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Laylay
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posted July 24, 2020 02:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Laylay     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We met a few weeks ago and I've never felt like I've been destined to meet someone before. After two successful meetings he messaged out of blue and told me he wasnt interested anymore, and disappeared as quickly as he appeared into my life.
I know its human nature to dwell on these scenarios but I'm turning to astrology to hopefully shed some light on why I'm so profoundly affected by him and cant get him off my mind, to the point of obsession.
Thank you so much.

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Laylay
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posted July 24, 2020 02:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Laylay     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry my chart:
https://ibb.co/tXpLbLm

His chart:
https://ibb.co/MkQqXZt

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Laylay
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posted July 24, 2020 02:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Laylay     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Synastry:

https://ibb.co/K24wtx2

Composite:

https://ibb.co/7pvF55T

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efaki94
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posted July 24, 2020 02:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for efaki94     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Laylay:
https://www.astro.com/cgi/showgif.cgi?lang=e&gif=astro_w2gw_a.23378.1294.png&res=63

Hellooo.. It must be a problem with the photos because they can't be seen try to upload them in imgur.com and then post the link here👍

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Laylay
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posted July 24, 2020 02:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Laylay     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by efaki94:
Hellooo.. It must be a problem with the photos because they can't be seen try to upload them in imgur.com and then post the link here👍


Thankyou, I fixed it sorry.. noob issues lol

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efaki94
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posted July 24, 2020 04:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for efaki94     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
you are welcome. im not very expierenced to help you with the analysis but try to post the composite chart too ..so to have a whole picture of relationship

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Stoika7
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posted July 24, 2020 02:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Laylay,

Sorry to say this, but you should absolutely move on. You had that sense of destiny cause Composite North Node is in 12th house and you have South Node/Chiron in synastry. Then you have Pluto conjunct Venus in your 8th house, so this is why you are obsessed by him. I think also Composite Vertex square Venus adds a destiny feeling which is not real and a difficult letting go.
But Composite Venus/MC quincunx Jupiter/Chiron and the YOD formed by Neptune-Mars/ASC/Moon quincinx South Node suggest he's a player and self-serving, he would just take advantage of you and then ghost you, exatcly as he did. Especially Neptune quincunx South Node show this was going to be a short lived affair and since Mars/Moon is part of the YOD, this seems what he always wanted it to be.
Try to move on cause it seems to me that if he had stayed, he would have hurted you even more.

Is he the outside one in synastry?

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Laylay
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posted July 24, 2020 05:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Laylay     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Stoika7:
Hi Laylay,

Sorry to say this, but you should absolutely move on. You had that sense of destiny cause Composite North Node is in 12th house and you have South Node/Chiron in synastry. Then you have Pluto conjunct Venus in your 8th house, so this is why you are obsessed by him. I think also Composite Vertex square Venus adds a destiny feeling which is not real and a difficult letting go.
But Composite Venus/MC quincunx Jupiter/Chiron and the YOD formed by Neptune-Mars/ASC/Moon quincinx South Node suggest he's a player and self-serving, he would just take advantage of you and then ghost you, exatcly as he did. Especially Neptune quincunx South Node show this was going to be a short lived affair and since Mars/Moon is part of the YOD, this seems what he always wanted it to be.
Try to move on cause it seems to me that if he had stayed, he would have hurted you even more.

Is he the outside one in synastry?



He is the outside one in synastry.
Thankyou so much for your insight this is exactly what I wanted to know and needed to hear to help me move on and get closure. More importantly it answers why he did what he did, and it seems like I dodged a bullet.

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Stoika7
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posted July 24, 2020 07:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am very sorry and I hope I am wrong about him... natally he has Mars square Neptune opposite Chiron in 5th house, so he seems to have a lot of issues from his childhood, but he also is not a reliable person, and with North Node in first house square MC he has an unstable life and difficult relationships... he might also have an escapism attitude and be a very reserved person, since Saturn is in 11th house opposite Chiron and Lilith is square to Mercury/Psyche, he likely doesnt easily share his true thoughts and feelings and prefers to avoid any confrontation... Pluto quincunx to Mars/Eros also might suggest he's especially interested in sexually based relationships only.
The feeling I have about his natal chart is that this is someone who carries deep wounds since his childhood and is not able to deal with it in an honest mature way, and this makes his life and relationships unstable...
So sorry to say this straight... if someone else on here has a different or more accurate opinion (Todd?) is welcome.
Wish you to feel much better soon ❤️

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Laylay
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posted July 24, 2020 08:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Laylay     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Stoika7:
I am very sorry and I hope I am wrong about him... natally he has Mars square Neptune opposite Chiron in 5th house, so he seems to have a lot of issues from his childhood, but he also is not a reliable person, and with North Node in first house square MC he has an unstable life and difficult relationships... he might also have an escapism attitude and be a very reserved person, since Saturn is in 11th house opposite Chiron and Lilith is square to Mercury/Psyche, he likely doesnt easily share his true thoughts and feelings and prefers to avoid any confrontation... Pluto quincunx to Mars/Eros also might suggest he's especially interested in sexually based relationships only.
The feeling I have about his natal chart is that this is someone who carries deep wounds since his childhood and is not able to deal with it in an honest mature way, and this makes his life and relationships unstable...
So sorry to say this straight... if someone else on here has a different or more accurate opinion (Todd?) is welcome.
Wish you to feel much better soon ❤️

Thankyou dearly. I feel more at ease now. Not that I am perfect at all, but your take on his natal chart has allowed me to atleast know that the problem is more so him rather than me, as you can imagine my self confidence took quite a hit after his abrupt leaving.
Do you think there was a purpose for our brief encounter? Perhaps some sort of lesson I needed to learn? Or do you believe it is just the illusion of fate as you outlined earlier?

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Stoika7
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posted July 24, 2020 10:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am glad my take helped you at least to avoid self-blame :-) You might actually be prone to harsh self-criticism cause of Saturn widely opposite to natal Chiron, but with Chiron in Leo/5th house, you have to gain more self value and recognize your own talents and the absolutely brilliant woman you are! Your natal Vertex is square North Node/MC, this is a strong karmic and astral aurea you carry, a deep sense of destiny and awareness, and so it seems it's important to you to always face reality as it is, even so this might make you struggle but helps you find your direction and balance...
You seem to have significant transits currently, cause the Nodes have just gone through your IC/MC axis, so a urge to find balance, establishments and awareness seems what you might be currently focused about, in daily life but also at karmic level. Also, transiting Chiron is square your Nodes, with transiting Mercury just leaving from your natal South Node, and transiting Sun is right on your Chiron, so this would suggest a healing and a letting go might serve you well for the future and in gaining that awareness/self worth. transiting Mercury is currently opposite Neptune and transiting Mars square natal Uranus and Neptune, so you're not seeing all this karmic process clearly yet, and you might feel hopeless and having dark thoughts at the moment... but these are temporary transits, just matter of days and once you start to see this all clearer you will feel much better, Jupiter is conjunct Venus and in a couple of weeks it will be conjunct your Neptune, so just endure and repeat yourself that it's just temporary.

the transits to Composite show that he's being very selfish and "sneaky" cause transiting Mars and Lilith are going through a square to Composite Sun, Saturn/Jupiter-Chiron opposition, and with tr. Mars currently square Neptune, also Lilith shows he was not honest and maybe having hidden motives. Transiting Chiron is square Uranus, and transiting Uranus is square the Nodes, so it seems that an abrupt end was "fated". Same thing is shown by transiting Neptune square MC/Venus and opposite Vertex, here again there is a sense of destiny in how things ended up, with Neptune square Venus signaling again that there might have just been a playful attitude from his part but also deceit... Transiting Pluto is opposite Jupiter and Chiron, this looks like a painful lesson, but since transiting Pluto is also conjunct to comp. Saturn, it looks like a "wake up" call as you might need to review this whole relationship, regaining your own balance and values.

On a side note, in synastry, your North Node is conjunct his Neptune, so this looks like he's very drawn to you and again a strong sense of destiny might have given the illusion this could be a serious relationship, also, his North Node is conjunct to your Juno and his Juno/Vertex/South Node is conjunct to your Jupiter, this is again a strong "otherworldly" energy giving the instant feeling of familiarity and of a potential long term relationship, but his Neptune is opposite his Chiron square your Vertex/DSC, so this looks like an unreal belief, and your Juno/his nodes is square to his MC, so I suspect that the mere fact you might represent an ideal partner for committment and also that karmic energy felt as destiny triggered his past wounds (Chiron opposite Neptune and square Mars) and fears of committment and his urge to close the relationship.

...hope it helps ❤️

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Laylay
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posted July 24, 2020 11:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Laylay     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Stoika7:


...hope it helps ❤️


My utmost gratitude to you ❤❤❤❤
Thank you for this response.. This has blown my mind and I cant express how much I needed this THANKYOU

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Stoika7
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posted July 25, 2020 12:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
❤️❤️❤️

I understand you so well, I know what it means to be "obsessed" by a "fated" meeting and have a hard letting go!

I would like others' opinions, especially Todd's, cause I could always be wrong, especially about him being a player and damaged person (I need to add that Composite Nessus is square Neptune/Uranus, so this to me would confirm his deceptive or shallow behaviour at best and a potential abusive trait of the relationship...), even though about the fated end and short lived nature of the relationship I have almost no doubt.

I'm attaching the Composite I have pulled out on astro.com.

Let me know how you're doing... big hugs ❤️


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Laylay
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posted July 25, 2020 05:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Laylay     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm doing okay, I still think about him. I had a dream about him a couple of nights ago as well. I think part of my obsession was also my deep attraction to him physically, and I find myself hoping to find someone who looks like just him (sad I know! 🤦‍♀️
A lady once told me I had a healing aura, and I will forever attract broken people into my life.
As you said however, my feeling is temporary and I'm reminding myself this.

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anska5
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posted July 25, 2020 08:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for anska5     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi, Is his birthtime correct? I'm asking because 12 p.m. sounds like the generic time people use when birthtime is unknown. If his birthtime is unknown, I think major pieces of information not only about his natal chart and therefore his personality is missing, but also how you affect him in synastry and of course also composite houses will be missing.

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Laylay
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posted July 26, 2020 01:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Laylay     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by anska5:
Hi, Is his birthtime correct? I'm asking because 12 p.m. sounds like the generic time people use when birthtime is unknown. If his birthtime is unknown, I think major pieces of information not only about his natal chart and therefore his personality is missing, but also how you affect him in synastry and of course also composite houses will be missing.


Hi, when I asked him he said "around midday" and I didnt want to press further coz its kinda weird having someone wanting to know your exact time of birth so I just went with midday.

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Hikaru29
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posted July 26, 2020 05:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you don't know his actual birth time then his Ascendant, angles, Vertex and house placements may all be wrong. The ascendant especially is very key in determining a person's character and major themes in their life.

This kinda thing happened to lots of people. Someone amazing comes into our lives just to leave very suddenly leaving us wondering what we did wrong when most likely it's nothing to do with us. They likely have other options or simply still can't forget their exes. So don't have a headache analysing him and what lesson you need to learn. The lesson is just to accept such situations in life and be at peace with it.

You will soon forget him.. You've only met twice.. Soon someone who treasures you will come along.

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Laylay
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posted July 26, 2020 06:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Laylay     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
If you don't know his actual birth time then his Ascendant, angles, Vertex and house placements may all be wrong. The ascendant especially is very key in determining a person's character and major themes in their life.

This kinda thing happened to lots of people. Someone amazing comes into our lives just to leave very suddenly leaving us wondering what we did wrong when most likely it's nothing to do with us. They likely have other options or simply still can't forget their exes. So don't have a headache analysing him and what lesson you need to learn. The lesson is just to accept such situations in life and be at peace with it.

You will soon forget him.. You've only met twice.. Soon someone who treasures you will come along.


I feel like your response is very condescending. I know all this already I'm not a fool. To say not to analyze a person or a situation contradicts part of the purpose of astrology dont you think?
"Dont analyze" yet heres a whole forum dedicated to the very thing.
Even if it's not accurate it helped me anyway and that still counts.

I wont be commenting any further on this post.
Thankyou @Stoika7

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Hikaru29
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posted July 26, 2020 10:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Laylay:
I feel like your response is very condescending. I know all this already I'm not a fool. To say not to analyze a person or a situation contradicts part of the purpose of astrology dont you think?
"Dont analyze" yet heres a whole forum dedicated to the very thing.
Even if it's not accurate it helped me anyway and that still counts.

I wont be commenting any further on this post.
Thankyou @Stoika7


I'm sorry you got offended by what I said but I'm not sorry for saying don't analyse this too much. If you wanna use astrology to analyse him then use his correct ToB or analysis is wrong. Ciao.

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Stoika7
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posted July 26, 2020 03:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Laylay

my idea of his chart and the Composite doesnt change according to his TOB. The aspects I mentioned about him being a player and only searching for sex are based mainly on planets aspects, just to make this clear... If he told you he's born around midday and it's not completely accurate, doesnt really matter in the big picture that I have seen.

I think people on here should try to give an opinion based on the elements given, even when a TOB is missing, even though having accurate TOB is obviously giving much more infos, but in case of this chart I find that there are enough elements to say that he didnt take this relationship seriously and that there is an abusive and deceptive trait (in my opinion).

Big hugs <3

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