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Topic: "True conjunctions" in synastry
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mir
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posted February 26, 2012 11:30 AM
  
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Ceridwen
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posted February 26, 2012 11:39 AM
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Interesting similarity .. luckily enough not as unhealthy
Yes.  But even across this wide gap of being complete strangers, I still could feel that parallel at play. I thought that was almost a little bit creepy.
On the other hand I do not dare imagine what would happen if I knew someone in "real life" with whom I shared something like that. IP: Logged |
woah cakes
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posted February 26, 2012 02:16 PM
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I definitely count oppositions/ contraparallel!And also the MC-ASC one is a very strong one, it also means that you have DESC-IC, and this is something I found in most relationships that are being considered soulmates, a connection of DESC and IC, be it that the angles themselves were in strong aspect, or the ruler of DESC to ruler of IC or IC, or the ruler of IC to DESC. It`s not the topic here, but without a strong connection to the IC I donīt believe that two people are soulmates, as the IC is the deepest point in our charts and our soul (it is the "home of our soul", which is often reflected through conditions in our childhood / original family, but limiting it on just home and family in that worldly sense doesn`t do this angle any justice.).
mmhmmm! he also has a stellium on my IC. i love the idea of DC/IC, i'm just not entirely sure how to feel it. maybe cuz the passive angles feel a bit elusive (to me), so together, doubly so. do you have any links about this particular conjunction? i like this theory about 'true conjunctions' (and oppositions) btw. we have some other parallels and counterparallels that aren't reflected in our regular synastry that i think account for some things. feels like a subtler, more internalized process but very relevant. so true conjunctions would have the overt exchange and the parallels would indicate a deeper exchange, i'm guessing (just checked them out for the first time during my insomnia last night)..? and therefore a 'true conjunction' would mean a melding of the two worlds! IP: Logged |
woah cakes
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posted February 26, 2012 02:47 PM
oh one more question: if you are using counterparallels would you increase the orb at all if you have two or more planets at each axis? for eg:my mercury 19s17
venus 20s36
neptune 21s39
jupiter 20n13 and his jupiter 20n18
neptune 21s36..? (and his sun is 18n01 but that must be definitely stretching it!) oh, and how could i forget that we also have jupiter cj jupiter true conjunction as well. it also sits exactly on our composite DC. kinda love it. IP: Logged |
athenegoddess
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posted February 26, 2012 08:18 PM
Ceri I didn't notice. I still don't grasp this antiscia/contrascia..  Mercury rules my 9th house actually. I have my chart ruler (Venus) conjunct Mercury though. I have stelliums in the 9th/3rd houses. IP: Logged |
Selene
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posted January 09, 2014 06:30 AM
So i have these conjunctions in my synastry with Him. My Neptune conjunct his Jupiter - 0'44a
My Neptune parallel his Jupiter - 0'39 My Neptune conjunct his DSC - 0'29
My Neptune parallel his DSC - 0'52 My Pluto conjunct his Saturn - 1'00
No parallel My DSC conjunct his Venus - 0'55
My DSC parallel his Venus - 0'44 My MC conjunct his NN - 1'47
My MC parallel his NN - 0'17
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I'm so cappy
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posted May 02, 2014 04:08 PM
"true conjunctions"
my ASC conjunct his MC
my MC conjunct his Mars
my Mercury conjunct his Neptune
my Venus conjunct his SN"true oppositions"
his Venus opposite my Uranus
his Vertex opposite my Uranus
his Vertex opposite my Neptune Composite:
Moon conjunct Pluto
Venus conjunct DSC
NN opposite Vertex
Mars opposite Saturn If we're not soulmates then I don't know what we are 
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KarmicMoon
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posted May 02, 2014 05:51 PM
I'm curious if I am looking at this right,
ASC 17 52' Virgo 4 47'31" N
Lilith 18 47'Virgo 5 47'31" NI hope this isn't a stupid question, but does this also work with points as well, like the Nodes and Vertex? IP: Logged |
Lotis White
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posted May 02, 2014 08:24 PM
Awesome thread. When you do declinations on astro.com you can also see the declinations of not just the planets but all the house cusps. So we can get things like Venus parallel the 3rd house cusp, and contra-parallel the 9th house cusp in synastry. Interesting. So the communication/idealism axis of one person would be influenced by the Venus of the other person and vice versa. Even if on the zodiac chart Venus is in the partners 2nd house. Now that I think about it, house cusp declinations open up a whole new way of looking at things. Most people already look at the planets and the MC/IC and ASC/DSC axis in declinations, but how about for the 2nd/8th, 3rd/9th, 5th/11th, 6th/12th house cusps as well? This could be super illuminating on top of what we already know. You could also identify more 'true' house cusp connections as well. Like if a planet is in your 3rd house but also parallel the 3rd house cusp... There might be a bigger emphasis on the house connection with the power of the parallel behind it. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted May 03, 2014 03:56 AM
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Originally posted by KarmicMoon:
I'm curious if I am looking at this right,
ASC 17 52' Virgo 4 47'31" N
Lilith 18 47'Virgo 5 47'31" NI hope this isn't a stupid question, but does this also work with points as well, like the Nodes and Vertex?
It is a very good question, as they are calculated points, but for now I use them, while still researching its validity. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted May 03, 2014 03:58 AM
if we are using the main axis, I think we should take the others as well. The problem of course is what housesystem we use (at least we are agreeing on the major angles in all systems ).
However I am sticking to my Placidus for this (or actually topocentric).I also have started taking the close conjunctions to housecusps into more account. Plus find it interesting if in synastry there is a close overlay of houses, even if not the cardinal angles. Something like an overlay of 8th and 11th house cusp for example seems quite significant. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted May 03, 2014 05:04 AM
When it comes to the houses, I have these parallels:
Sun in 1st parallel 2nd house cusp: 0°30
Mars in 12th conjunct and parallel ASC: 1°51/0°16 Saturn in 8th parallel DESC (0°27) Neptune in 1st conj and parallel ASC (2°55/ 1°03) Pluto in 10th parallel 5th cusp: 0°50
- this I find quite interesting
NN in 1st conj and parallel ASC: 3°08/ 0°29
Vx in 8th parallel DESC: 0°14 Vesta in 1st parallel 2nd cusp: 0°18
My Venus is out of bounds at 24°06 S, but her co-declination is at 22°47 S.
Venus on 6 Capricorn, 2nd house cusp on 12 Capricorn, so Venus is most definitely in 1st house, but I do relate to the 2nd house placement as well, probably also because she already is in the next sign, the sign of my 2nd house, while my ASC is in Sagittarius. However using her co-declination she is rather closely parallel 2nd house cusp with an orb of 0°05, too. IP: Logged |
jjj
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posted May 04, 2014 11:55 AM
I have in synastry with someone I consider a soul mate the following:my Uranus conjuncts his NN (orb 0.03) and opposes his Venus (orb 0.26) in declinations my Uranus-Chiron parallel his Venus and contra-parallel his Sun-NN the solstice points of his Sun, NN, Venus, my Uranus also mirror each other IP: Logged |
ChildofVenus
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posted March 21, 2020 02:09 PM
So it's only a "true conjunction" if the planets conjunct and parallel in synastry? I don't think that's really true because parallels are aspects. And some people may only have conjunctions and no parallels so this makes no sense.IP: Logged |
ULT12
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posted March 21, 2020 03:43 PM
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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
So it's only a "true conjunction" if the planets conjunct and parallel in synastry? I don't think that's really true because parallels are aspects. And some people may only have conjunctions and no parallels so this makes no sense.
I believe what the chosen label "true conjunction" means is that it has a doublewhammy-ish 'conjunction feeling', not that one aspect without the other does not feel like a Conjunction. Ceri was researching whether "true conjunctions" had higher rates of activity/or intensity, vs "non-true conjunctions". -
- unrelated: If someone can link Ceri's Chart, I'd be thankful (I've seen it many times before so it's not some secret). IP: Logged |
Kannon McAfee
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posted March 21, 2020 09:09 PM
I'm moving this to Interpersonal Astrology where synastry discussions belong.------------------
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Randall
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