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rayofnight
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posted April 03, 2020 02:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rayofnight     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have always known - I can be in love or I can be in control. I always choose being in control because I didn't trust anyone enough to go there. At a rather advanced age, I met someone and then realized I didn't have the option to choose this time. I fell quite hard.

However, I have never felt like I was alone with this man. It always felt like a presence was there. Not in the supernatural sense, but in his thoughts. I believe he might obsessed with someone else. I have no proof of this, nothing except intuition. When he told me he loved me, I didn't believe him at all. The only clue I have is an incident where, quite randomly, he mentioned a woman he thought was exceptionally beautiful. He is a building inspector and she was having a building inspected - right there, a need for secrecy if there was any intimacy, as he could be accused of using his position as leverage.

I should also mention that before this, very early in the relationship, he let my sister know he was very attracted to her, which hurt me a lot. She has Venus in Scorpio in the 1st House. He uses that to draw blood on occasion. I also feel that those two may be deceiving me, as a team. Am I being paranoid or is it possible? I have posted my sister's chart and their synastry - they were born less than two weeks apart.

Because we were orphaned, we've always been very close. But she also has Scorpio Rising and Sag Sun. A cheat who gets what she wants. And it's pretty obvious she wants him.

A couple of details I thought were important - his Venus is in Sagittarius and so is her Sun. He also has Pluto, Mars and Uranus in 12th House, natal.

I know this is a lot to throw on the table, especially after everyone's generosity regarding the "death" issue, but I really need some clarity. Can't see the forest for the trees.

Michele/Scott Davison http://imgur.com/a/cNBojsW

Sister/Scott Davison http://imgur.com/a/Fq9k3C6

Michele/Scott Synastry http://imgur.com/a/VUkQXUV

Sister/Scott Synastry http://imgur.com/a/FdI0obh

Michele/Scott Composite http://imgur.com/a/QrNS9LH

Sister/Scott Composite http://imgur.com/a/SyGNRyJ

Sister Natal http://imgur.com/a/nzrySpL

Scott Natal http://imgur.com/a/x7o7uX4

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vansio
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posted April 03, 2020 07:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vansio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For clarification, you don’t quite say who is Scott to you. Your brother in law? Someone you feel possessive over? A family friend you hook up with every now and then?

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athenaia
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posted April 03, 2020 03:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenaia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
rayofnight, I hate to be picky, but can you please reduce the orbs on all of these by 20%? Also, can you use the other synastry wheel on astro.com? Everything looks very crowded with all of the asteroids and aspects as they are right now. I can't really discern much.

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rayofnight
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posted April 03, 2020 08:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rayofnight     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by athenaia:
rayofnight, I hate to be picky, but can you please reduce the orbs on all of these by 20%? Also, can you use the other synastry wheel on astro.com? Everything looks very crowded with all of the asteroids and aspects as they are right now. I can't really discern much.


Scott/Mic Syn http://imgur.com/a/RWvOweA

Scott/Sis Syn http://imgur.com/a/aYUZrLv

Scott/Mic Com http://imgur.com/a/wghKTUg

Scott/Sis Com http://imgur.com/a/aYUZrLv

Scott/Mic Dav http://imgur.com/a/lEwlo2r

Scott/Sis Dav http://imgur.com/a/XhPDUsS

Okay, all done.

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rayofnight
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posted April 03, 2020 09:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rayofnight     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by vansio:
For clarification, you don’t quite say who is Scott to you. Your brother in law? Someone you feel possessive over? A family friend you hook up with every now and then?

By the way, I should mention that to me, a brother-in-law is ALWAYS absolutely off-limits. I would not even run such a scene thru my head. Just "nope". I also don't sleep with my friends of either gender because they are two distinct categories for me. Either/or. No multi-tasking allowed. But thanks for asking.

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athenaia
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posted April 04, 2020 10:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenaia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you so much!

Okay let me see

Well regarding you and Scott, right away I enjoy that you both have a tight Moon/Moon conjunction. Falls in his 1st house and your 4th house, so he felt instant attraction to you, you felt instant adoration/protective qualities towards him. He probably tells you things he's never told anyone else before. He has a way of understanding all the deeper psychological things you're saying. Very good aspect to have.

While your Suns are not in orb, they are opposite by sign. I love that you're the Cancer Sun and he's the Capricorn Sun - the genders are perfect for a Sun/Sun opposition. Also your ASC/DSC axis is conjunct his MC/IC axis.. deeply karmic synastry here. Incredible ability for both of you to relate to one another. It's rare to see synastry that pins all of these buttons.

Of course his Sun on your DSC means that you see him not just as an ideal partner but as an ideal paragon of man, period. What worries me is that Scott has a fraught natal chart.

From what I can see, he has a mutuable t-square between his Uranus/Pluto/Mars in Virgo, squaring his Mercury/SN/Venus in Sagittarius, also squaring his Chiron in Pisces.

I don't really like Mars sq Venus (granted they're not in orb, but still) in men. I'd say it shows a manipulative quality more often than not.

Also, he puts his Virgo stellium on your IC... Uranus (shake ups), Pluto (transformation) and Mars (aggression) on the most sensitive point in a person's chart (the IC), doubly so since your a Cancer Sun/ASC/Moon in H4 person. I think that he does have the potential to deeply hurt you if this was something he was interested in doing.

As for Scott, you don't put anything in his 7th house. But you do put your Mars in the 8th, which can go pretty far in my personal experience. I'm sure the intimacy here is incredible. Rather your Sun falls in his 10th, your Venus in his 11th, and your Mercury in his 9th... so while there IS mutual chemistry here, you both can feel this is fated, you are the one who is more emotionally affected if the synastry is anything to go by

So with Scott and the sister... actually not that great in comparison, I'd say. Their Moons are not in orb, and even if they were, they're only inconjunct by sign (Libra/Taurus), though they both have the ruler Venus. But her Moon does fall in his 7th house, so he can see her as a natural partner for him if he mentally chose to go there.

Sister has Neptune/Venus so she's a bit delusional with her choices in men, that seems to be par the course for her. Scott could probably take advantage of this if he's the type of man to do so. You say he makes comments about her to hurt you, I think that's the manifestation of all those malefic planets of his conjunct your IC - he knows actually where to punch and how.

Sister's Sun falls in his 3rd house, Venus in his 2nd, Mars in his 12th.. I think he does feel possessive over her in a weird way. Like she's some toy he can mess with it and it would be fun for him to do so. Their charts are so similar (as you mentioned their birthdays are days apart) I don't really see much going on here. If they were to get together hypothetically, not sure it would last based on the synastry. I think you're a better match for him.

Even your composite with him is better with Sun/Moon/Venus in Libra.

It's hard to tell but sister and him have Juno conjunct Sun in the composite? That is sort of dangerous, like for some reason they will see each other and natural partners for one another, even though you and Scott are more energetically and karmically compatible. Overall a tough call, but I'd keep your guard up and listen to your intuition.

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rayofnight
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posted April 05, 2020 04:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rayofnight     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by athenaia:
Thank you so much!

Okay let me see

Well regarding you and Scott, right away I enjoy that you both have a tight Moon/Moon conjunction. Falls in his 1st house and your 4th house, so he felt instant attraction to you, you felt instant adoration/protective qualities towards him. He probably tells you things he's never told anyone else before. He has a way of understanding all the deeper psychological things you're saying. Very good aspect to have.

While your Suns are not in orb, they are opposite by sign. I love that you're the Cancer Sun and he's the Capricorn Sun - the genders are perfect for a Sun/Sun opposition. Also your ASC/DSC axis is conjunct his MC/IC axis.. deeply karmic synastry here. Incredible ability for both of you to relate to one another. It's rare to see synastry that pins all of these buttons.

Of course his Sun on your DSC means that you see him not just as an ideal partner but as an ideal paragon of man, period. What worries me is that Scott has a fraught natal chart.

From what I can see, he has a mutuable t-square between his Uranus/Pluto/Mars in Virgo, squaring his Mercury/SN/Venus in Sagittarius, also squaring his Chiron in Pisces.

I don't really like Mars sq Venus (granted they're not in orb, but still) in men. I'd say it shows a manipulative quality more often than not.

Also, he puts his Virgo stellium on your IC... Uranus (shake ups), Pluto (transformation) and Mars (aggression) on the most sensitive point in a person's chart (the IC), doubly so since your a Cancer Sun/ASC/Moon in H4 person. I think that he does have the potential to deeply hurt you if this was something he was interested in doing.

As for Scott, you don't put anything in his 7th house. But you do put your Mars in the 8th, which can go pretty far in my personal experience. I'm sure the intimacy here is incredible. Rather your Sun falls in his 10th, your Venus in his 11th, and your Mercury in his 9th... so while there IS mutual chemistry here, you both can feel this is fated, you are the one who is more emotionally affected if the synastry is anything to go by

So with Scott and the sister... actually not that great in comparison, I'd say. Their Moons are not in orb, and even if they were, they're only inconjunct by sign (Libra/Taurus), though they both have the ruler Venus. But her Moon does fall in his 7th house, so he can see her as a natural partner for him if he mentally chose to go there.

Sister has Neptune/Venus so she's a bit delusional with her choices in men, that seems to be par the course for her. Scott could probably take advantage of this if he's the type of man to do so. You say he makes comments about her to hurt you, I think that's the manifestation of all those malefic planets of his conjunct your IC - he knows actually where to punch and how.

Sister's Sun falls in his 3rd house, Venus in his 2nd, Mars in his 12th.. I think he does feel possessive over her in a weird way. Like she's some toy he can mess with it and it would be fun for him to do so. Their charts are so similar (as you mentioned their birthdays are days apart) I don't really see much going on here. If they were to get together hypothetically, not sure it would last based on the synastry. I think you're a better match for him.

Even your composite with him is better with Sun/Moon/Venus in Libra.

It's hard to tell but sister and him have Juno conjunct Sun in the composite? That is sort of dangerous, like for some reason they will see each other and natural partners for one another, even though you and Scott are more energetically and karmically compatible. Overall a tough call, but I'd keep your guard up and listen to your intuition.


Thank you,athenaia. From the bottom of my heart. I never ask for help unless it's my last resort, but I have overloaded my brain with so much useless info on this subject, I couldn't get clarity even if I knew how to.

I hate that his Venus is in Sagittarius. I am trying to walk away for the last time and never look back because I just don't think I want to set myself up for that kind of heartbreak. And I feel a lot of betrayal from my sister regarding this situation because she knew how I felt about him and she didn't shut him down immediately. Instead, she used it to feed her ego.

Anyway, athenaia, thank you. Just.. thank you.

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Bismarck2
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posted April 05, 2020 04:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bismarck2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Look for neptune aspects in the synastry and composite. Also, 12th house overlays.

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athenegoddess
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posted April 05, 2020 06:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your composite is much better than theirs. I don't see much going on in it.

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rayofnight
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posted April 07, 2020 09:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rayofnight     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
Your composite is much better than theirs. I don't see much going on in it.

Thank you, athenegoddess. I appreciate you looking at it and offering your insight. I feel better about it now, though hyper-alert to changes around me, if you know what I mean.

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rayofnight
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posted April 07, 2020 09:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rayofnight     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Bismarck2:
Look for neptune aspects in the synastry and composite. Also, 12th house overlays. [/QUOTE

Thank you, Bismarck2. Not sure what an overlay is yet but will research it now.

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posted April 08, 2020 07:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bismarck2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by rayofnight:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Bismarck2:
[b]Look for neptune aspects in the synastry and composite. Also, 12th house overlays.
[/QUOTE

Thank you, Bismarck2. Not sure what an overlay is yet but will research it now.[/B]


An overlay is when your planets fall in a another person's house, or vice versa. For instance, if you have Mars in Gemini, and another person is Virgo rising. Most likely Gemini will be their 10th house, meaning your Mars would fall in their 10th house.

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