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julyjuly
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posted May 13, 2020 09:55 AM
  
Mine birth time is exact, his can be wrong some minutes Here is the composite http://ibb.co/kXZ592K IP: Logged |
Hikaru29
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posted May 14, 2020 10:42 AM
May I first know what kinda relationship this is? Charts must reflect real-life situation, i.e. I can't say you're in love with your Math teacher just because you have a Sun-Venus conjunction. Right off the bat, Sun in 12H isn't a nice placement. I'm not saying it cannot last but this usually shows a rs which is unequal, e.g. it can be one person always having to help/take care of the other. Although your Sun/Mercury/Venus conjunct/opposite Uranus shows an electrifying connection (although it can also be erratic/unstable) with plenty of affection and Jupiter trine brings joy & optimism and Saturn brings commitment. IP: Logged |
julyjuly
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posted May 14, 2020 12:16 PM
Thanks for replying.
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julyjuly
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posted May 15, 2020 04:52 PM
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julyjuly
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posted May 17, 2020 09:21 AM
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viviette
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posted May 19, 2020 03:43 PM
it might be worth posting the Davison chart ?IP: Logged |
julyjuly
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posted May 20, 2020 03:11 AM
Thank you Viviette. As his birth time is not exact to the minute the ascendant can differ some degrees.Libra ascendant, Sun and Venus in 7th house. Moon in Taurus 8th house. Sun and Venus sextile Saturn in 9th house (0 degree orb). The Davison chart
http://ibb.co/gV9tRR2
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Hikaru29
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posted May 20, 2020 07:54 AM
How far off is his birth time? As this might change the planets placements and it makes a difference, as right now Sun/Mercury/Chiron in 12th (conjunct the ASC) opposing Uranus/Venus on the DSC axis minus some points. If they're not in those placements it's better even though Uranus still causes fluctuations. Anyway, why do you believe that you and him will be in a relationship even though it's been so many years and he's still keeping a distance? IP: Logged |
julyjuly
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posted May 21, 2020 02:12 AM
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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
How far off is his birth time? As this might change the planets placements and it makes a difference, as right now Sun/Mercury/Chiron in 12th (conjunct the ASC) opposing Uranus/Venus on the DSC axis minus some points. If they're not in those placements it's better even though Uranus still causes fluctuations. Anyway, why do you believe that you and him will be in a relationship even though it's been so many years and he's still keeping a distance?
As I wrote in the first post I think it's some minutes and as mine are exact I don't think there will be much difference. The orb between Uranus and Sun-Venus is 7 degrees.
On the other Sun-Venus conjunction/opposition is 0,02 degrees.
The conjunction between Sun-Venus and Mercury is 1 degree.
The trine between Sun-Venus and Jupiter is 1 degree.
The sextile between Sun-Venus and Saturn is 4 degrees
Isn't these aspect stabilizing?
Uranus may be conjunct descendant but the closest aspect it makes to a planet is a trine to Saturn 3 degrees. Isn't this also a stabilizing aspect? To be able to make changes when its required?
Does these much tighter positive aspects not count?
Except from Moon-Jupiter square and Sun-Venus-Mercury square NN (which can be positive) there are no other squares in the composite chart.
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Hikaru29
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posted May 22, 2020 07:22 AM
I don't read aspects piecemeal...I do look at the overall. Pay more attention to planets on the angles. Even at wider orb they still play out as long as it's within orb. Uranus conj DSC brings an unstable, on/off quality to a rs, especially it is also conjunct Venus and opposing Sun. Yes, the trine to Saturn helps but 1 trine against 3 hard aspects? Hmm...I don't know why you say you like 12H composite Sun. Have you experienced a rs with this placement before? My friend has a 12H natal Sun and two relationships with 12H comp Sun. Even though she should be used to this placement but both were very difficult relationships. I didn't say a rs can't happen or it won't be long-term... just saying you will have difficulties associated to this placement. People involved often can't see what's plaguing them although it's very obvious to others (which is the exact scenario for my friend's case). quote:
I know he is interested from some of his reactions, posts on the social media.
Has he said anything to you directly? You said he's "waiting for the right time"... what is the right time? I'm not trying to rain on your parade but IME men will take action if they're really interested. If they're just prancing around, I won't be so quick to assume. I hope I'm wrong here though. Good luck.IP: Logged |
julyjuly
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posted May 24, 2020 07:32 AM
I have in my three previous posts explained why I like sun in 12th house. We are all different. Some may like deep psychic relationships others don't, some may like plutonian relationships others don't etc. I don't think it is right to question other peoples choices. I have not experienced a love relationship with sun in 12th house and it seems like you haven't it either as you give example of a relationship one of your friends has experienced. Every relationship is different. There may be difficulties but I think with a tight Venus-Sun-Mercury-Chiron stellium these can be overcome as this stellium can point to an intellectual, communicative and loving couple. Uranus conjunct descendant can create an unstable and on-off relationship but it can also mean other things. Nadia Gilchrist writes;
The highest expression of Uranus is ideals for, and about, the collective. If Uranus conjunct the composite Descendent can be expressed outwards on a joint mission (such as improving conditions for other people), there will be an external goal to keep this couple occupied and together. This can be the couple that unites (7th House) to rebel (Uranus) against something (in a constructive way, of course). Robert Hand writes regarding Uranus square ascendant (which I think can be similar to Uranus conjunct descendant):
In an otherwise good chart, the issue of rebellion may mean that you have come together in defiance of someone else. If you are lovers, for example, you may be rebelling against parents. Such a relationship exists simply as a form of rebellion against established standards. This can be an excellent binding force between you, until you have finished rebelling. As long as the disruptive energy of Uranus is focused outward, you will not have any great problems between you. But the day will come when you have to deal with each other, at which point you are likely to have the problems described in the first paragraph.
The only way to work with Uranus is to be very open to elements that are outside of your usual way of looking at things, and this includes elements of each other. If the two of you can broaden your views of the world and accept new challenges, you should be able to handle the energy of this aspect.
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Hikaru29
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posted May 24, 2020 10:53 AM
Don't get upset just because people didn't say what you like to hear. I was with my bestie through her darkest days so I can say for sure I know what she experienced. You clearly also have not experienced a 12H rs, so why are you so sure you'll like it? Take it with a pinch of salt. It sounds like you are convinced this rs will happen and it will be a good one. If so, then you should proceed w/o astrology influencing you. And since you quoted Robert Hand, then pls re-read this part: "But the day will come when you have to deal with each other...". My parents have Uranus conjunct ASC square Sun/Mars so they also have a rather Uranian rs. I can share my observation of their rs if you want but clearly you don't wanna know my views, lol. IP: Logged |
julyjuly
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posted May 24, 2020 11:27 AM
I am not upset I am just questioning how Uranus 7 degree aspects to Venus-Sun, Uranus conjunct descendant plus sun in 12th house (which is bad based on your friends relationship) can outweight all other positive aspects. Anyway thanks for sharing your experiences and best regards
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julyjuly
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posted May 26, 2020 08:34 AM
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