posted February 23, 2020 09:29 PM            

That's one question, how do our charts look?
Second, when does composite chart really start to count? Some argue that since it's the manifestation of two souls bonding into one, it only happened after the two individuals sleep together/cohabitation?
Another question is that, we thought of relocating, going to places like Australia but I'm not entirely sure how I should interpret interpersonal charts based on locations yet, any thoughts?

This is my chart: http://imgur.com/rFSnjGP

This is his chart: http://imgur.com/A9gdv4w

This is our synastry: http://imgur.com/Z2qSo8V

This is our composite at current location: http://imgur.com/wtgtSgk

posted February 23, 2020 10:01 PM            

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Originally posted by Stoika7:
Hi TheFireTrine and welcome!

I can't find the synastry and composite images at those links... could you please upload again to imgur?

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posted February 23, 2020 11:57 PM            

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Originally posted by Stoika7:
Great, thank you TheFireTrine !

Your union looks pretty solid with the Composite Saturn/Sun midpoint conjunct Venus/MC ! You also seem to have a very deep understanding of each other's nature, emotions and issues, as you can actually mirror each other for some traits and can share past wounds/experiences, this cause you both have Chiron in opposition to Saturn and Saturn in both the charts looks quite devoted... I would say you have a strong glue more than simple chemistry! In synastry you have Pluto square Mars and Moon, and Pluto square Venus, this is extremely instense, passionate, binding, even though it can give strong control issues, harsh arguments and/or co-dependence, in fact the Composite Pluto square Chiron and (widely) square Saturn might look a little oppressive in the long run, especially with Saturn in Aquarius... clashes of will and some little "toxic" traits might arise.... and Moon square to Saturn/MC, this is again a very binding aspect but carrying some emotional burden in the long run... North Node in sagittarius might actually suggest your future plans of relocation and this is square to Jupiter/Mars, so I guess this would imply some efforts, but Jupiter/Mars conjunction is a very positive and dynamic aspect and supported by the trine to Sun/Mercury, so it seems you both have very clear ideas about your future plans and your relationship developments... you seem to also share a lot of creativity and intellectual interests, my overall feeling is that you both feel have found the perfect mate :-)
I can't see the Composite Vertex so I can't say where your "psychic" connection comes from exactly, you should check aspects between Vertex and the nodes and/or Uranus... the Mercury/Uranus/Neptune stellium can suggest a strong mind connection, even though not so "otherworldly" as if it is in aspect to the nodes or Vertex.

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Hello, thank you for your insightful reply! No wonder the intensity shared between us, it was as if a pipe was formed between our souls as substances passed to each other very smoothly. Somehow he can tell my moods, he can't feel that things were wrong. He was also understanding.
I was surprised to see how North node in Sagittarius could also mean aiming for relocation, which is great because time to time I am worried about whether if we were on the same page since he appeared to be all-in for the mundane, simple life in the rural area of our homeland, if it was not the sexual orientation repression, I would have stayed too.

Also you mentioned about Vertex, interesting, I never got to that deep with the asteroids since some say that it might not have that much effect although I doubt it.

Here's the chart with Vertex and other asteroids I commonly heard online: http://imgur.com/ORZ07FO

And the Mercury-Uranus-Neptune stellium, oh, I never thought I could see it that way because throughout my previous relationships, I have yet seen a composite that that contains a stellium which includes so many planets. And conjunction to me is like the two planets' energies are mixed with each other, so I just felt, "wow that's a bundle of energies blended together."

posted February 24, 2020 01:01 AM            

Oh now I see why you can read each other's mind! Vertex is conjunct Jupiter/trine Mercury and square to the Nodes!! This is an extremely psychic aspect and it can also give synchronicities, as you mentioned "even replying at the same time, as if the universe rearranged itself for us" ! ...and the fact that Vertex is square to the nodes implies a karmic connection, so that you likely felt right away your meeting was somehow fated!

The Pluto/Juno conjunction in 7th house empowers the feeling of belonging together and this is square to Lilith/Chiron and trine to Ceres, so your intimacy is really intense and felt as true love, even though as I explained the intensity of Chiron/Pluto square might bring some strong control issues and with Saturn in the picture clash of wills might arise too... but it really looks like the other side of the coin for such an intense connection, which is Juno/Pluto trine to the very stable Sun/Venus/MC stellium :-)

posted February 24, 2020 01:12 AM            

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Originally posted by Stoika7:
You are so welcome and thanks for the new chart!

Oh now I see why you can read each other's mind! Vertex is conjunct Jupiter/trine Mercury and square to the Nodes!! This is an extremely psychic aspect and it can also give synchronicities, as you mentioned "even replying at the same time, as if the universe rearranged itself for us" ! ...and the fact that Vertex is square to the nodes implies a karmic connection, so that you likely felt right away your meeting was somehow fated!

The Pluto/Juno conjunction in 7th house empowers the feeling of belonging together and this is square to Lilith/Chiron and trine to Ceres, so your intimacy is really intense and felt as true love, even though as I explained the intensity of Chiron/Pluto square might bring some strong control issues and with Saturn in the picture clash of wills might arise too... but it really looks like the other side of the coin for such an intense connection, which is Juno/Pluto trine to the very stable Sun/Venus/MC stellium :-)

I noticed that transiting nodes will be in a reverse conjunction to composite nodes as transiting uranus will be square to the Saturn/Venus midpoint in late June, so this might be a crucial time for your future plans and/or relocation... transiting Saturn will be conjunct to Composite Sun at that time, so it looks like a definitive establishment, but the nodal square to Jupiter/Mars and from transit Uranus seem to bring big changes with a potential unpredictable trait... not sure what this exactly means though, did you plan to relocate around next summer ?

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OH vertex with Mercury and Jupiter, that explains a lot. No wonder the psychic connection. Sometimes I get freaked out when I was going to say something and that line just rang in my head a little and he just said my thoughts out. The control issues, despite what most astrologers wrote for certain Pluto aspects alone, were not really felt between us. At times he would apologize and say that he’s being manipulative for it’s a Scorpio issue. I myself have a Sun trine Pluto, I can be half a Scorpio in some ways too, it was understandable and it was not as bad as what the other articles wrote. It was because of Juno/Pluto to Stellium huh, a very stable Stellium too, I was figuring out how Uranus would play out in the Stellium, wondering if it would destabilize it too. Luckily it seems to be the other way round.

Regarding the transit you foresee, well, it’s interesting , even pleasing to hear that a definitive establishment could happen, we are excited too as from time to time we would discuss about cohabitation and marriage, things like that. Our relocation does not seem to be so soon yet. I’m still considering a few factors, places and I’m making funds too. Since we each other owns a store, I doubt we would relocate that soon. Our premise for a relocation was only if the economy slumped so much we no longer make money with sales or we get heavily discriminated by the citizens. None of which would happen suddenly.... or will it? We are still thinking of getaways and places to visit for trips, sometimes imagining our wedding, hahaha. Are you implying that it’s a good timing for relocation? Or something big and changing will happen? I can’t really imagine any that fits that degree of change and establishment... it sounds as if we are getting married overseas, we are into the sixth month of relationship. Don’t want to sound too hurry, haha.

posted February 24, 2020 01:34 AM            

yes, you have described this very well, and with the nodes square in the picture believe me the psychic thing is crazy... I have experienced this so I perfectly understand why you freak out, LOL !

Good that you dont have those control issues, even though keep in mind that such traits with those aspects can *potentially* arise in certain circumstances... certainly those aspects are very binding in a way that whether the couple break up or whether the two are physically separated for whatever reason it's extremely hard to move on and detach from those intense feelings...

If you share an activity business, this also explains the strong 10th house and MC placements!
Well, nodal transits to the nodes are always very signficant and usually suggest a significant moment, a new start, a new cicle, a further step... in this case it is reverse, cause transiting north node will be conjunct to composite south node, so this is a little tricky to predict, usually suggesting some radical change, something is left behind and a new chapter begins, sort of.... with the square to Jupiter/Vertex and transiting Uranus square to the Saturn/Venus midpoint, I am a little puzzled, since it looks quite fated and maybe unexpected.... it could simply suggest a breaking point when you take a definitive decision about your future, or maybe that your plans suddenly change and take a different direction for some reason, but still in agreement I believe, since transiting Saturn will be conjunct to Composite MC/Sun... this could also be linked to your shared activity then...

posted February 24, 2020 01:43 AM            

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Originally posted by Stoika7:
"OH vertex with Mercury and Jupiter, that explains a lot. No wonder the psychic connection. Sometimes I get freaked out when I was going to say something and that line just rang in my head a little and he just said my thoughts out."

yes, you have described this very well, and with the nodes square in the picture believe me the psychic thing is crazy... I have experienced this so I perfectly understand why you freak out, LOL !

Good that you dont have those control issues, even though keep in mind that such traits with those aspects can *potentially* arise in certain circumstances... certainly those aspects are very binding in a way that whether the couple break up or whether the two are physically separated for whatever reason it's extremely hard to move on and detach from those intense feelings...

If you share an activity business, this also explains the strong 10th house and MC placements!
Well, nodal transits to the nodes are always very signficant and usually suggest a significant moment, a new start, a new cicle, a further step... in this case it is reverse, cause transiting north node will be conjunct to composite south node, so this is a little tricky to predict, usually suggesting some radical change, something is left behind and a new chapter begins, sort of.... with the square to Jupiter/Vertex and transiting Uranus square to the Saturn/Venus midpoint, I am a little puzzled, since it looks quite fated and maybe unexpected.... it could simply suggest a breaking point when you take a definitive decision about your future, or maybe that you plans suddenly change a take a different direction for some reason, but still in agreement I believe, since transiting Saturn will be conjunct to Composite MC/Sun... this could also be linked to your shared activity then...

I hope I didnt make you anxious about this though! Likely it will just be something that didnt really play out as you had planned but that you might have to arrange differently or so :-)

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Yeah, I felt if we were separated, I don’t think I’ll find someone like him again. He’s so ordinary yet so otherworldly. Like at times, I can just utter the first word and he can just complete the entire sentence for me. It’s so magical.

I hope that the change doesn’t come as a harmful one because I don’t feel it’ll be something like that too.

The decisive moment might be imaginably my “coming-out” moment, since my partner had already come out to his family not too long after we got together. I hope it’s just not a new chapter for me, but us. Funny, I thought my instinctive feelings are baseless and look at what we’ve got here!

Thank you for your input! It’s really helpful.

Also, do you happen to know if the location truly affects composite?

I was once in a relationship and it felt okay, we were overseas till I returned to my homeland and Uranus/Neptune suddenly dipped into 7th house and things go haywire. As expected, the breakup happens the least expected manner. As much as I want to deny it but all my friends whose relationship contain Uranus/Neptune in 7th house never works out in the end, including mine. So, if a relocation were to happen and we are planning it, to what extent can the composite be affected?

posted February 24, 2020 01:46 AM            

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Originally posted by TheFireTrine:
Yeah, I felt if we were separated, I don’t think I’ll find someone like him again. He’s so ordinary yet so otherworldly. Like at times, I can just utter the first word and he can just complete the entire sentence for me. It’s so magical. A focus on MC can be interpreted as shared business together, huh? Never thought of it meaning that, I just imagined us might be public figures somehow, LOL. Needs to study a lot still!

I hope that the change doesn’t come as a harmful one because I don’t feel it’ll be something like that too.

The decisive moment might be imaginably my “coming-out” moment, since my partner had already come out to his family not too long after we got together. I hope it’s just not a new chapter for me, but us. Funny, I thought my instinctive feelings are baseless and look at what we’ve got here!

Thank you for your input! It’s really helpful.

Also, do you happen to know if the location truly affects composite?

I was once in a relationship and it felt okay, we were overseas till I returned to my homeland and Uranus/Neptune suddenly dipped into 7th house and things go haywire. As expected, the breakup happens the least expected manner. As much as I want to deny it but all my friends whose relationship contain Uranus/Neptune in 7th house never works out in the end, including mine. So, if a relocation were to happen and we are planning it, to what extent can the composite be affected?

I once traveled to a place where my natal Venus was brought to Ascendant and I harvested that energy ever since, I looked better, more confident. So probably it’ll have an effect too on us, I guess.

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posted February 24, 2020 02:09 AM            

Your Uranus and Neptune in this Composite are perfectly placed in harmony and I cant see any danger from these... :-)

as for relocation affecting composite, I am honestly not able to read such charts, only thing I have read about the subject was this article that came up to my mind as you have mentioned this, dont know if it's helpful! (I honestly didnt really fully understand it though, LOL! )

posted February 24, 2020 02:20 AM            

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Originally posted by Stoika7:
Well, Neptune and Uranus are strongly divisive when there's a square to saturn, MC, the nodes and Uranus square Jupiter, so maybe you had some of these aspects in those cases ?

Your Uranus and Neptune in this Composite are perfectly placed in harmony and I cant see any danger from these... :-)

as for relocation affecting composite, I am honestly not able to read such charts, only thing I have read about the subject was this article that came up to my mind as you have mentioned this, dont know if it's helpful! (I honestly didnt really fully understand it though, LOL! )

https://www.forrestastrology.com/blogs/astrology/where-will-you-land-next-and-which-planets-will-meet-you

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posted February 24, 2020 06:27 PM            

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The control issues, despite what most astrologers wrote for certain Pluto aspects alone, were not really felt between us. At times he would apologize and say that he’s being manipulative for it’s a Scorpio issue.
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These are insightful comments...

I have the notion that if you have a difficult pluto in your natal chart, then any hard pluto synastry aspects play up more.

Apart from your venus sq pluto, you both have nice pluto aspects. Your square is tempered by venus being in aqua conjunct the moon - a cooler detached approach if you will, but a touch of spice regardless.

You both sound very emotionally aware and act in gentle ways towards each other. Bravo

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posted February 24, 2020 08:19 PM            

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Originally posted by Stoika7:
Actually I am thinking... if relocation chart has any impact (I have no clue!), it would be enough to pull out a new composite changing the place and time of birth of both people as explained in the article and see what comes out according to what Forrest's article explains... if the method affects a natal chart, I can't see why it shouldnt apply to a Composite chart as well !

Alternatively, you might create a multicomposite between you, the other person and an event time and place, but you need to figure out a possible day for your moving/relocation....

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I can generally generate charts based on locations, how our personal as well as composite charts get turned around as we relocated but we have not fixed a location yet. I get already like 3 different charts from three major cities in Australia. I'm not sure, unless we have confirmed something or it would be time-consuming to go through gay-friendly countries alone, even though the aspects are the same, the placements are different.

Like I noticed how when relocation shifted Uranus/Neptune to my sixth house, I get sick a lot, randomly and they don't cure fast, I once had a flu/cough that lasted for whole month compared to a few days in my home country. A lot to consider.

Also it's funny how the composite chart with my EX contained ALL the divisive aspects you mentioned
Uranus/Neptune wide-square Saturn in 8th
Probably squaring MC too, it's 45 degree apart
the nodes too
And a wide-square Jupiter in 5th
And a Mars in ASC (I notice when I have this even in my personal charts, I tend to get into arguments and misunderstanding a lot)
The Uranus is in 7th house too, even before relocation comes into the picture (which carries the Neptune into 7th house and made things worse)
As you can see here : http://imgur.com/WQ32w0e

posted February 24, 2020 08:29 PM            

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Originally posted by starstruck1:
These are insightful comments...

I have the notion that if you have a difficult pluto in your natal chart, then any hard pluto synastry aspects play up more.

Apart from your venus sq pluto, you both have nice pluto aspects. Your square is tempered by venus being in aqua conjunct the moon - a cooler detached approach if you will, but a touch of spice regardless.

You both sound very emotionally aware and act in gentle ways towards each other. Bravo

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Yeah I just realized my partner has pretty good Pluto too.
Pluto is dark and at least lit up by Sun, blended with Mercury to give it some rationality and communication to know the very rock bottom of truth, trine with Jupiter so it doesn't get exaggerated the non-constructive way with Mars in Cancer, all mellowed up.

Also thanks for pointing out that my Venus is still considered an Aquarian one so I get detached. I didn't notice it back then, I was too distracted by the fact how Venus sq Pluto could attract possessive, relationship with power struggle, either you dominate or me situations.

posted March 04, 2020 02:09 PM            

This synastry is lacking in a lot of compatibility too, I don't see this working out long term. Lots of square planet by sign and aspect. Plus have strong Aquarius, a lot of air and fire. He is lacking in both those elements He's all water... and this is an issue. You are a lot more detached/rational than he is, and you have Cappy DSC so in the long run you won't like this that much, you want someone very practical, grounded, and in control/dignified, not emotionally all over the place/moody (his cancer moon). Eventually your Aquarius moon will get annoyed by his hyper sensitivity and irrationalism (lacking air and all the water). You won't understand each other either since you operate from totally different places.
The mars square mars is such an irritating aspect too, arguments, frustration and annoyance is very common.