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ana_bee
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posted April 08, 2020 04:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ana_bee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Synastry (I’m inside)
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So this is a never ending story ..at least for me.
I was told before that he actually doesn’t fit me very well, so why am I so in love with him? We have a one-year old daughter by now. He left me while pregnant and started a new relationship, it was a very painful time for me, to say the least. I’ve never been this hurt by anyone before (emotionally).
But I managed to get over it, I even met his new girl by now. I started dating someone else by the time the two moved in together. I was over him, and we maintained a cordial ‘friendship’ for the sake of our child. But unfortunately the feelings are creeping up again lately..
It makes me very sad, because I’m afraid it will compromise my confidence and integrity that I’ve built up till now.

Can you see in the charts, why I’m the one who’s so hung up on him and this relationship??
Other than his Venus conj my Juno, I can’t see anything significant, tbh. I’ve had that aspect before with other people, I’ve also had much more things going on, concerning Venus, Sun and Mars, even great composite placements.. when the relationship was over it was over for me. So this is highly unusual for me, to forgive what he’s done and to even feel ‘love’ again..

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ana_bee
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posted April 08, 2020 07:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ana_bee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can someone please help me with this?

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vansio
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posted April 08, 2020 07:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vansio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Astrology aside, I think the reason why you have a hard time getting over him could easily be cultural. German men, forgive me for generalizing, seem to have less conscience... Your story sounds sadly classic for their breed. You are also probably put into the position of having to follow his rules of engagement, even after he’s left. Tip-toeing around a circumstance. His behavior is a blow to your values (birthing of a child) and that-in-itself is already difficult to reconcile. You’re not necessarily in love with him (doubtful that your ideal is to be with a person capable of abandoning you or a baby) rather you may be covering for being genuinely traumatized and want to “fix” it as the resolution. Positive general note, your current fixation on him will give you much energy to dig deep and heal your own subconscious familial history of dysfunction if you utilize these insistent feelings, by seeking out holistic help (Methode: psychoanalyse), as soon as you are ready to face, moreso for a bright future with your child. If I were you, if in Germany where it’s readily available and covered by insurance, I’d make an appointment with a therapist at my earliest convenience. 🤍 http://www.therapie.de Anything “hard to get over” is worth talking about. Your soul wants to learn from this—hence the will to co-create such a situation.

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anska5
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posted April 08, 2020 09:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anska5     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
you are not serious?! Don't know your background, whether you are German or how much comparison you have had....but I am German, have lived there as well as in the US, in Italy and now for the past 20 years in the UK..and while I have not had a wild dating life, I have plenty of comparison based on my own experience and that of friends and truly, 0 evidence for such a sweeping statement. Lovely men and ******** ...in every country. Didn't the US actor Billy Crudup leave his pregnant girlfriend Mary-Louise Parker for Claire Danes.. I'm sorry for your experience or that of your friends, but a British-Armenian friend just as one of my Italian friends for instance are convinced based on their experience that all German men are true gentlemen (which obviously is also wrong and an overly positive generalisation)

@ana_bee : I also can't see any particular reason in the synastry why you are so hung up on him. To me the clue is in your natal chart. I, like you, have saturn in the 1st house and so a few friends of me. While we all experience that natal position slightly differently, some as lack of confidence, some as fear of rejection, some as awkwardness in their self-expression. What we all have in common is that when we have truly been in love and THEN rejected, it went to the core and we had a much, much harder time to get over it and rebuild our fundemantal self-confidence. Not with every relationship all the time, but with those key connections, when we were all in, in love and fully trusted the person. And in your case, being left by your baby's daddy AND for another woman, it doesnt get any worse in terms of let down of trust.

P.S. It's said you look at where the composite chart planets fall in an individual's natal chart, to see how the relationship affects you. And that often explains how differently two people perceive a relationship. For instance when the composite planets fall in someone's 7th and 8th house, this relationship will affect them deeply, have a transfomring effect and they may few it as a true relationship with marriage potential. If the composite planets fall in the other person's 11th house, they may just few it as friendship. I remember long time ago there was actually a case like this on lindland, where even the synastry looked great and the woman just couldnt understand why to here this was just a friendship (composite planets fell in her 11th house).

In your case the composite sun is in gemini and moon, venus and mars are in cancer and they ALL hit your 7th and especially your 8th house. So this relationship affects you very deeply no doubt.

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vansio
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posted April 08, 2020 09:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vansio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@anska5 Männer sind Schweine i prefaced it with forgive me for generalizing because I know it’s a touchy subject to criticize gender constructs developed within a culture. Neuroticism (effeminate) ≠ “Gentleman”

Maybe breed was a provocative word but we are “bred” by our culture.

I just know a lot of German ‘illegitimate’ families, friends themselves or their own children, and it’s not considered a big deal (naturally, psychology would say otherwise). In the US, this illegitimacy is usually the case of class-issue (repercussions), but not so much over there—it’s social. The European state helps new parents either way.

I tried to give our friend some perspective that her pressing concern in the aftermath could be that her own deeply-ingrained ‘values’ are at stake, and the possibility that it’s cultural came to mind when I noticed she was from Kazakstan, considering the majority of her native country is Sunnī Muslim.

The “lower” conscience bit is not for romance. Because of the insane amount of behavioral pressure and bureaucratic regulation, I’ve seen many individuals easily justify their lifelong ‘criminal’ or abnormal activity, whether white-lying to authority or each other. There was a stark contrast in regard to this—some who would shake at the thought of breaking the rules, and others who were quite proud of their finesse. Kind of thrilling to witness. Anyways, my two cents. Because of the way he picked up another girl while impregnating one, I assumed which spectrum he fell on.

What she’s going through is disheartening and again, astrology even culture aside, I would hope she takes care to find support nearby.

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