posted June 25, 2020 08:32 AM            

Moon in 3rd, Venus in 9th
But I can't use my grand fire trine. I am a people pleaser (moon opp venus), can't act on my feelings (e.g approach girl that I like) so I didn't have relationships so far.

posted July 07, 2020 01:01 PM            

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Originally posted by DecimaLife:
Without posting chart, Does anyone know how to solve moon opposite venus as a general aspect?

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posted July 09, 2020 02:24 AM            

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Originally posted by DecimaLife:
Are u magician? thats my chart... It is very close.Thank you for effort making this chart.

Okey, how to work with kite aspect in this chart?. What is it represents? What should I do?

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Theoretically, the Mars-Pluto trine indicates an already developed ability - and the sextile from them to Venus indicate potential talents which, when developed, will help considerably in the achieving of your Moon-in-Leo. ... So, to resolve the issue(s) of the Moon-Venus opposition you would identify what those potential/sextile talents are - and work on developing them.

However, that task is complicated by your kite also being modified by its aspects to Mercury, Jupiter, Uranus and Neptune.

posted July 10, 2020 05:44 PM            

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Originally posted by DecimaLife:
I always thought the apex of the kite is most important (venus), but you said it is the moon. I will check moon first."The three planets in the small blue triangle are working together to achieve the natal purpose/"promise" of moon" you said, why not they are working to promise of venus. Is it how kite pattern works?

Just like you said I need to check progressions, transits etc to gain clear view of my aspects. Thank you for detailed analysis.

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Is it how kite pattern works?

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"The planet at the Kite's tail works like a tension ruler that lies opposite the small triangle in the other half of the horoscope, which is why its needs and latent abilities make their presence felt. This planet usually indicates the task to be accomplished by the opposition. We (the Hubers) also call this the peak planet, to which everything in the Kite Figure points or is orientated. The other three planets must work towards the development of the peak planet. Both uniquely blue influenced planets (on the wings) have a lot of available substance according to their sign and house quality; they can make the correct choices without much effort and channel misdirected energies into positive development." ... (Extracted from Aspect Pattern Astrology, by the Hubers.]

"From an esoteric point of view, we (the Hubers) talk about an initiation figure, in which the final state of a certain stage of development has been reached. It is common knowledge that at each end of an evolutionary stage there is an initiation that reaches closure after a development. This results in the stabilising of a state of awareness as symbolised by the Kite. But not everyone with a Kite has already reached this stage." ... [Extracted from Aspect Pattern Astrology, by the Hubers.]

posted July 12, 2020 09:36 PM            

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Originally posted by DecimaLife:
Hi everyone,
I have a kite aspect pattern:
Moon (Leo) trine Pluto(Sag) trine Mars(Aries)
Moon (Leo) opposite Venus( Aquarius) which sextile both mars and pluto.

Moon in 3rd, Venus in 9th
But I can't use my grand fire trine. I am a people pleaser (moon opp venus), can't act on my feelings (e.g approach girl that I like) so I didn't have relationships so far.

How to solve moon opposite venus.? How can I balance this position and activate my kite?

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What did you read about Moon Venus opp? (Why) Do you think this aspect alone is responsible for not having a girlfriend yet?

posted July 14, 2020 03:38 AM            

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Originally posted by Seline:
What did you read about Moon Venus opp? (Why) Do you think this aspect alone is responsible for not having a girlfriend yet?

I have it as a part of my kite with Moon as the focal point too

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Because your needs(Moon) doesn't match with your tastes(Venus). Sometimes I feel sexually attracted to one girl, but not emotionally attached to her. Vice versa applies to. Other scenario is that the girls I like is not approved or appropriate for my family

posted July 23, 2020 02:21 AM            

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Originally posted by DecimaLife:
Because your needs(Moon) doesn't match with your tastes(Venus). Sometimes I feel sexually attracted to one girl, but not emotionally attached to her. Vice versa applies to. Other scenario is that the girls I like is not approved or appropriate for my family :D

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Yes, that's how it usually manifests. Women's charts are blessed with few extras. Yay.

If your chart's like the one Graham posted, you'll have to rein in your Venus first in order to have your Moon satisfied.
Except, you'll have to put much more effort cause of the sign and aspects that your Venus receives, with special emphasis on Venus/Neptune (and Moon/Neptune). Uranus can go either way.
Moon Venus opposition by itself is not a huge problem. It's about compromise, that comes with experience/age. You should use this aspect as level, just think outside of the box and keep in mind that relationships come in many forms.

Regarding kite, it's nice money-making kite (most likely your life calling) where's obvious that your long term/life partner will be your business partner too (or instrumental in some way but I think you already knew that :) Whatever abilities/talents you have, you'll manifest them through your 9th house Ve/Ne/Ur (your tools and the stage), with a proper human support and in a way that makes your Moon most happy - assuming you have previously cracked your Venus.

posted July 23, 2020 04:36 PM            

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Originally posted by Seline:
Yes, that's how it usually manifests. Women's charts are blessed with few extras. Yay.

If your chart's like the one Graham posted, you'll have to rein in your Venus first in order to have your Moon satisfied.
Except, you'll have to put much more effort cause of the sign and aspects that your Venus receives, with special emphasis on Venus/Neptune (and Moon/Neptune). Uranus can go either way.
Moon Venus opposition by itself is not a huge problem. It's about compromise, that comes with experience/age. You should use this aspect as level, just think outside of the box and keep in mind that relationships come in many forms.

Regarding kite, it's nice money-making kite (most likely your life calling) where's obvious that your long term/life partner will be your business partner too (or instrumental in some way but I think you already knew that Whatever abilities/talents you have, you'll manifest them through your 9th house Ve/Ne/Ur (your tools and the stage), with a proper human support and in a way that makes your Moon most happy - assuming you have previously cracked your Venus.

p.s. The family will have to come to terms with your choices.

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posted August 03, 2020 12:17 AM            

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Originally posted by DecimaLife:
Agreed, there are much harder aspects more than Moon opp Venus.
Venus-Neptune can cause delusions about relationships but still overall not very bad aspect.
I am curious about kite aspect pattern also how does your kite manifest in your life if you don't mind sharing ?

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Sure, I don't mind. Sorry for the late reply, btw

My kite is Cancer AC/Moon opposition Capricorn Venus/Neptune/DC, trine Pisces MC/Mercury and trine Scorpio Pluto.

In everyday life, it works like this - I work in Arts and Entertainment industry (Grand Water trine, Venus rules 5th/11th, Ve/Ne on DC). My work is public (Moon in 1st, Venus aspects) and to the most it's an acquired taste (5th H Pluto + substantial Uranus influence). I'm my own boss (Jupiter and NN in 10th Pisces/Aries) and I occasionally teach and mentor in my field (Mercury/MC). My kite contains planets related to marriage too, so it became complete when I entered into a relationship with my now husband, whom I met through work (DC ruler in 6th) and who is my business partner too (Venus, 6th + 10th).
That's kite on the surface level.

The thing is, kite is of karmic nature and to truly activate it you must pass the karmic lesson(s) first. Look at the cusp of the 11th house and its ruler and aspects (most recent past life), it shows what or who the lesson is. For me, it was majorly my Moon/Mars square (Aries Mars) and due to the tension created by that aspect there was no clear communication between planets in opposition. I used Ve/Ne as means of masking the issues or to overindulge myself. My chart is under heavy Saturn influence, so a lot of those issues I couldn't resolve before my Saturn Return, when I did a 180.

If the goal is for the planets in opposition to have flowing communication, I had to look at participating aspects separately - Moon/Mars square were all types of family violence. Moon-Venus/Neptune opposition were issues with sexuality, commitment, marriage, motherhood and so on. Venus/Neptune manifested as extreme perfectionism. I was a mess with the stick up my a**.

So, it was important to me to find the right professional outlet for all that was repressed and to be independent and successful, cause I'd been told all my life that I amount to nothing. That was my way of resolving the issue of self-worth that blocked me from forming any deeper intimate relationships. All my romantic relationships prior to my husband were very short-lived cause I truly believed that I was unlovable. What I find amusing is that my AC is part of the kite but none of this was visible on the outside. My behavior was always labeled as selfish, eccentric or cocky. Also, I'm Lilith Rising too and that made the problems worse in a ways I wouldn't want it to happen to anyone (and finding solutions much harder).

As of recently, I began to talk openly about the experiences I went through ("my karmic lessons"), mostly thanks to my husband's support, and as a result of it I became actively engaged in organizations dealing with victims of abuse, with a special focus on helping children. I guess that would be the true purpose of my kite? My Moon is right now in a very happy place (until some wretched transit or progression happens, or something).

posted August 03, 2020 12:26 AM            

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Originally posted by mee_chryssa:
I have a question.

I have this aspect in the 9D chart, I should consider the above comments for myself too?

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posted August 06, 2020 02:40 PM            

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Sure, I don't mind. Sorry for the late reply, btw

My kite is Cancer AC/Moon opposition Capricorn Venus/Neptune/DC, trine Pisces MC/Mercury and trine Scorpio Pluto.

In everyday life, it works like this - I work in Arts and Entertainment industry (Grand Water trine, Venus rules 5th/11th, Ve/Ne on DC). My work is public (Moon in 1st, Venus aspects) and to the most it's an acquired taste (5th H Pluto + substantial Uranus influence). I'm my own boss (Jupiter and NN in 10th Pisces/Aries) and I occasionally teach and mentor in my field (Mercury/MC). My kite contains planets related to marriage too, so it became complete when I entered into a relationship with my now husband, whom I met through work (DC ruler in 6th) and who is my business partner too (Venus, 6th + 10th).
That's kite on the surface level.

The thing is, kite is of karmic nature and to truly activate it you must pass the karmic lesson(s) first. Look at the cusp of the 11th house and its ruler and aspects (most recent past life), it shows what or who the lesson is. For me, it was majorly my Moon/Mars square (Aries Mars) and due to the tension created by that aspect there was no clear communication between planets in opposition. I used Ve/Ne as means of masking the issues or to overindulge myself. My chart is under heavy Saturn influence, so a lot of those issues I couldn't resolve before my Saturn Return, when I did a 180.

If the goal is for the planets in opposition to have flowing communication, I had to look at participating aspects separately - Moon/Mars square were all types of family violence. Moon-Venus/Neptune opposition were issues with sexuality, commitment, marriage, motherhood and so on. Venus/Neptune manifested as extreme perfectionism. I was a mess with the stick up my a**.

So, it was important to me to find the right professional outlet for all that was repressed and to be independent and successful, cause I'd been told all my life that I amount to nothing. That was my way of resolving the issue of self-worth that blocked me from forming any deeper intimate relationships. All my romantic relationships prior to my husband were very short-lived cause I truly believed that I was unlovable. What I find amusing is that my AC is part of the kite but none of this was visible on the outside. My behavior was always labeled as selfish, eccentric or cocky. Also, I'm Lilith Rising too and that made the problems worse in a ways I wouldn't want it to happen to anyone (and finding solutions much harder).

As of recently, I began to talk openly about the experiences I went through ("my karmic lessons"), mostly thanks to my husband's support, and as a result of it I became actively engaged in organizations dealing with victims of abuse, with a special focus on helping children. I guess that would be the true purpose of my kite? My Moon is right now in a very happy place (until some wretched transit or progression happens, or something).

Sorry, I didn’t plan to be this long and personal and all doom and gloom, but I think it’s important for you to know that there are different ways the same kite can be approached and interpreted. What all kites have in common is that there is a lesson to be learned and meaningfully applied.

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posted August 22, 2020 02:02 PM            

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Originally posted by DecimaLife:
Very interesting your kite also have moon- venus/neptune influence very similar to mine. Agreed on Venus/Neptune manifesting as extreme perfectionism. When I find one minor thing about opposite sex I am like: "oh no she is not perfect panic alert!" Hahaha damn you neptune. I guess I need to go my north node in virgo

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Yup, Neptune all the way:) On the upside, Venus/Neptune is a promise of at least one great love (or few. Or one that'll last a lifetime) but only if you let go of control.
I'm sure you have a very specific type of a girl in your mind, and that's ok. Use it as a checklist but don't hold on to it too tightly, otherwise your Moon-Venus won't be able to figure out what you really need and what you can go without. No one is perfect, nor will circumstances always be perfect. It's okay to make mistakes, etc. Etc. Etc.

Venus/Neptune also tends to hide from you what you really need until the right moment (and can give a partner from far away, especially in combo with 9th/12th house. Also, you have Moon in 3rd. She comes to you). So keep in mind that too. The worst thing that can happen is that due to potential sexual or emotional dissatisfaction you fall into a pattern of very unhealthy behavior. Let's say you might constantly seek to relive one particular fantasy. Or become celibate.

Regarding the girl, she should match you not only by nice aspects in synastry, her own natal chart must mirror your relevant placements (by her own aspects or overall energy). Or - her own Moon and Venus must be very strong, cause aspects go both ways. Moon opp Venus can suffer from "grass is always greener on the other side" syndrome, but it doesn’t have to be your behavior, it can be hers. Your girlfriend will start as Venus, but if you are planning a long-term, in time she will start behaving like your Moon too. If her chart is not equipped to deal with your aspects (and you have indeed solved your issues), guess how she might behave. All issues with projection. If you have some insecurities ("can't act on my feelings"),the other party may unconsciously mimic your behavior or interpret it as let's say indifference (player vibe). So, you have to be very clear about what you want and need, and take your chance.