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MilaBirkin
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posted June 12, 2020 09:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MilaBirkin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We have a very close friendship and we met nine years ago, but in these nine years we had at least five times where we stopped talking for a while and they were always 'thanks' to her. She seems to want to create tension, bad times and to make people leave her. Every time someone gives her advice to help her, she becomes defensive and starts arguing, even for small and stupid reasons. It seems those children who believe that they are rebellious with a cause but they are not. Lately we are having bad days in our friendship and I feel that we are different now; she doesn't take care of herself or the people she loves, I take great care of myself and the people I love. I try every day to do things that will help me in the future and I like to learn and I'm disciplined, she does nothing and is not a bit disciplined. I'm very interested in activism, she is only interested in not feeling bored day by day and she is not interested in getting informed. I'm not very interested in romance, she can't live without having someone to spend romantic moments with.
Not everything is bad, because otherwise we would not have a friendship of nine years but I really feel that now it is all worse, although she literally ignored me when my mum got cancer and died and that hurt a lot but still, these days I only see her getting worse and worse, it seems like her inner child is hurt and she can't grow up. She seems like one of those very old people who have a hateful face and she was always a very outgoing and funny person, although she was always someone who changed moods from time to time. She is not stable and is selfish.
Lately I feel like I'm worshiping her past self and not what she is like now. Will this be because because she is starting to feel her Saturn Return?

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Randall
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posted June 14, 2020 05:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Librapurr
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posted June 14, 2020 08:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Librapurr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Both of you have been having hard transits to your moons this year. In addition to Saturn return, a lot of transits going through her relationship house. Maybe, you need to accept a relationship is her big concern at this stage of life.

Mars opposite Mercury - lack of patience in communication. Also, Pluto sq. Mars DW - pretty aggressive. She is more Saturnian, and you - Uranian what create more differences. Your Leo influence might be common ground, but Leo pride - more problems.
Composite looks extra tough. Bunch of hard Pluto, Saturn and Chiron. Also, grand cross. I’m not much experienced with patterns. Power struggle, lessons, Karma, and bond
Composite Sun in 12th, Taurus- something hidden, relationship itself or part of each other identify. Hard to be comfortable, stubbornness. Need to try seeing the relationship for what it is.

It’s definitely complicated and challenging friendship what requires work and patience. Accept you have different interests and priorities, try to meet in the middle.

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MilaBirkin
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posted June 14, 2020 09:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MilaBirkin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Librapurr:
Both of you have been having hard transits to your moons this year. In addition to Saturn return, a lot of transits going through her relationship house. Maybe, you need to accept a relationship is her big concern at this stage of life.

Mars opposite Mercury - lack of patience in communication. Also, Pluto sq. Mars DW - pretty aggressive. She is more Saturnian, and you - Uranian what create more differences. Your Leo influence might be common ground, but Leo pride - more problems.
Composite looks extra tough. Bunch of hard Pluto, Saturn and Chiron. Also, grand cross. I’m not much experienced with patterns. Power struggle, lessons, Karma, and bond
Composite Sun in 12th, Taurus- something hidden, relationship itself or part of each other identify. Hard to be comfortable, stubbornness. Need to try seeing the relationship for what it is.

It’s definitely complicated and challenging friendship what requires work and patience. Accept you have different interests and priorities, try to meet in the middle.


Thanks for the help!

Well, the thing is that 'having a relationship' has been her only concern since 2012, I think, not something new. It's worrying, because she doesn't even care about herself and for a long time that made me sad. Why do you say she is Saturnian? She has Sun opposite Saturn but almost nobody could pay attention to that, because it is at 10 degrees and she only has moon trine Saturn. I don't think that makes her very Saturnian. I only see her partner with a lot of influence of Saturn, Uranus and Neptune.
I consider our friendship to be very beautiful, til she is offended by something. I have no problem accepting differences, she is the one who can't and that's why she stops talking to me maybe once every two years or something like that. I can try to maintain a good relationship but we are at different levels and it is very different from previous years, so I thought maybe it's because of Saturn.
Again, thanks, thanks for the reply!

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Librapurr
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posted June 15, 2020 10:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Librapurr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
She has Saturnian Mars, Venus (Virgo) and Saturn in 7th (+Capricorn) so she is more Saturnian in relationships, and you have Saturn in your personality + Neptune- what attract her in people. However, your Neptune oppos. her Sun so you cannot see her clearly and might project some delusions on each other (+ 12th house Sun composite)). It sounds like you’re disappointed in her now what is the classic hard Neptune script. However, you have a lot of easy Neptune aspects in composite what give that beautiful feeling in the interaction.
In addition, her moon opposite transit Chiron what cause emotional isolation, and overreacting , easily offended. From your description, she might be depressed.

Edit: Ruler of her mars/Venus in 7th house + trine moon would explain her big concentration on relationships

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