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posted June 17, 2020 06:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CardinalT-Square     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does anyone here know much about squares to the Lunar Nodes in the Natal Chart? Are they really considered a "Skipped-Step" from a previous lifetime? What can you guys tell me about someone who has Sun square the Nodes in her Natal, and then I come along with my Venus conjunct her Sun at 6.5° orb in Synastry, and square her Nodes at 4.5° orb? I too have Natal Sun square the Nodes, but she doesn't have anything conjunct my Sun, just Uranus and Neptune opposite my Sun. Would these aspects be ideal for something long-lasting? We've only known each other for nearly 1.5 years, but we see each other everyday we work together. On top of all that, my Saturn conjuncts her North Node as well at 4° orb, and squares my Venus Natally and her Sun, My Saturn and her Sun are at a 6° orb.

Would Parallels/Contra-Parallels count for anything if in aspect to a Planet/Luminary that squares the Nodes also? Her South Node Parallels my Sun and her North Node Contra-Parallels my Sun.

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posted June 18, 2020 04:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted June 19, 2020 02:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for antiphon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Squares to your nodal axis are described by some authors as areas that you need to focus on in order to bring balance to your nodal axis. It's like the direct path to your soul growth is blocked, so you have to take a detour. With Venus conjunct the Sun, squaring the nodes, your love, appreciation and attraction for her could be beneficial. Saturn conjunct the north node isn't positive because it could limit her expression and her growth.

There are many different roles that other people can play in our soul growth. Some of those relationships are lasting, some aren't. For some people, a romantic relationship is an important part, and for others it isn't.

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posted June 20, 2020 03:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CardinalT-Square     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Antiphon! Additionally, my Venus is in my 3rd House, her Sun is in her 10th House, on the boarder of her 11th House by ~1.5°. My Venus would therefore be in her 10th House and her Sun would be in my 3rd House, both in Virgo, both my 3rd House and her 10th House cusps are in Leo. My Saturn is in my 6th House in Sagittarius, her North Node is in her 2nd House in Sagittarius. My 6th House cusp is in Sagittarius, her 2nd House cusp is in Scorpio.

How do you think all of this would be important to the 2 of us Antiphon? Anyone else that cares to share their experiences with someone similar are welcome too.

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posted June 20, 2020 08:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lunesoleil2020     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by CardinalT-Square:
Does anyone here know much about squares to the Lunar Nodes in the Natal Chart? Are they really considered a "Skipped-Step" from a previous lifetime? What can you guys tell me about someone who has Sun square the Nodes in her Natal,

Hello CardinalT-square

Mars in Pisces arrives at mid-point of the lunar nodes, an opportunity to discover the effects. A square with lunar nodes is always problematic in the sense that it will accentuate the faults of the planet. In the example of the Sun, the person would have had the faults of Leo, too egocentric ?, He alone has the truth?, ... but this will serve him by sticks ... There would be a lot of humility to develop to counter contradictory influences.

Then in what direction is the Sun going?
● from the north node to the south node?
■ from the south node to the north node? This is important in the interpretation ...

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posted June 20, 2020 08:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CardinalT-Square     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Hello CardinalT-square

Mars in Pisces arrives at mid-point of the lunar nodes, an opportunity to discover the effects. A square with lunar nodes is always problematic in the sense that it will accentuate the faults of the planet. In the example of the Sun, the person would have had the faults of Leo, too egocentric ?, He alone has the truth?, ... but this will serve him by sticks ... There would be a lot of humility to develop to counter contradictory influences.


So we both have problems with our pride/egos? I know for sure I do, but not to the point where I can't admit I'm wrong about something, I just usually know things before others tell me, and get annoyed when I hear the same thing from several people. I have Sun in Cancer in my First House, Ascendant is also in Cancer.


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Then in what direction is the Sun going?
● from the north node to the south node?
■ from the south node to the north node? This is important in the interpretation ...


My Sun is making it's way closer to my South Node in Libra. Her Virgo Sun is making it's way closer to her North Node in Sag. Same with my Virgo Venus and her Virgo Mercury. Why does this matter though?

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What about... a Leo Ascendant square the Scorpio-Taurus nodal axis?!

And every leo moon that conjuncts it from my 12th changes my life?

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posted May 20, 2023 11:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I thought I’d mention that the SUN cannot be square the Nodes in the traditional Evolutionary School sense. It instead denotes a *forming* skipped step in the present incarnation.

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posted May 20, 2023 11:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by CardinalT-Square:

Would Parallels/Contra-Parallels count for anything if in aspect to a Planet/Luminary that squares the Nodes also? Her South Node Parallels my Sun and her North Node Contra-Parallels my Sun.


PLL/CPL are a whole other deal, but are highly significant when it comes to reaffirming prior lessons. I’ve found they’re common in the ‘skipped step’ population (which is about 80% in general) and may show this theme of inconsistent development of the Nodes. Hence, the skipped steps.

PLL are where we have a ‘conjunction’ of latitude, or specifically by declination, which don’t behave as conjunctions do by longitude. They’re not karmic in the sense they encompass debts. Rather, they’re the confirmation of previously acted upon energy, or as I like to view it, reaffirmation.

PLL are internal, whereas CPL are *external* which shows how they’re more likely to manifest.

A synastric SNODE PLL SUN isn’t the same as karma with the Sun to be worked out in the current lifeline; instead, we can think of it better as ‘here we are again; what can we expound upon or do differently to build further upon this experience?’ It’s not that a debt must be repaid as much as a continuation. As it’s PLL, this is more likely to be internal to the connection, as opposed to involving third parties acting upon it as outside forces.

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posted May 20, 2023 02:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi, Auby!

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posted May 21, 2023 09:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for comdoc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have natal Leo Saturn stationary direct in 12H square Taurus NN at MC and Scorpio SN at IC. Natal 12H Mars (chart ruler) is parallel Saturn.

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