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Topic: Start of rel’ship relevance of composite midpoint, later evolving into Davison?
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viviette
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posted May 26, 2020 12:38 PM
  
Hi all,
Do you have any experience about the Davison chart feeling right « over time » ?IP: Logged |
CardinalT-Square
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posted May 27, 2020 12:43 AM
This my personal opinion and experience, but the way I see these two charts is the Composite Chart shows how things start out, and how other people judge your relationship when you're together. The Davison Chart is what you two are destined to become, maybe in this lifetime, maybe a future one, their is no way at the moment to predict when you two will achieve what the Davison is showing you.As a side note, don't use the midpoint method, especially if you guys are from different countries, stick with "Reference Place Method". Just make sure you put the person closest to where you first met first when displaying both Charts. They'll paint a far more accurate picture for you guys. IP: Logged |
viviette
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posted May 27, 2020 03:45 AM
quote:
Originally posted by CardinalT-Square:
[B]The Composite Chart shows how things start out,
and how other people judge your relationship when you're together.
The Davison Chart is what you two are destined to become, maybe in this lifetime, maybe a future one, their is no way at the moment to predict when you two will achieve what the Davison is showing you.
Thanks Cardinal T
I feel the Davison has been « activated » but the only difference between the Davison and the composite ref place is :
~Mercury and Venus have +opp house action
.. Mercury flips between 12th and 6th Sag
and Venus darts between being conjunct Moon in Scorpio 5th and then over to Taurus 11th. ~And Mars, as mentioned previously, goes from 2nd house Cancer in standard Composite to 10th house Aries in Davison. quote:
As a side note, don't use the midpoint method, especially if you guys are from different countries, stick with "Reference Place Method". Just make sure you put the person closest to where you first met first when displaying both Charts. They'll paint a far more accurate picture for you guys.
Using our birth data, there was no difference between the charts using composite midpoint method changed out to the closest reference place of meeting. « Just make sure you put the person closest to where you first met first when displaying both Charts.«
do I also have to change my birthplace to the town where we met which is near his birthplace ? IP: Logged |
CardinalT-Square
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posted May 27, 2020 04:11 AM
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Originally posted by viviette:
Using our birth data, there was no difference between the charts using composite midpoint method changed out to the closest reference place of meeting.
Did you also select "Reference Point Method" for the Davison Chart also? Their should be a small difference for the Angles, Vertex, and Moon using Ref. Pl. method vs. Midpoint Method for both charts. (Assumming both Natal Charts are accurate to the minute/seconds). quote:
Do I also have to change my birthplace to the town where we met which is near his birthplace?
No, because your energies don't change with location, you are the same person you were the day you were born no matter where you are. Just use his hometown as "The Point of Origin" for both the Composite and Davison Charts. IP: Logged |
Hikaru29
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posted May 27, 2020 07:36 AM
When I used the ref place method, our angles shifted, Vertex is now at a different point but the rest of the aspects remained largely the same.Can someone tell what comp Juno conjunct DSC mean? @viviette
I've read about this theory, that a couple becomes more and more like their Davison in the long run. Our Davison chart looks better so I actually hope that it will be the case, haha. We have Mars square Saturn opp Uranus in composite but this isn't in our Davison. In Davison we've Mars square Jupiter sextile Uranus. We've only gotten serious less than a year back so it may be too early to tell. IP: Logged |
viviette
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posted May 27, 2020 08:59 AM
quote:
Originally posted by CardinalT-Square:
Did you also select "Reference Point Method" for the Davison Chart also? Their should be a small difference for the Angles, Vertex, and Moon using Ref. Pl. method vs. Midpoint Method for both charts. (Assumming both Natal Charts are accurate to the minute/seconds).
No Cardinal T, I didn’t !
It was the Davison « corrected » I used from the start. Ok I have just selected the Davison relationship chart with ref place - if that’s the right one ?
Ok and the houses have changed
now have Venus conjunct Saturn in 12th 😮
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viviette
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posted May 27, 2020 09:42 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Hikaru29:
Can someone tell what comp Juno conjunct DSC
Composite Juno on DC may be good for finding mutual « agreement » ? quote:
[B] @viviette
I've read about this theory, that a couple becomes more and more like their Davison in the long run. Our Davison chart looks better so I actually hope that it will be the case, haha. We have Mars square Saturn opp Uranus in composite but this isn't in our Davison. In Davison we've Mars square Jupiter sextile Uranus. We've only gotten serious less than a year back so it may be too early to tell.
Well Hikaru I hope the good aspects come into play for your couple 
I am noticing a changing dynamic and it’s not many years into the rel’ship
But i know I am going to unravel this as it perplexes me
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viviette
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posted May 27, 2020 09:53 AM
Composite 6th/12th house emphasis:
Inequality and lack of boundaries.
« It is important that the partners look outside the relationship to have all their needs taken care of, as one will surely not receive those within a relationship with this type of house emphasis »This is exactly the summary of our rel’ship .
Could Venus conjunct Saturn in 12th do so much I wonder ? MC Chiron, gulp. It feels like he is somehow compromising when he spends time with me and often I feel invisible or unheard like he has a more important mission
and the prob is that I wanted to find much « within » the rel’ship. Cos if my rel’ship is supposed to be with the outside what’s the point ..
I know it’s my own perception about rel’ships - what I would consider a successful one and it hasn’t always been this way - before I needed no one
But in my 40s now I am thinking more seriously about partnership. He asked me to marry him but I don’t want to be an invisible wife. I guess I have to change my way of thinking for it to work
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Hikaru29
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posted May 27, 2020 11:40 AM
quote:
Originally posted by viviette:
Composite Juno on DC may be good for finding mutual « agreement » ?
Thanks, I found this on cafeastrology. Sounds pretty good to me. In Davison we have Vertex conjunct DSC which again seems like a good thing, lol. Juno Opposition Asc.: This very important partnership will have some kind of contract or bond, possibly marriage which will be integral to how you present as a couple. Others will also see you as a united force and a tight couple. As vulnerable humans we need to work together and partnerships are a foundation of our relationships with others. So we need to develop these to serve and protect our vulnerabilities. In this context of safety, we can grow the relationship in love and trust together. This should be a long term relationship where you are seen as a strong partnership and can foster other partnerships. quote:
I am noticing a changing dynamic and it’s not many years into the rel’ship
One thing I did notice is that our cMars opp Uranus didn't turn out as bad as what the interpretation says. It says that we're too erratic and will be constantly fighting. We turned out more like our Davison Mars sextile Uranus. IP: Logged |
viviette
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posted May 27, 2020 01:14 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Hikaru29:
...In Davison we have Vertex conjunct DSC which again seems like a good thing, lol.Juno Opposition Asc.:
I found this about composite angles: « The Composite Angles Asc/Desc and MC/IC of the composite chart
are the crucial foundation and structure of the relationship. The Ascendant axis represents the outer expression of the relationship where the couple meets each other and together meets others. The Midheaven axis is the very core and integrity of the relationship, where the couple will build a structure together in the world, whether home, family or business. These axes then become the ‘bones’ of the relationship and then the other planets help to flesh it out. Any planetary aspect to these angles figure largely and significantly in the life of the partnership. The more and better aspects to these angles the more significant the partnership.« IP: Logged |
Hikaru29
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posted May 28, 2020 02:31 AM
^ I find the ASC/MC more an outward appearance and may not represent the actual rs itself (unless other aspects support it), whereas the IC/DSC are what they're like within. E.g. I know couples with Venus conj cASC/MC who are no more loving than other couples but on the outward they appear very loving. Another e.g. is my parents who have cUranus conj ASC. They appear like they lead separate lives (going about their own ways) but they actually have a rather close relationship that only people close to them know.IP: Logged |
Randall
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Randall
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