posted January 31, 2020 07:40 AM            

We are both single parents with full custody of our girls.
I have two toddlers, he has one toddler girl he’s raising by himself, and two older children from a previous marriage.
Our connection is intense and we are both feeling this is it for us now.
We speak for hours on the phone each night as we are trying to take things slowly. We have dates when our kids are at nursery in the mornings a few times a week.

We have lots of strange things in common, we both have a daughter with the same name.
His eldest boy is called the name I always wanted to call mine!?
Our two girls, the one he had custody over is born the day after my Jenna. Lucky his youngest daughter isn’t the one called Jenna too, that would have been very confusing lol. It’s quite an uncommon name here in the UK.
We are basically living the same life right now with being a lone parent and seem to have the same values and needs from a relationship.
A lot of our belongings are exactly the same which is strange. If feels very fated and he keeps joking let’s just skip the next few years and get married already.

Please see what you think of our charts and if what We are both feeling has some potential to be a long loving relationship.
Our kids met for the first time yesterday and my girls adored him.

His natal
[img]https://i.postimg.cc/H8mDjLbS/A727-FE6-A-731-C-4-B42-8124-C7779-DEAD5-E1.png[/img]

My natal
[img]https://i.postimg.cc/NKHfgXg1/2604497-C-7-C61-4-AF6-B0-BB-9-E74760-F360-C.png[/img]

Our synastry
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Composite
[img]https://i.postimg.cc/30T2Bhnq/61-DFB0-AA-E45-E-4-BF9-814-A-6-E54926-C8-AF0.png[/img]

Davison
[img]https://i.postimg.cc/n9r9TLq0/873705-CB-51-BB-435-F-8611-DC0447-A9-C8-DD.png[/img]

Birth times accurate. This feels like the real deal and I hope our charts look promising.

posted January 31, 2020 09:43 AM            

The uncorrected Davison Chart has Leo/Aquarius intercepted in 8th/2nd houses.

posted January 31, 2020 11:19 AM            

I welcome anyone who wants respond.

Can you tell me what you mean about the trapped signs? I have no experience with reading Davison charts. As much as I try to there is little information I can find online about them, and whether corrected or uncorrected is the best way of interpreting them.

Please do share your overall impression of our charts, and whether you can enlighten me a little on our Davison and the relationship chart in general.

Many thanks

Also I forgot to add in a few people I would love to hear from.
@sassaqua @comdoc @ChildofVenus @Bismarck2

Really looking to hearing from you all.!
Im hoping the soft aspects, including the lovely parallels we have going on are enough to outweigh the hard ones and 12th house composite energies.
I do like a challenge in a relationship, and it things will be difficult for us with children involved, but I feel he’s worth the trouble.

I am weary of so much fire energy, especially Leo. But as my Juno is Leo perhaps this is the sort of man I should marry.?
I seem to attract Plutonian types also but I think my DC has something to do with that.
I’m usually scared of such a strong character, expressing so much depth and wanting commitment from me. I think my lack of fire energy and my T-square in my natal I need someone fiery to help me unlock that trapped energy in my own chart. I see he opens up my t-square in my natal in our synastry, but unable to interpret this myself as it’s beyond my level of understanding.

I notice I’m not aspecting his Venus as much as I would like; but my planets are sitting in his relationship houses which is promising.
Our mercury there is some hard aspects going on, but I feel there are lots of good stuff going on too here with our murcury’s and the fact we both have our Venus in Gemini gives us a lot of genuine respect for each other and understanding what the other needs to feel loved.

Our ascendants trining and the lovely sun sextile moon & mars sextile Venus. All good basic stuff going on there.

I’d love you all to dig a little deeper, my experience with composites is still basic.

posted January 31, 2020 04:52 PM            

And, let’s just say his TOB IS accurate, with all the 12 house stuff and the sun opp Neptune... he’s probably the one deceiving you. Sun in 12th is notoriously common in affairs/secret relationships, he could have someone else on the side so be careful. 12th house is hidden enemies.. self undoing. This relationship with him could go south really easy (he’s not who he says or who you think he is, he’s hiding things from you) and it could be detrimental to you in some way (that’s the self-undoing part), and also the 12th is imbalance, like I said you don’t match any of his love houses so he wouldn’t be interested in you feelings wise if this is accurate birthtime. So then we have to wonder, why is he pretending to or bothering with you? What’s the real motive.... and in that case, I’m not surprised with the heavy 12th stuff of secrets, illusion, hidden enemies etc.

So, I would ask to see his B.C or try find out what his TOB is forsure somehow. And play it safe. Take your time truly getting to know him. It seems like you really want to find someone, but don’t rush it or settle for anything or be too gullible in your haste. Pay attention to any red flags as well, trust your gut.

posted January 31, 2020 08:52 PM            

this Composite gives me mixed feelings... There might be great affection and intimacy with Sun/Chiron/Venus and Cupid/Pluto trine Mercury/Mars, it seems you're on the same page and you might have a hot and emotional chemistry with Mars/ASC and Sun/Amor trine Moon/Pluto... also, with North Node/Jupiter conjunct MC one would expect this to be long term. The Nodes on the MC/IC axis might show why you have those similarities/synchronicities and look familiar to each other.
The Pluto/Moon conjunction gives very intense feelings of belonging together.

But Sun Chiron and Venus are in the 12th house, especially Chiron and Venus are usually in a painful place here as a real emotional bond would be difficult to be established, and Neptune is square to Jupiter/NN/MC, so this really looks like a "false promise". the Neptune/Jupiter square is a bit wide so I don't think there's intentional deception, maybe things just don't seem like they really are, but Neptune square NN and MC is usually sign that there's no certainty and clarity about the future of the relationship. Saturn trine Jupiter and Jupiter sextile Venus actually look like a love and devoted bond can be established... but still with Venus in 12th there's the feeling that things might not take off the ground as one would expect.
North Node/MC is quincuncx to Pluto and South Node is conjunct IC, which might block the situation somehow as the two might actually have complete different ideas on the relationship future.

posted February 01, 2020 01:03 PM            

I am sorry I realise it is my relationship houses he is hitting and not so good from my side, you are correct there may be inaccurate birth times going on.
His mum told him that was the time he was born, so if anything his TOB is more likely to be accurate than mine.

I’m going off my dad telling me I was born at sunrise and unable to gather anymore information for my own TOB, I had recently adjusted my guesstimate from 6am to 5:07 which is the sunrise time for my DOB. As suggested from a member here on the forum my time of birth seemed off. (Perhaps it was you! Hehe)

As it stands he seems more invested in me at the moment and keeps telling me he wants to skip this getting to know stage and get married and be a family together. We are both lone parents, with girls born a day apart, and we don’t have much contact with the other parent. Totally going through the same things and both feeling that lack in having a broken family unit.

I will stay aware of this after your advice and be sure we want eachother, not just longing for the family.
He seems to offer me the emotional support and stablity I’m looking for in a partner, (moon sextile moon - we Still have this aspect as well as our Venuses in The same sign regardless of birth times) I have a lot of respect for him being a soldier for many years before raising his toddler, he’s a very good dad and just the sound of his voice turns me on.

Your comment should make me reconsider, but I cannot wait to sleep with him 😊 and we’ve said when we do then we are going to put a label on it and be official.
He’s told me plenty he wants to be my partner already but I’ve been telling him let’s see what happens. I’m just enjoying how things are going so far and my cheekbones haven’t stopped hurting since the start.
His Juno in libra conjunct my moon, and his sun, Mercury, mars in Leo conjunct my Juno.

I do tend to agree with Stolka that regardless of the house placements of our composite, those oppositions to Neptune and Uranus are rather wide and I don’t see any deception going on there.
Composite moon/Pluto seems strong in the chart and Venus making a sextile to Jupiter looks promising to me. I will try and focus on the good obviously because I like him so much.

@stolka,
Thanks for your interpretation. Exactly the same impression I have on our composite chart. A real mixed bag, but some genuine potential for lasting love is felt by us both. A definite feeling of belonging to one another.
I have corrected by TOB back to the original 6am I was told by my grandmother before getting a more accurate time from my dad. Well, one of them is probably right lol.

Still; our north node would still be widely conjunct the MC with Jupiter sitting exactly on the MC Axis, then Venus would be in the 11th house composite and still sextile Jupiter, tightly conjunct ceres and the moon sextile Neptune and the vertex.
Hopefully that would make up for the sun opposite Neptune.? And Neptune also conjunct the vertex.

Appreciate your time guys and girls.
I will have a look at what our synastry looks like with my 6am TOB. I am still a libra moon regardless, but either Taurus or Gemini ascendant, which is difficult to decide what seems more fitting as I am a Taurus sun/Gemini Venus. A difference between 1st house placements within my own chart or lots of 12th.

posted February 01, 2020 10:59 PM            

Neptune does NOT necessarily mean deception. 12th house composite also does NOT necessarily indicate an affair/secret relationship. My friend has two 12H relationships - one in which she was married for 10yrs with 2 kids; another she's still in for 3+yrs now (living together). There's nothing secretive about both her relationships. She has natal 12H Sun and both her partners also have natal 12H Suns so I guess this explains.

But having said that, 12H relationships can be difficult as in there's always something clouding...like you're in a fog. In my friend's case, both relationships appear toxic and people can tell, except her (lol). A lot of co-dependency and subtle manipulation, so just watch out for such tendencies because very likely you will not be able to see it while it's so obvious to others. Furthermore, you have cNeptune opposition cSun square cMC. I don't think this means cheating but it may manifest in having no clear direction of the relationship and you may mislead each other, because Neptune is highly idealistic so you may put out a fake front that's not true to yourselves and have unrealistic, self-projected images of each other and the relationship itself. This is dangerous as what follows will be disappointment because.... we're not perfect. The veils will come off.

My advice would be to take it slow and get to know each other better first although I'm not sure if this is possible due to cUranus opp Sun/Venus. With Uranus, people tend to get very close very fast but the danger is you may cool off equally fast and abrupt as well, or the passion may likely go up & down.

However, you do have several aspects that promised a close, loving relationship - cSun trine Moon, cSun-Amor, cJupiter sextile Venus, cPluto trine Sun conjunct Moon, cNeptune sextile Moon. What matters is how you maximise the good and manage the bad.

posted February 02, 2020 06:02 AM            

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In the uncorrected Davison Chart, that same problem is preventing the qualities of Leo and Aquarius from being used effectively.

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posted February 02, 2020 09:16 AM            

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Hiya thanks Hikaru.
I believe his TOB to be correct. What I notice is we both have an empty 7th house in our natals, and I have my Uranus in his 7th and lots of 4th house stuff and Venus in the 1st. Would this cause the composite to manifest in this way? His 7th house cusp in cancer would show relationships are important to him, and he’s been married before. Mine being on the cusp of Sagittarius, which rules his natal moon:
Just food for thought. Keep on digging please guys

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I'm confused...he's the one with Sag Moon, right?? Then his Moon/Uranus are in your 7H but you have nothing in his 7H. In fact, nothing falling in his 5H or 8H as well. You do have planets in his 4H of familiarity & comfort but Neptune/Uranus are generational and they (+ your Saturn) don't rule any of your relationship houses which would've made a difference. If you're a Gemini ASC, then Saturn would rule your 8H but you're not sure of that, right? Perhaps you wanna do a chart rectification rather than doing guess work?

His 7H cusp is Pisces (where do you see Cancer?) with ruler Neptune in Capricorn. You have nothing in Pisces or 12H. You do have those Capricorn planets but like I said, Neptune/Uranus are generational + they don't rule any of your relationship houses... Neptune/Saturn opp Mars... IMO not strong enough to compensate for the lack of planets & aspects. His 7H ruler forms a square to your Moon and conjunct your Uranus, not much. Overall I don't see a high match to his 7H. If you do have a 12H Sun, it helps.

I know that you said he seems very interested but don't forget you're in infatuation phase now. I will not trust any love declaration during this stage of the relationship honestly. I'm not saying he's lying... what I mean is guys say all kinds of things when they're infatuated (haha) as this is the chasing phase, so give yourselves time to know each other. When you've seen the good, bad & ugly and still wanna be together, then go ahead.

posted February 09, 2020 07:04 PM            

your composite does reinforce all the comments you have made.

"We have lots of strange things in common"

"We are both feeling has some potential to be a long loving relationship"

"Our connection is intense and we are both feeling this is it for us now."

"A lot of our belongings are exactly the same which is strange. If feels very fated and he keeps joking let’s just skip the next few years and get married already."

every thing you said is a textbook example of the sun on the anti-vertex/vertex axis.
the venus/mars midpoint is also conjunct the anti vertex and the sun and the juno/Jupiter midpoint is also conjunct the anti-vertex et.al.
the vertex gives the strange coincides of your lives.often you have both had unusual,sometimes other worldly experiences or feelings that you would never think someone else could understand... but a you have found out ,they do. this aspect gives the sense of destiny because of these almost paranormal similarities.

the vertex adds intensity ot any planet it aspects so here with the sun.venus/mars conjunction ,you share a spontaneous love and with the juno/Jupiter midpoint conjunct also, the impulse for a marriage is immediate and intense.

but I have to add a cautionary note......the vertex is a energies from higher plane of consciousness and the vertex emcompasses many level of reality...the humancondition is just one plane of relity that the vertex influnces..the pointis tht much of the vertex energy is not of the earth plane... so the extreme intensity of your feelings are not all because of personal chemistry , but some of your intensity is not really yours and his....what I am trying to say is that the aspects to the vertex do not always fulfill their promise. it is very difficult to integrate the energy of the vertex into the human experiences.

I am bringing this up because I have never seen such a distinct vertex aspect that shows such intense love and marriage like this one.
the wild card is that the sense of destiny or karma is so strong that one could stop following one's common sense.

the vertex can addict one like a drug. one can be obsessive of such relationships. usually this is an important consideration when the relationship has difficult aspects. but as I said before I have never seen the vertex indicating such a intense loving impulse for marriage.

this composite looks exactly like what you are feeling .

I am really somewhat blown away and I need to look over your natals and this composite some more before I can offer a suggestion or judgement.

todd

posted February 10, 2020 07:50 PM            

the composite has Neptune square the node which can be tricky. it can indicate there are unspoken issues or hidden circumstances.

I also noticed that his mercury/Saturn midpoint is conjunct his juno and the transiting node was square to his juno currently. this would correlate with his suggestion to get married very soon.

I suggest not jumping the gun as he wants and take this slowly til you get to know him further. I don't think you should let the intensity force your hand right now.

the nodes is always conjunct the vertex because the earth is always on the vertex. so the Neptune /node square is reflective in some way of the entire vertex pattern. I think it is importsnt to get a handle on what might be being hidden as the node/Neptune square implies.

posted February 11, 2020 08:25 AM            

I still go into any love affair regardless of your advice and astrological compatibility yet you have been so spot on that it makes me more hesitant to give my heart away without seeking your opinion firstly.
After reading some disheartening posts from other members it has brightened my day to hear your take on our composite.
I think now I have reached my Saturn return I am finally feeling a longing for a stable, deep and lasting relationship. My airy disposition has lead me to pursue connections that weren’t the right fit for me, yet I have taken each one as a lesson and it has made me realise what qualities I do want in a life partner and those which I don’t.
It’s still early days but so far this man is meeting all the qualities that make me feel genuine respect and admiration for him, although I have much more to learn about him I sense this relationship could be meaningful and one I won’t forget lightly.

Please may I ask if you do find the time will you explore our composite a little deeper. I’m especially interested in the nodes conjunct the IC/MC Axis and if this adds to a sense of fatedness and perhaps longevity To our connection.

I’m hoping the vertex, midpoints and node/axis conjunctions will make up for our lack of Saturn glue.

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@hikaru,
Please tell me more about how I would go about doing a chart rectification.

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posted February 12, 2020 01:40 PM            

@Kannon will you be able to help me with a rectification?
And also would you mind giving me a percentage on the composite/synastry with your method.
Many thank You’s

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[.............many years ago you prewarned regarding my children’s father of how toxic things would be and that if he had alcohol addiction to run!

Please may I ask if you do find the time will you explore our composite a little deeper. I’m especially interested in the nodes conjunct the IC/MC Axis and if this adds to a sense of fatedness and perhaps longevity To our connection.

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the node at the MC can give a sense of destiny.with pysce conjunct to the node, there is a very spiritualfeeling to your attraction.

buti alreay mentioned, you must consider theneptune squr eto the node. in liht of previous realtiohsips, this could point to substance abuse issue affecting the spiritual direction of the relationship . I bring this up now because I noticed that the Saturn/Neptune midpoint is conjunct to Uranus and opposed to Jupiter, so this could be interpreted as substance issue as an element of any separations.the sun/Uranus brings intensity but it cn be very unstable.

todd