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summerflowers
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posted July 20, 2020 02:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for summerflowers     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can anyone please give an opinion about this relationship?
My ex broke up with me a month ago and we haven't contacted since then.
He said he wasn't ready to get married, but I think the main reason is that
I'm not the ideal woman for him, acting immature while he was thoughtful.
Even though, I want him back so bad.
I was happy being with him and now it hurts like a million times.

Our first meeting was at 7:15 p.m. on March 5th, 2020 in Tokyo.
He broke up with me at 10 a.m. on June 28th, 2020 in Tokyo.

Synastry chart:


Composite chart:


I wonder if we ever have a chance of getting back together.
Any insight would be appreciated.

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~~Where is my love?~~

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serendipity20
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posted July 20, 2020 10:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for serendipity20     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I actually think you have a lot of the qualities he is looking for in a committed rs. His ascendant is in Taurus and yours is in Scorpio... Although they don't make aspect to each other, you each basically have the qualities the other one needs in a partnership. Also, your Venus falls in his 7th house so you do represent some form of ideal for him. Your Sun conjunct his Descendant is another indication of strong attraction and finding ideal qualities in the other which we don't readily express ourselves.

Contrary to what you might think, your Saturn contacts are not weak at all. Saturn aspects to the axis are usually very significant and felt very strongly. The issue lies more in the nature of these contacts... His Saturn is square to your Ascendant and conjunct to your IC. Those are very binding contacts but can be difficult to deal with over time. Your Saturn is also trine to his Sun and sextile to his Ascendant, so you also bring a sense of responsibility and commitment to the relationship. Your Saturn square his Nodes is another extremely binding aspect, as well as his Nodes square your MC/IC axis.

That said, his reticence to fully commit to you or his need to withdraw might be because of his Moon/Saturn conjunction in Aquarius. He might take things much slower or need some time and space before making that leap. But to be honest, his Moon just seems to be under a lot of stress natally... It's not only conjunct to Saturn, but square to Mercury and Pluto (under 1 orb). It's also square to Mars (5 orb).

In Synastry you have your Moon opposite both his Neptune and Uranus, so that could also point to his need for independence and a feeling of things being unclear or not completely emotionally fulfilling (mostly coming from his side).

From a very practical standpoint, I'm generally not a big fan of hanging on to relationships that have been severed by the other partner... But, I've realized that many people operate very differently in that regard. I do think your Composite looks rather strong and favorable for a long term relationship but I'm no expert on the subject, so I might be missing some key elements.


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summerflowers
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posted July 27, 2020 10:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for summerflowers     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by serendipity20:
I actually think you have a lot of the qualities he is looking for in a committed rs.
His reticence to fully commit to you or his need to withdraw might be because of his Moon/Saturn conjunction in Aquarius. He might take things much slower or need some time and space before making that leap. But to be honest, his Moon just seems to be under a lot of stress natally... It's not only conjunct to Saturn, but square to Mercury and Pluto (under 1 orb). It's also square to Mars (5 orb).

I do think your Composite looks rather strong and favorable for a long term relationship but I'm no expert on the subject, so I might be missing some key elements.


serendipity20, thank you so much for the insights!
I didn't know that our Saturn contacts were powerful...
I thought his Saturn aspects in our synastry were weak,
and that's the reason he left me so easily.

Yes, with his Aqua moon trine Jupiter in natal,
he is a very kind person who is hunger for wisdom and loves trying new things.
Otherwise, my Cancer moon is cautious and just wants everything to stay the same,
so that's one of our incompability.

I wonder what does it mean when his Moon has stressful aspects?

Today is exactly one month since the breakup and we still have no contact.
I love talking to him and hope we would contact each other everyday again
just like before, at least as a friend. But being a friend with someone who broke your heart but
you are still in love with seems impossible.

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serendipity20
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posted August 04, 2020 11:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for serendipity20     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by summerflowers:
serendipity20, thank you so much for the insights!
I didn't know that our Saturn contacts were powerful...
I thought his Saturn aspects in our synastry were weak,
and that's the reason he left me so easily.

I wonder what does it mean when his Moon has stressful aspects?


I think aspects from Saturn to the AC/DC and MC/IC axis are underrated in Synastry. But from my personal experience they are very significant and are felt quite strongly. I consider them to be as important and binding as a Moon/Saturn or Venus/Saturn.

That said, Saturn isn't the end all be all. A lot of Saturn or strong Saturn interaspects doesn't necessarily mean a lasting or longterm relationship. Yes Saturn is often equated with staying power, but the entirety of the Synastry and Natals has to be taken into account.

When I mentioned that your ex's Moon was under stress natally, I meant that it is receiving a lot of strong and difficult aspects from other planets. He has Moon square Mars, Moon conjunct Saturn, Moon square Mercury and Moon square Pluto. That paints the picture of someone that might have trouble with knowing how/how much/when to express his emotions and how to deal with them. Not to mention that his Moon is in Aquarius, which is notorious for needing a certain degree of space and freedom.

I can understand that it's all very difficult for you right now, knowing you still have strong feelings for him. I hope it all works out. At the end of the day, do what feels best to you and what will ultimately make you happy .

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Randall
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posted August 11, 2020 10:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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