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astrosaz
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posted February 17, 2020 08:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astrosaz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just wanted to find out what's the difference between someones Venus and 'Love' vs the 7th house?

Especially if it's in opposite signs like Aries Rising having an Aries Venus yet their 7th house in Libra how would one express their love or desire?

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posted February 17, 2020 10:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aries rising. 7th house is libra. Therefore, 7th ruler is VENUS. Sooo venus and 7th ruler is pretty much the same.

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posted February 17, 2020 10:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Whatever sign venus has is going to express there love, vanity, or relationship patterns in which ever sign and house it falls in and aspects will characterize it.

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posted February 17, 2020 11:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astrosaz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by angel4845:
Aries rising. 7th house is libra. Therefore, 7th ruler is VENUS. Sooo venus and 7th ruler is pretty much the same.

So their 7th house is ruled by Venus and their personal Venus is In Aries (In the 1st house) therefore they wouldn't be displaying or desiring 'Libra 7th House Traits' but Aries ones?

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posted February 18, 2020 04:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's a combination. With a Libra DSC, they like someone with Venusian traits (pleasant, well-groomed and well-mannered etc). Most likely they will enjoy being partnered since it's Libra. DSC ruler in Aries 1H also shows an attraction to people with strong Mars. You also have to take into consideration planets in their 7H.

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posted February 18, 2020 09:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Exactly what Hikaru said.

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posted February 21, 2020 02:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bismarck2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by astrosaz:
So their 7th house is ruled by Venus and their personal Venus is In Aries (In the 1st house) therefore they wouldn't be displaying or desiring 'Libra 7th House Traits' but Aries ones?

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posted February 21, 2020 09:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vansio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
the difference is, Venus is generally love-language, the 7th House Ruler Planet is the type of person one partners for.

So in the case of the Aries Rising person, they want a Venusian person (not Martian) that goes after them boldly, caters to, makes them (the native) their entire world (in the 1st house). Say it were the other way around, the Aries Rising person with Libra Venus in their natal 7th—they would want to be the one fawning after, catering to, their Venusian-like loved one object (needing to project out). Either way an Aries Risings partner is passive.

Libra Risings are looking for Martian types. The key difference between these two is the Libra Rising person is prone to fighting with their loved one, because Aries is their shadow archetype projected on their other [half].

My ex is Libra Rising with Libra Venus in the 12th House, Mars in 11th. I have Mars conjunct my AC, my Aries Venus (love language) is in my 11th, and am Piscean-Neptunian in nature.

consecutively, my DC-Ruler is in my 9th House, Saturn in Aquarius (natural ruler of 11th). His Jupiter (natural ruler of 9th House) conjuncts my AC and his Saturn conjuncts my DC exact. Despite these interaspects impressing my natal config, he was “foreign” (from a different country) like I was “martian” and spiritual. The emphasis on the mutual 11/Aquarian-type DC-Rulers is needing to be friends-networked.

So symbolically the 7th House Ruler has a say in “who is my other half” for the native

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posted February 21, 2020 02:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by astrosaz:
Just wanted to find out what's the difference between someones Venus and 'Love' vs the 7th house?

Especially if it's in opposite signs like Aries Rising having an Aries Venus yet their 7th house in Libra how would one express their love or desire?


****VENUS****

The 1st house Venus- "I am going to corporate with people. This regardless of context. I am instinctively aware of social rules & decorum but don't know how I come to this knowledge."

7th house Venus-"Because I am with other people/in a relationship, I should be cooperative" OR "I will be nice if people are nice to me in appropriate spaces."

The 7th house person is always LEARNING how to relate, what relating means and is the type to read "How to win friends and influence people" or books like "Think like a man and act like a woman."

The former is instinctive/raw self. The latter is reflective/contextual self.

There was a girl I watched once on a crime show who entered her neighbors residence to ask for help.

She stood outside and knocked on the door. And when they opened, she wouldn't enter until they told her it was okay to come in.

Her reason for staying on the porch? She'd had an intruder slit her throat, her hand was putting pressure on it and she didn't want to "bleed" on their carpet. That's Venus in 1st. Always polite.

The 7th house Venus is nice depending on whom you are and where the context is i.e it's not their default mode to be nice(unless Tau/Lib is rising).

So they tend to "reflect" based off on the person they are interacting with.

Ever been on a date with someone whom every time you talk, they seem to mimic your body language or "mirror" it in some way?

When you lean forward, they lean forward. They talk about themselves and then switch to "enough about me. Tell me about you"?

They seem to have excellent social graces for where it really counts. But it seems to "perfect", even slightly "rehearsed" because it seems more like they are feeding off of you and are not completely being themselves?

Well that is a 7th house Venus. And they are seldom aware that they are doing that as they reflect their personality based off on the partner a lot. And will seem to mimise or "edit" out those things that may cause disagreements, awkwardness or discomfort (a Venus in 1st house may not this)

Venus in Aries in 1st smiles at the cashier and spontaneously flirts(even if she/he doesn't encourage the advances). They have a lot of flirt to go around. And its free.

The 7th house Aries Venus will wait to be greeted. Depending on the approach,they will reciprocate and be as playful or as jolly as the initiator.

Sometimes they'll initiate, but if the response is not warm they will close down. They certainly don't continue to flirt if the advances are discouraged.

Because Aries is involved,they may even get a little angry that you "rejected" them or were not nice to them. The reaction often is "I was so nice to you but you were not even nice back to me."

****LOVE****

Love is the Sun.Love is Forever & objective. Venus is not love but affection/companionship or romance (subjective).

Sun in Cancer can take care of ALL human beings.Their capacity to care,transcending colour/country barriers. At its core,it is undending.

Venus in Cancer is more discriminating on whom gets their "care" I.e they are motivated to take care of the partner or those they love only and can preclude others.

Sun in Cancer cares by way of personality assertion.Venus cares by way of relationship reflection or relation preservation.


****7TH HOUSE****

7th house are all those things that others bring out of you. The 7th,Lib and Venus are one archetype. In that they all are reflective in essence (this except when Lib/ Venus are in the 1st,then they are "active").

So a Venus in Aries in 1st house (Aries Asc)will flirt up a storm the 1st time they see you. And it will be instinctive, unrehearsed.

Their capacity for affection is usually geared towards fulfilling their own needs I.e sex, fun, intellect etc. As they are not really interested in you when it doesn't directly benefit them in some way clear to them(Aries)

When Libra is Descending, they are encouraged by the interaction they have with others to be polite and courteous.

BUT since the ruler of the 7th is in the 1st, there is a "loop" that forms here. They give love(1st) freely and to anyone,then they have it reflected back on them (Lib 7th).

So this person MAY be quite popular or the type who is able to easily put people in good mood because they themselves always seem to always be in a good mood.

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