they tend to bring those energies of that planet strongly into the life and immediate perception of the ASC person. So for example, if I met someone with Leo Mars in my 1st House, Mars oriented feelings, patterns, and activities would like be stimulated both within me and that person, and within the Leo background/context.

Mars deals with raw physical energy, activeness, lust/sexual energy, anger/wrath, hard feelings, courage, annoyance/intolerance, etc.

Now, if we're two straight dudes, it's probably going to be rather different than if we are of opposite genders and similar age range who could possibly sexually attracted to each other--especially since in a straightish female's chart, Mars (along with Sun and 7th) represents what she is attracted to in a male.

If two straight men, anger and competition might more easily become a more likely pattern/dynamic.

So if the person is female and under that, she might be strongly attracted in a very raw, sexual way to my type of body, looks, and basic vibe. But issues of anger or domination could also still easily come up at times, where one or both aren't understanding enough of the other.

If her Mars is also conjunct my ASC degree, then these dyanmics/patterns will be particularly highlighted.

The person I've been over talking about here and pining over, happens to have Leo Mars (ruler of her Sun and 8th and co-ruler of her Moon) almost exactly conjunct my ASC, as well as opposite my Venus. Her Pisces Venus-Saturn (ruler of her 5th) conjunction is in my 8th, and widely opposed my Virgo Mars Jupiter (ruler of 5th and co ruler of 8th) conjunction, and opposed my Virgo Saturn.

Then, my Virgo Jupiter (ruler of 5th and co-ruler of 8th) Mars conjunction is closely conjunct her ASC.

This is the subset of our synastric patterns that indicates there is a very strong 1st and 2nd center connection--i.e. a VERY strong mutual sexual attraction, and with a tendency of some anger to come up between us.

On our first date/meetup, I ended up rubbing her back, neck, and back of head with my fingers and hands, and it felt like she was melting into my touch--much like the saying, "they have become puddy in my hands". When I looked at her she looked completely blissed out.

Before that, while talking she was gazing deep in my eyes as if she was high on E/Molly, and blurted out, "I'm sorry I keep staring at you, you're just so nice to look at" (and I don't consider myself especially physically attractive).

She was so strongly attracted to me that she ended up resisting this connection very strongly. Part due to past sexual trauma, control issues she has in general, and the specific past life pain/hurt between us.

posted January 23, 2020 09:36 AM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
Thank you for your input 😊 I understand. It's my Saturn and Uranus in Sagittarius in the persons first house It’s in the same sign. But it’s not conjunct to their ASC. I’ve read that Saturn falling in someones first house can be binding but I wasn’t sure since it’s not actually conjunct their ASC.

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Saturn can indicate a kind of binding, but it's most often a binding that is related to a sense of duty (often related to karma) or fear in some way, such as fear of loss and/or general insecurity.

Generally speaking, I would interpret this as you will tend to bring to this person challenges, lessons, difficulties, etc (probably via inducing in them insecurity and/or sudden, unforeseen upsetting changes, and probably some vice versa) that will be particularly extreme in nature. I imagine this would be a connection that would tend to be filled with high highs and low lows and very little in between/moderate and balanced--basically a yo-yo of a relationship with a potential for definite drama.

Often when Saturn figures in prominently, there is karmic (or spiritual growth lesson) issues underneath the connection. This can be the reason for the binding initially, because you need to work stuff out with each other.

If such challenges can be overcome by mutual love and respect, then the biding can turn into a positive one of "wow, we've been through a lot together and have learned to be there for each other." but unfortunately this is definitely more rare, but very strong Sun, Jupiter, Venus, and/or Neptune interconnections (especially with each other) often indicate a greater trend towards moving towards the long term positive expression.

The good news is that it's all taking place in the sign of Sagittarius. It helps to counter balance the heaviness of Saturn and the extremes of Uranus some. Planet energy is stronger and more concentrated than Sign energy, and so those same basic issues and tendencies will still be there, and there will still be a heaviness (via a background insecurity and/or pain) or at least a seriousness to the interaction, but it will be a bit lighter than if was in almost any other sign.

And it may be that you two could come to have a deeper, philosophical or spiritual understanding of the reason for the connection, which can help to introduce a measure of tolerance and understanding for each other. That is, if both parties choose to be more mature about things.

I dated a couple of people whose Saturn, Uranus, and Neptune in Sagittarius fell in or near my 5th House, and they eventually brought me pain/heart ache. One of these, an ex, broke up with me within a week or two after my mom dying of cancer. While it wasn't the greatest timing on her part, it is a good thing that we did break up as it was a karmic connection and one based on a kind of falseness (neediness, insecurity, etc i.e. a co-dependent on both sides relationship).

It may be weird to hear, but strong Saturn synastric connections can actually indicate strong attraction within a larger context of other, more traditionally attractive patterns (such as involving Venus, Mars, 7th, 5th, 8th, etc). This is because our Expanded/Spirit self levels know that without strong initial attraction, we'ed likely not ever get with people that we have difficult karma with or have lessons to bring or receive from such relationships.

So these levels of ourselves plot behind the conscious scenes using things like strong attraction to get us together in the first place. Uranus being involved in the pattern would only increase this.

I know, not what you want to hear. But if I may be direct and give some unsasked for advice, take it from someone who was a hopeless romantic and co-dependent for some years, and thought they could find happiness, fulfillment, and completion in a relationship (Libra Moon, Leo Rising, and Venus in the 7th).

You can't. It can only be found within (and often comes about via true and full self love and positive service to others in a more universal sense). Once you find and nurture it within yourself, you're more likely to find/attract a more healthy, balanced person than not without, that you can share your respective individual happiness's with. That is when relationships work best. Considering how many posts you start about possible romantic interests and romantic interests and romance in general, it's very clear that you are like how I use to be.

I say this with love and not to hurt you, because while I don't know you, I care about you (in a universal, impersonal Pisces-Aquarius sense) and want to see you truly happy and fulfilled.

If there was a p.m. system here, I would have wrote the latter in a p.m. but alas, there isn't.

Just try being alone for awhile and delving into and knowing yourself better, and working on yourself. It was after I did this myself, that I ended up attracting and running into my Twin Soul. But I needed to go through that period of conscious and deliberate staying away from romance and relationships and just working on myself to get there. Probably wouldn't have happened if I hadn't done that.

posted January 23, 2020 12:49 PM            

7th House is more about what you attract and are attracted to, rather than a core trait of self, in and of itself. It's a polarized-opposite reflection of self you could say. Few people come to fully consciously integrate the 7th by themselves/alone, but tend to do so more through closer relationships and with people with those traits strong in their core self.

I'm not saying that you don't have some awareness of these issues, but I do get a sense of over attachment to relationships, especially in the romance sense. Nor am I saying it's a bad thing either. In other words, I'm not trying to judge or put you down at all. You seem like a lovely person from what I can tell.

And I agree with you, we are meant to be involved with others in various different ways.

This is partly related to how and why I talked about Saturn in relation to attraction (which astrologers rarely talk about), and how it's related to needing to work on karma and/or lessons for one or both of the people involved.

It's all part of the growth process, and most of us, on a Soul level especially, are trying to grow.

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I'm not sure that having someone's Saturn, Uranus and Neptune in your 5th house is automatically an indication of heartbreak. It could also mean that the Saturn person wants a serious relationship with the house person

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Yes, agreed, it doesn't necessarily have to manifest in that way. It takes a whole chart approach to figure out.

But have you ever asked, what's really behind Saturn's seriousness, or say Jupiter's joy? They come from radically different places. I would posit that in a very core sense, Saturn's over seriousness comes most often from a place of fear, selfishness, and separativeness. This is why Saturn has such a hard time being light hearted, joyous, forgiving, letting go, etc.

Isn't that an interesting term, "light hearted". Maybe it's a clue to the deeper meaning--a heart full of Light? Maybe when one's heart is full of Light and Love, one becomes fearless, and when one becomes fearless, one's heart begins to feel lighter and lighter, and more and more joyous?

Perhaps related, Edgar Cayce's guidance said that Yeshua ("Jesus") was cracking jokes and making light of the situation on his way to Calvary (and this is what most angered the authorities involved in setting him up). Can you imagine that, making jokes and making light hearted fun of the situation and the people putting you in same, as you know you are walking to your extreme torture and murder?

posted January 23, 2020 07:52 PM            

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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion:
What do you think it means?

What does the Ascendant mean?

What is the symbolism and meaning of the particular Planet involved?

Conjunction with the ASC and Planet in the 1st House (especially if the same sign) are not that much different, but except in degree of intensity.

Ascendant/1st House represents a combination of the physical body and it's innate temperament and how the Soul streams through same in a spontaneous and immediate sense. The part of the body that the ASC rules is a great clue to the deeper meaning of the activity and focus of that person. I have Leo Rising, and for me the heart symbolically has a lot of significance. I'm aware that my Spirit in combo with my Soul has had a number of incarnations where I incarnated under Leo Rising for whatever reason(s) and with this strong focus on the heart. Both in the romance and "in love" sense, and also in the larger spiritual, bigger/more universal Love, and empathy sense.

When a person's Planet is in another person's 1st House, they tend to bring those energies of that planet strongly into the life and immediate perception of the ASC person. So for example, if I met someone with Leo Mars in my 1st House, Mars oriented feelings, patterns, and activities would like be stimulated both within me and that person, and within the Leo background/context.

Mars deals with raw physical energy, activeness, lust/sexual energy, anger/wrath, hard feelings, courage, annoyance/intolerance, etc.

Now, if we're two straight dudes, it's probably going to be rather different than if we are of opposite genders and similar age range who could possibly sexually attracted to each other--especially since in a straightish female's chart, Mars (along with Sun and 7th) represents what she is attracted to in a male.

If two straight men, anger and competition might more easily become a more likely pattern/dynamic.

So if the person is female and under that, she might be strongly attracted in a very raw, sexual way to my type of body, looks, and basic vibe. But issues of anger or domination could also still easily come up at times, where one or both aren't understanding enough of the other.

If her Mars is also conjunct my ASC degree, then these dyanmics/patterns will be particularly highlighted.

The person I've been over talking about here and pining over, happens to have Leo Mars (ruler of her Sun and 8th and co-ruler of her Moon) almost exactly conjunct my ASC, as well as opposite my Venus. Her Pisces Venus-Saturn (ruler of her 5th) conjunction is in my 8th, and widely opposed my Virgo Mars Jupiter (ruler of 5th and co ruler of 8th) conjunction, and opposed my Virgo Saturn.

Then, my Virgo Jupiter (ruler of 5th and co-ruler of 8th) Mars conjunction is closely conjunct her ASC.

This is the subset of our synastric patterns that indicates there is a very strong 1st and 2nd center connection--i.e. a VERY strong mutual sexual attraction, and with a tendency of some anger to come up between us.

On our first date/meetup, I ended up rubbing her back, neck, and back of head with my fingers and hands, and it felt like she was melting into my touch--much like the saying, "they have become puddy in my hands". When I looked at her she looked completely blissed out.

Before that, while talking she was gazing deep in my eyes as if she was high on E/Molly, and blurted out, "I'm sorry I keep staring at you, you're just so nice to look at" (and I don't consider myself especially physically attractive).

She was so strongly attracted to me that she ended up resisting this connection very strongly. Part due to past sexual trauma, control issues she has in general, and the specific past life pain/hurt between us.

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Wow very interesting...
What about Venus and Neptune? In other person’s 1st? Which is also the secondary 5th house of the other person?

And Venus is the 7th house ruler of the Venus/Neptune person.. and Neptune is the 5th house ruler of the Venus /nep person

posted January 24, 2020 10:57 AM            

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Originally posted by Sinder:
Wow very interesting...
What about Venus and Neptune? In other person’s 1st? Which is also the secondary 5th house of the other person?

And Venus is the 7th house ruler of the Venus/Neptune person.. and Neptune is the 5th house ruler of the Venus /nep person

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I'm not sure about the secondary 5th House comment, but I'll address the rest of it.

Something that Venus, Neptune, the 5th House, and 7th House all have in common is the perception, appreciation of, and attraction to beauty (though on somewhat different levels and with different "flavors"). There are some differences--Neptune is more about inner beauty and Venus a bit more oriented to outer beauty i.e. the beauty of form (but she also does appreciate the beauty of fruits of the Spirit some as well, such as kindness, positivity, friendliness, etc. It's that she is rather easily distracted by shiny beautiful things, whether in attractive and/or charming bodies, jewelry, art, etc at the same time).

Without knowing the full chart comparison, or the individual attunement of the two respective people, I would say as a tendency, this would tend to indicate that the Venus-Neptune person tends to find the 1st House person very beautiful and attractive in some way. It won't necessarily be sexual, in and of itself (Mars, 8th, Pluto, etc can indicate it being also very sexual), but almost an idealization of their inner and/or outer beauty, as if the person was a living piece of beautiful art or music. Can easily feel the feelings of falling in love with such a person.

We of course tend to want to be around people that stimulate such lovely and sublime feelings, perceptions and reactions in us. We like basking in this strongly "right brain" like overwhelming of logic, criticality, difference perceiving...again much like being moved by a song, poem, or piece of art that we find especially beautiful and moving.

It will be more intense for the Venus-Neptune person if they otherwise also have a strong attunement to Venus and/or Neptune. But here's the thing. The ASC/1st House in general is the most sensitive and amplifying symbol of the chart par excellence. It's like a giant magnifying lens, and any Planets near same become very highlighted (speaking more in the Natal sense, but it does also apply some to the Synastric as well).
So, even if the Venus Neptune person isn't particularly strongly attuned to these, the 1st House person will tend to sort of bring it out of them more than otherwise (if in the 5th House, it would be similar as well, but with a more specific romantic and/or sexual vibe stronger, and not quite as strong in the general sense). Much like how when the Moon is on the horizon and looks HUGE (the horizon corresponds to the ASC-7th axis i.e. where the Heavens touch/meet the Earth symbolically).

Besides most, most likely enjoying the attention of such rose colored glasses in relation to them (and the ego propping/puffing it can bring), the 1st House person will tend to have some of this energy interaction reflected back. They will tend to see beauty, both inner and outer, in the Venus-Neptune person too, though just not as intensely as the Venus-Neptune. It's sort of like the light of the Sun vs the light of the Moon. In this case, the Venus-Neptune person is shining their direct light on the ASC person, and the ASC person like the Moon is reflecting some of it back--but in a softer, less intense and direct way.

One would hope that there would be more grounded, discriminating, practical, and logical oriented connections going on at the same time, such as Mercury, Earth Signs, and maybe even a little pinch of more harmoniously connected Saturn.

Because otherwise, such a dynamic could be too rose colored glasses, and if one or both of the individuals have some woundedness and self-or other destructive tendencies (especially if the ASC person), these could be overly masked, looked over, or seen to some extent but too easily forgiven (forgiveness and looking over is a important and necessary process, but if taken too far and one becomes a doormat or allows self to overly be taken advantage of at their detriment, then it becomes a problem and hindrance). It's great stuff for a fantasy or romance novel type connection, but not necessarily for a real relationship in a world that tends to be more harsh than not.

For example of the worst case scenario of such a dynamic/pattern. Say a woman with a lot of empathy comes upon this physically attractive and charming male, and her Venus-Neptune falls in his 1st. At first, he love bombs her, makes her feel special, and validates her perception of beauty in him. But say that underneath this outer charm and attractiveness, this man is a cold hearted crocodile type (i.e. towards the malignant narcissistic and/or psychopathic) in other words, a predator who preys on open hearted, empathic women that are also kind of naive and overly trusting.

It will likely end very badly for her. Chances are, her love will not change him for the better, as some folks are just incapable (in this lifetime) of truly loving others.

Granted, this is a somewhat extreme scenario, and yet, happens too often in my book. It can happen vice versa with the genders reversed or same of course (I do think it's a bit more common with a man taking advantage of a woman though). Johnny Depp and Amber Heard is a great example of that. The latter being a total malignant narcissist and Depp being the overly trusting, open hearted, and in love with an projected illusion, person who got played, deceived, manipulated at the hands of a person who never actually loved him to begin with. (Besides my very developed intuition that screams at me about her and her issues, her side of the story has a lot of fishy holes in it logic wise too, especially the weird communications of her parents with Depp). "Ain't saying she's a gold diggah, but she aint messen with no broke ...." (lol, actually I am saying she is).

posted January 24, 2020 12:25 PM            

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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion:
I'm not sure about the secondary 5th House comment, but I'll address the rest of it.

Something that Venus, Neptune, the 5th House, and 7th House all have in common is the perception, appreciation of, and attraction to beauty (though on somewhat different levels and with different "flavors"). There are some differences--Neptune is more about inner beauty and Venus a bit more oriented to outer beauty i.e. the beauty of form (but she also does appreciate the beauty of fruits of the Spirit some as well, such as kindness, positivity, friendliness, etc. It's that she is rather easily distracted by shiny beautiful things, whether in attractive and/or charming bodies, jewelry, art, etc at the same time).

Without knowing the full chart comparison, or the individual attunement of the two respective people, I would say as a tendency, this would tend to indicate that the Venus-Neptune person tends to find the 1st House person very beautiful and attractive in some way. It won't necessarily be sexual, in and of itself (Mars, 8th, Pluto, etc can indicate it being also very sexual), but almost an idealization of their inner and/or outer beauty, as if the person was a living piece of beautiful art or music. Can easily feel the feelings of falling in love with such a person.

We of course tend to want to be around people that stimulate such lovely and sublime feelings, perceptions and reactions in us. We like basking in this strongly "right brain" like overwhelming of logic, criticality, difference perceiving...again much like being moved by a song, poem, or piece of art that we find especially beautiful and moving.

It will be more intense for the Venus-Neptune person if they otherwise also have a strong attunement to Venus and/or Neptune. But here's the thing. The ASC/1st House in general is the most sensitive and amplifying symbol of the chart par excellence. It's like a giant magnifying lens, and any Planets near same become very highlighted (speaking more in the Natal sense, but it does also apply some to the Synastric as well).
So, even if the Venus Neptune person isn't particularly strongly attuned to these, the 1st House person will tend to sort of bring it out of them more than otherwise (if in the 5th House, it would be similar as well, but with a more specific romantic and/or sexual vibe stronger, and not quite as strong in the general sense). Much like how when the Moon is on the horizon and looks HUGE (the horizon corresponds to the ASC-7th axis i.e. where the Heavens touch/meet the Earth symbolically).

Besides most, most likely enjoying the attention of such rose colored glasses in relation to them (and the ego propping/puffing it can bring), the 1st House person will tend to have some of this energy interaction reflected back. They will tend to see beauty, both inner and outer, in the Venus-Neptune person too, though just not as intensely as the Venus-Neptune. It's sort of like the light of the Sun vs the light of the Moon. In this case, the Venus-Neptune person is shining their direct light on the ASC person, and the ASC person like the Moon is reflecting some of it back--but in a softer, less intense and direct way.

One would hope that there would be more grounded, discriminating, practical, and logical oriented connections going on at the same time, such as Mercury, Earth Signs, and maybe even a little pinch of more harmoniously connected Saturn.

Because otherwise, such a dynamic could be too rose colored glasses, and if one or both of the individuals have some woundedness and self-or other destructive tendencies (especially if the ASC person), these could be overly masked, looked over, or seen to some extent but too easily forgiven (forgiveness and looking over is a important and necessary process, but if taken too far and one becomes a doormat or allows self to overly be taken advantage of at their detriment, then it becomes a problem and hindrance). It's great stuff for a fantasy or romance novel type connection, but not necessarily for a real relationship in a world that tends to be more harsh than not.

For example of the worst case scenario of such a dynamic/pattern. Say a woman with a lot of empathy comes upon this physically attractive and charming male, and her Venus-Neptune falls in his 1st. At first, he love bombs her, makes her feel special, and validates her perception of beauty in him. But say that underneath this outer charm and attractiveness, this man is a cold hearted crocodile type (i.e. towards the malignant narcissistic and/or psychopathic) in other words, a predator who preys on open hearted, empathic women that are also kind of naive and overly trusting.

It will likely end very badly for her. Chances are, her love will not change him for the better, as some folks are just incapable (in this lifetime) of truly loving others.

Granted, this is a somewhat extreme scenario, and yet, happens too often in my book. It can happen vice versa with the genders reversed or same of course (I do think it's a bit more common with a man taking advantage of a woman though). Johnny Depp and Amber Heard is a great example of that. The latter being a total malignant narcissist and Depp being the overly trusting, open hearted, and in love with an projected illusion, person who got played, deceived, manipulated at the hands of a person who never actually loved him to begin with. (Besides my very developed intuition that screams at me about her and her issues, her side of the story has a lot of fishy holes in it logic wise too, especially the weird communications of her parents with Depp). "Ain't saying she's a gold diggah, but she aint messen with no broke ...." (lol, actually I am saying she is).

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posted January 25, 2020 01:20 AM            

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Originally posted by Sinder:

Wow you are really detailed and great!
What do you think of asteriods? And Duad/Dwad?
The Neptune/Venus person’s Uranus is exactly conj the 1st house person’s asc

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Thank you Sinder, but I think the term/description you're really looking for is "overly pedantic"

(Oy vey, all this Jupiter plus all this Capricorn tends to lead to humor of the self depreciating kind.)

Ah, throwing Uranus into the mix now. Well, 3 words that really sum of Uranus is that of the extremes, the unusual, and the psychic. What do I mean about extremes. There is something innately bi-polar like about strong/highlighted Uranus. One moment, day, or week Uranus is on cloud 9 in the heavens, and the next moment, day, or week, it's in the very depths of despair--all life is useless and "life is pain", etc.

Or, say an Uranian likes movies. They may go to the movies 4 times a week, for 3 weeks straight, why, because they like movies and don't have much of a sense of moderation, balance, etc. This inner lack of proportion and somewhat OCD'ness, is what leads to the oft used descriptive of "eccentric", or "crank" in relation to Uranus and Uranians.

So, since it's closest to the other person's ASC, this gets brought more to the fore than even the Venus-Neptune most likely. But let's go back to the basics of sums. Both Uranus and Neptune share a similarity of psychicness/intuition, an attraction to mystery/the hidden, metaphysics, spirituality, etc.

The ASC person could help to bring out the more psychic-intuitive, and/or spiritual side of the Uranus--Venus/Neptune person, especially if the background Sign also supports that--say Scorpio through to Pisces signs (yes, even including old stuffy, hard nosed Capricorn, which definitely does have an intuitive side).

A tendency towards extremes may also develop between them, as hinted at earlier. But, the good news is that Venus is inherently a balancer and moderation inducing type indication. She could help to tone down/counter balance some of the more extreme extremes of Uranus in such a case. Especially so if the sign of Libra is also involved.

But meanwhile, the ASC person might be, "why you being all melodramatic like" to the Uranus person some. Could make them feel a bit uncomfortable at times. And the Uranus person might be wondering the same thing, "what the heck is going on with me, I'm not usually like this?" (lol unless they are, i.e. strongly attuned to Uranus natally). What could also make them feel uncomfortable is the combination of Uranus/Neptune person almost reading their thoughts at times.

If the ASC person is inclined towards metaphysics, spirituality, etc themselves, then they could really enjoy exploring such topics together. But if not, and they are far more grounded, the ASC person might find the other person overly "weird", "out there", or "ungrounded". Which, at times might actually be at least somewhat the case. `Uranus being one of the most "crank" oriented symbols there are.

I have not been called to delve into asteroids, duads, etc. I like mastering the main symbols and basics, and honing the craft within a limited structure, first. I have looked a bit at Chiron here and there since there has been so much hoopla around same (and it's closely conjunct my MC and trine my Jupiter and Mercury).

So far, I find asteroids to correlate with rather minor and very specific notes, that if astrology and doing a chart was akin to eating a complex, flavorful soup, then asteroids would be like the tiny hint of marjoram in a dish that was loaded with basil, oregano, thyme. i.e., barely detectable in relation to the main and predominant flavors and not necessarily integral to the dish--but could add a little subtle something depending.

posted January 25, 2020 01:26 AM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
There are positive and negative things about every placement. Saturn in the 5th house could indicate that the Saturn person wants to have a serious relationship with the house person. Uranus in the 5th house could mean that the Uranus person helps the house person with creativity. Neptune in the 5th house can indicate a romantic connection between the planet and the house person. Those overlays may not be the reason why those people hurt or decided to break up with you.

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posted January 25, 2020 03:04 AM            

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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion:
Thank you Sinder, but I think the term/description you're really looking for is "overly pedantic"

(Oy vey, all this Jupiter plus all this Capricorn tends to lead to humor of the self depreciating kind.)

Ah, throwing Uranus into the mix now. Well, 3 words that really sum of Uranus is that of the extremes, the unusual, and the psychic. What do I mean about extremes. There is something innately bi-polar like about strong/highlighted Uranus. One moment, day, or week Uranus is on cloud 9 in the heavens, and the next moment, day, or week, it's in the very depths of despair--all life is useless and "life is pain", etc.

Or, say an Uranian likes movies. They may go to the movies 4 times a week, for 3 weeks straight, why, because they like movies and don't have much of a sense of moderation, balance, etc. This inner lack of proportion and somewhat OCD'ness, is what leads to the oft used descriptive of "eccentric", or "crank" in relation to Uranus and Uranians.

So, since it's closest to the other person's ASC, this gets brought more to the fore than even the Venus-Neptune most likely. But let's go back to the basics of sums. Both Uranus and Neptune share a similarity of psychicness/intuition, an attraction to mystery/the hidden, metaphysics, spirituality, etc.

The ASC person could help to bring out the more psychic-intuitive, and/or spiritual side of the Uranus--Venus/Neptune person, especially if the background Sign also supports that--say Scorpio through to Pisces signs (yes, even including old stuffy, hard nosed Capricorn, which definitely does have an intuitive side).

A tendency towards extremes may also develop between them, as hinted at earlier. But, the good news is that Venus is inherently a balancer and moderation inducing type indication. She could help to tone down/counter balance some of the more extreme extremes of Uranus in such a case. Especially so if the sign of Libra is also involved.

But meanwhile, the ASC person might be, "why you being all melodramatic like" to the Uranus person some. Could make them feel a bit uncomfortable at times. And the Uranus person might be wondering the same thing, "what the heck is going on with me, I'm not usually like this?" (lol unless they are, i.e. strongly attuned to Uranus natally). What could also make them feel uncomfortable is the combination of Uranus/Neptune person almost reading their thoughts at times.

If the ASC person is inclined towards metaphysics, spirituality, etc themselves, then they could really enjoy exploring such topics together. But if not, and they are far more grounded, the ASC person might find the other person overly "weird", "out there", or "ungrounded". Which, at times might actually be at least somewhat the case. `Uranus being one of the most "crank" oriented symbols there are.

I have not been called to delve into asteroids, duads, etc. I like mastering the main symbols and basics, and honing the craft within a limited structure, first. I have looked a bit at Chiron here and there since there has been so much hoopla around same (and it's closely conjunct my MC and trine my Jupiter and Mercury).

So far, I find asteroids to correlate with rather minor and very specific notes, that if astrology and doing a chart was akin to eating a complex, flavorful soup, then asteroids would be like the tiny hint of marjoram in a dish that was loaded with basil, oregano, thyme. i.e., barely detectable in relation to the main and predominant flavors and not necessarily integral to the dish--but could add a little subtle something depending.

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No no no.. I actually really enjoy reading this!
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So the Uranus person would be seem like a wierd one unless the asc person is also in tuned with the spiritual metaphysical side.. they are.. and yes it’s in Scorp
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posted January 29, 2020 10:17 AM            

"So far, I find asteroids to correlate with rather minor and very specific notes, that if astrology and doing a chart was akin to eating a complex, flavorful soup, then asteroids would be like the tiny hint of marjoram in a dish that was loaded with basil, oregano, thyme. i.e., barely detectable in relation to the main and predominant flavors and not necessarily integral to the dish--but could add a little subtle something depending."