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PiscesQueen
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posted February 04, 2020 10:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PiscesQueen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi friends. This is my first post, I see everyone being SO helpful I’m hoping you can do the same with me. I study tarot, crystals, psychology in the past.. but my Astro charting is weak.

Sorry for the click bait. But it’s true. I spent 6 months with this man. It was a decent relationship. But the emotional rollicoster and stress really effected my body, my health, my spirit.. We both weren’t perfect significant others but because of my clairsentience, it effected me more.

It’s been 15 months since we split. I knew immediately when he broke up with his latest girlfriend because I could feel him thinking about me. We’re still very connected.

He’s resurfaced recently on my social media and I can feel him all the time now. I feel he has something to say, just hasn't gotten the courage yet. I want to be prepared, with mercury in pisces and the upcoming retrograde, plus my birthday. There’s many opportunities for an ex to come back.

Any info you can give on why it went so wrong, why we feel so connected, what he might say [for my psychics out there ] and do we have unfinished business? I’m open to any and all thoughts on this.

*attached is his chart & he’s red in the composite.
Thanks in advance!

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PiscesQueen
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posted February 04, 2020 10:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PiscesQueen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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LunaIscariot
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posted February 05, 2020 01:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LunaIscariot     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think the real question you should be asking here is why you want him back or why you’re concerned about him? Ex’s are always ex’s for a reason! Remember that reason. Plus You already acknowledged this was a toxic relationship and that it was so stressful and damaging to you that it was even affecting your physical body/health. This is a major red flag, you need to move on from this guy. Sounds like a tough karmic cycle you were in with him, and it’s up to you to break it by moving on with your life without him. Be strong and love yourself, and look out for your best interest. Find someone better suited for you that isn’t as toxic.

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roseblue
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posted February 05, 2020 01:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for roseblue     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I also agree that if this relationship was toxic it would be best to try and move on from it totally. If he was toxic to you then I would hope that you would leave him in the past where he belongs.

I’m all for looking back at past loves but If there is any hint of toxic behaviour or abuse I would caution any more exploration of it.

However if you are still very keen on learning more about this relationship I will have a look for you

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PiscesQueen
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posted February 05, 2020 08:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PiscesQueen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the support you guys! I agree it’s a situation that I should not be in. I did the breaking up and major self and soul work over the last 15 months. I have not reached out to him, I do not stalk his social media, I’ve cut off all mutual friends. For all intents and purposes he is gone from my life and I am much better.

However, I would love a deeper look to know what kinda of karmic bond or past life debt this might be. Any information you guys have can only make me strong.

Sorry if I formed this as a “should I get back with this person” post. It’s not that at all. Also I just want to learn and be prepared should he decide to say something.

Thanks!

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PiscesQueen
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posted February 05, 2020 08:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PiscesQueen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by roseblue:
I also agree that if this relationship was toxic it would be best to try and move on from it totally. If he was toxic to you then I would hope that you would leave him in the past where he belongs.

I’m all for looking back at past loves but If there is any hint of toxic behaviour or abuse I would caution any more exploration of it.

However if you are still very keen on learning more about this relationship I will have a look for you


Bump. I just replied to this in the tread. Would love if you would take a look!

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Hikaru29
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posted February 05, 2020 09:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My 1st boyfriend and I had a toxic relationship. He profoundly damaged me but I was glad I not only recovered but also became stronger. When I eventually left him I didn't look back. Was so glad I walked out of it.

I think most of us have had toxic relationships. On a positive note, they're essential for us to grow wisdom and strength. Without them, we would never know what's bad in relationships and appreciate the good people in our lives. The important thing is to learn and move on.

As for your chart (if both birth times are accurate) that Moon/Chiron opposite Sun/Mercury/Saturn in 6/12 houses look painful to me. Neptune conj Venus/Mars looks like a very romantic connection although a lot are projections & fantasies. I don't actually find Neptune that bad... I've seen long-term couples survived it without cheating but you also have Uranus making this an unstable connection so it really doesn't look like a good mix. Yet you have Venus-Node giving you the idea this relationship has a future or that you're meant to be.

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PiscesQueen
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posted February 05, 2020 11:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PiscesQueen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
My 1st boyfriend and I had a toxic relationship. He profoundly damaged me but I was glad I not only recovered but also became stronger. When I eventually left him I didn't look back. Was so glad I walked out of it.

I think most of us have had toxic relationships. On a positive note, they're essential for us to grow wisdom and strength. Without them, we would never know what's bad in relationships and appreciate the good people in our lives. The important thing is to learn and move on.

As for your chart (if both birth times are accurate) that Moon/Chiron opposite Sun/Mercury/Saturn in 6/12 houses look painful to me. Neptune conj Venus/Mars looks like a very romantic connection although a lot are projections & fantasies. I don't actually find Neptune that bad... I've seen long-term couples survived it without cheating but you also have Uranus making this an unstable connection so it really doesn't look like a good mix. Yet you have Venus-Node giving you the idea this relationship has a future or that you're meant to be.


Thank you for weighing in!
This resonates as three pillars of the relationship, fantasies, pain (emotional), and idea of a future.

Using words like “destiny” in the beginning because things felt magical.

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MonteCristo
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posted February 05, 2020 11:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MonteCristo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
One of my friends (who had slimmed down after a break up), when asked if she had been working out, told people that she was on the “emotional trauma diet”. 😂
She was like, “oh yeahhhh girl, get on that emotional trauma diet, you’ll lose tons!”

Not funny, but kinda funny

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PiscesQueen
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posted February 05, 2020 12:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PiscesQueen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by MonteCristo:
One of my friends (who had slimmed down after a break up), when asked if she had been working out, told people that she was on the “emotional trauma diet”. 😂
She was like, “oh yeahhhh girl, get on that emotional trauma diet, you’ll lose tons!”

Not funny, but kinda funny


Lol see, you get me. I used a similar line. Because enough time has passed now. Feel free to weigh in astrologically <3

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IV4Four
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posted February 06, 2020 07:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for IV4Four     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump

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GalacticCoreExplosion
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posted February 06, 2020 12:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well sure. I ended up water fasting for 5 days in the woods in order to deal with a separation from someone.

At the time, it felt like my heart been ripped out of my chest cavity and stomped on. I went out into the wilderness for the express purpose of trying to re-find my center via fasting, meditation-prayer, chanting-toning, and communing with nature (a lot of walking around barefoot, touching trees, sitting the middle of a stream, etc). It helped.

When I came back, I wrote this poem (still obviously hung up on her, but centered and not in so much pain):

Transformation Through Union

All doubt, fear, uncertainty have burned away and are now completely gone.
All that remains is sure knowing and a Love song.

In you, I see our Spirit's fragmented mirror.
And the image reflected back, couldn't be any more beautiful and clearer.

I have waited for you and this all consuming Love for over 12, 000 years long.
How much longer will you make me wait before you sound the gong?

I know that your heart needs to heal.
But in your forgiveness of me, and through our union, your heart wound can be annealed.

Deep holistic transformation is awaiting us my Beloved.
To get there though, you must step through the shadows of fear and into the Light of Love.

My Heart-Light can help guide the way, if you would but let it.
And we can become as merged and One again, as we were in Kemet.

Don't you hear me calling for you through the cacaphonic thunder, and piercing through the dense fog and mist?
Please do not let this sacred, divinely arranged opportunity be smashed to nothingness by your hurt and your angry fist.

I have seen through all the dark and distorted Plutonian masks that you sometimes wear.
In my Sirian-Arcturian light gray blue eyes, all of you is laid completely bare.

This is frightening to you I know.
But what I see most and underneath it all, is a pure Soul wanting to grow and grow.

One that I will always completely love and accept and never again abandon.
So come into my embrace, and together we will walk into this transformation.

Can you not sense that this is a once in a lifetime love?
Then walk with me through the Fire, let it burn out the dross, and emerge as unto like a pure White Dove.

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PiscesQueen
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posted February 06, 2020 06:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PiscesQueen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion:
Well sure. I ended up water fasting for 5 days in the woods in order to deal with a separation from someone.

At the time, it felt like my heart been ripped out of my chest cavity and stomped on. I went out into the wilderness for the express purpose of trying to re-find my center via fasting, meditation-prayer, chanting-toning, and communing with nature (a lot of walking around barefoot, touching trees, sitting the middle of a stream, etc). It helped.

When I came back, I wrote this poem (still obviously hung up on her, but centered and not in so much pain):

Transformation Through Union

All doubt, fear, uncertainty have burned away and are now completely gone.
All that remains is sure knowing and a Love song. ..........................................................

......................................................... But what I see most and underneath it all, is a pure Soul wanting to grow and grow.

One that I will always completely love and accept and never again abandon.
So come into my embrace, and together we will walk into this transformation.

Can you not sense that this is a once in a lifetime love?
Then walk with me through the Fire, let it burn out the dross, and emerge as unto like a pure White Dove.


Thank you for sharing!!

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GalacticCoreExplosion
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posted February 07, 2020 01:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You're welcome PiscesQueen, and thank you for the thank you.

As to your ex and the relationship, it looks and feels to me, that this particular relationship (judging by the composite, and some patterns within the natal), that perhaps you two brought out each other's more Fixed and stubborn sides of each other beyond the norm or usual for either of you as individuals. Neither of you is strongly fixed and stubborn by yourselves as individuals, but together, whoo boy, for some reason, you seem to bring out the inner mule of each other.

Like you both would dig in your heels and not give, admit you're wrong, apologize, bend, compromise, etc.

As to the true cause, it could be anything. It could be past life influences of a similar past pattern when both of you were more overtly and obviously fixed in nature, and any problems between you became a battle of unchanging wills.

Could relate to childhood patterns of having issues with authority, or some kind of woundedness that relates to one's will in some way, and again possibly related to authority in some sense--like a parent, teacher, older sibling or the like.

But one thing that is clear to me from having studied astrology for a long time, is that the astrology doesn't actually CAUSE any of this, but it only reflects the patterns/tendencies in a symbolic/representational manner.

The actual causes of relationship problems usually stems from either past/other life difficult dynamics that get replayed out, childhood wounds that get triggered by the partner, the specific "mixing of energy" that just goes on with two unique individuals in a relationship, and ever in any relationship problem--whether just one side or both sides--SELFISHNESS and lack of deeper empathy of some kind. Or a mix or blend of any two or more of the above usual factors.

The specifics of which is best to be figured out within self during a medatitive like state and asking for positive guidance from wise, loving, spiritually aware, very helpful sources, especially if you are able to tap intuitively into guidance. For sensitives like us, tuning in more deeply to other people's or relationships toxicity/negativity etc, isn't particularly pleasant in my experience. I got enough muck of my own to feel/deal with, without tuning deeply into others.

I haven't delved deeply into all the patterns, this is just a cursory, quick "vibe and feel" of the major dynamic. The composite has a lot of very prominent Fixed energies, both Sign and Planet wise, which is compounded by the ruler of the 7th, the Sun, in Aquarius, conjunct the Asc and square Scorpio Pluto. A LOT of self will, and towards the selfish and manipulative, but more unconscious in nature (Scorp Pluto square) involved in this connection. And that powerful Aquarius in the composite, in a sense, "activates" both of your Aqua Saturns, among some other Fixed and karmic oriented patterns.

No matter the deeper causes, reasons, etc, the best thing to do is to let go of any negativity, forgive the other person AND forgive yourself also (sometimes deep down we might feel "stupid" or "blind" for letting ourselves get in a toxic relationship or with a toxic person, or anger at self for not getting out earlier, etc, etc.). Well the truth is, most relationships we get in, we get nudged by our Expanded self level to get into for some reason or another, often to learn lessons, provide lessons, and/or to redress karmic patterns. Not always nor all the time, but a good portion of the time. (Sometimes our Expanded self tries to nudge us away from people, but our personality or Soul level is like, "NO, I want to be with them!" for whatever silly, more ego based reasons).

For example of the latter, I have a hard time believing that Ted Bundy's partners' Expanded self levels nudged them towards him/connection with him. I suppose it's possible, but sometime stuff just happens in this level, because there is a certain amount of chaos potential (which relates to freewill), and people or outside forces messing with our Soul plans and paths, or we're just not listening to our deeper and wiser levels of self like the Soul and Expanded/Spirit self.

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PiscesQueen
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posted February 07, 2020 02:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PiscesQueen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion:
You're welcome PiscesQueen, and thank you for the thank you.
As to your ex and the relationship, it looks and feels to me, that this particular relationship (judging by the composite, and some patterns within the natal), that perhaps you two brought out each other's more Fixed and stubborn sides of each other beyond the norm or usual for either of you as individuals. Neither of you is strongly fixed and stubborn by yourselves as individuals, but together, whoo boy, for some reason, you seem to bring out the inner mule of each other...................

...................................... I suppose it's possible, but sometime stuff just happens in this level, because there is a certain amount of chaos potential (which relates to freewill), and people or outside forces messing with our Soul plans and paths, or we're just not listening to our deeper and wiser levels of self like the Soul and Expanded/Spirit self.



Ding ding ding. Yes! The stubbornness was so real. Any fight we had, it was hard to get him to bend. To see things my way. I was often exhausted from being the bigger person, to call after a fight. Or come over to talk things out. Ultimately my last stubborn retaliation was the break up. I said to myself “I’m not going to call him or try to make plans to meet up. I need to know that just for once he will be the one to reach out to me.” He never did. And we haven’t spoken in 15 months.

Also I love this “But one thing that is clear to me from having studied astrology for a long time, is that the astrology doesn't actually CAUSE any of this, but it only reflects the patterns/tendencies in a symbolic/representational manner.”

This is super important to me. I’m so happy you said this. Because I believe there is a misconception out there. I’m noticing the more I study astrology the more people blame it for certain things happening when actually it’s patterns / symbolism / and tendencies. Like you said.

Thank you so much for this. I have what I need. And I know there’s nothing good for me with him. Thank you also to everyone else who chimed in!

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GalacticCoreExplosion
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posted February 08, 2020 12:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Am glad it was helpful.

Yes, it's a pet peeve somewhat that so many into astrology speak of it as if it was a literal cause, rather than a cosmic clock or road-map.

Imo, it works the same principle as does Carl Jung's concept of synchronicity. Synchronicity can and does happen, ime/o, because everything is One/completely interconnected.

Heck, even the bible talks about the stars and heavens as being created and given as "signs". And that's exactly what it's about, signs along the way, reflecting symbolically what's going on within consciousness. A sort of "consciousness language" and "barometer".

Astrology will never be taken seriously if we hold to it being literally about direct cause and effect, because most "left brain" types are immediately going to think of and point to events and transits/progressions, and would pointedly ask astrology/astrologers, "so you really truly believe that large balls of rock and gas somehow literally create/make events happen in your life?"

Sounds about as illogical and superstitious as one can get.

But there are increasingly aspects of both known quantum and hypothesized theoretical physics, which strongly suggest that on a fundamental level, everything is interconnected. And if so, this allows for one level of reality, to reflect or mirror another. (i.e. "synchronicity ala Jung).

Or to put it in another way, your future doesn't happen because the tea leaves or tarot cards came out in a certain way, but the tea leaves or tarot cards came out that way because on a consciousness level part of you and the Whole knows the probable future and influenced the tea leaves or tarot cards to come out that way to reflect the probable future. (A little different in some ways, but related to the general topic).

One being a cause, and one being an effect/reflection.

So, so, so important to understand the distinction, and I sometimes feel like a "crazy person" crying out in the wilderness as a lone voice, "that's not how it works".

Thank you for getting it and speaking to it/this issue as well. I do understand there are plenty of people that understand this and believe similarly in a core way, and yet, many of these persist in speaking of it in terms and context of it being a direct, literal cause. Why the disconnect, I don't fully understand.

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