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Dwhelps
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posted August 16, 2020 10:44 PM
  
Hi all,
Any help with interpreting this composite would be appreciated.
Do you see it being good for marriage? As in, should he propose?
The Nessus Venus throws me off a bit but there are very many good aspects, seems like a good chart.
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posted August 17, 2020 01:17 PM
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Stoika7
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posted August 17, 2020 07:30 PM
Hi Dwhelps,I think one needs to be careful with this chart, while at the beginning these two seem to be on the same page and in harmony in a quite romantic relationship and even planning long term or marriage with Moon conjunct Juno and Jupiter trine Saturn, with time some strong abusive issues, especially at communication level, could arise.
Neptune square the nodes is usually giving big question marks and uncertainty to long term plans. But the concerning side is especially that while Venus opposite to Sun/Mercury and sextile Pluto gives a lot of passion and mutual "true love" vibes, it is attached to Nessus, suggesting the underlying abusive hook... then, Orcus is quincunx Neptune and Mercury, and square Pluto, so that underlying abusive hook might not be completely acknowldged or realized before it brings damages, even though it's clearly there... Lilith is square Moon and trine the Nodes, so while true affection is there, unconscious dark issues could hinder the emotional harmony... Chiron is square Psyche and opposite Saturn, so again there's a toxic trait, likely a strong controlling issue.
Currently, they have favourable transits for romance with tr. Jupiter conjunct Comp Saturn, tr. Venus square the Nodes, and tr. Mars conjunct Jupiter. But as tr. North Node will be conjunct to Comp. Chiron in the next few months, and South Node to Comp. Uranus, troubles might start... early next year, Saturn approaching Comp. Neptune square the Nodes might bring upheavals and big uncertainty. IP: Logged |
Dwhelps
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posted August 21, 2020 06:09 AM
Hi @Stoika
Thank you so much for your interpretation!
I was kind of wary about the Nessus but you opened my eyes to more aspects.
I'll let him know to take it slow and see how it goes for the next year or even longer XDIP: Logged |
efaki94
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posted August 21, 2020 06:25 AM
Sorry if this is a little out of topic
But nessus opposite moon in composite
Could play the same as for venus? IP: Logged |
Stoika7
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posted August 21, 2020 01:07 PM
Hi Dwhelps, I think Orcus square Pluto is especially concerning... with Neptune, Mercury and Venus/Nessus involved, it could be a communication issue, maybe things holden back could surface giving big uncertainties.@efaki94 Nessus opposite Moon could signal a lack of empathy/emotional frustration, but it depends on the whole chart picture. IP: Logged |
Dwhelps
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posted August 22, 2020 07:08 AM
Hi Stoika7, thank you so much!
I'm not sure what Orcus energies are like.. did some digging, and am still not sure I understand it completely.
For the two of them, it might be manifesting in a sort of dark sexual dynamic... but they are doing pretty well overall so far.Anyway. Can you take a look at my composite chart with someone?
I want to know if we would make good partners in a long-term RS or marriage too.
He's been in love with me for years....
Do you need the synastry too? Or is composite enough?
http://imgur.com/a/WpUkU29
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Stoika7
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posted August 22, 2020 03:51 PM
Orcus square to Pluto is usually an element of strong toxic and control issues and potential abuse...Your composite with this longtime connection is very unstable, Uranus square Venus and opposite Moon shows strong on-off dynamics, with Pluto square Mars there's an element of obsession at sexual level, even though you have a special mind connection and affection with Jupiter/Mercury/Sun trine Moon and the Nodes square the stellium, but since it's in 5th house and given the Uranus/Venus square, it all looks mainly flirtatious or friends with benefits... Vertex conjunct DSC in this picture makes thing likely unattainable on a stable level. With Nessus opposite Sun/Mercury and square to Ixion, strongly aggressive arguments are possible. Saturn is opposite Chiron, so again it seems there's a lack of ground which might become frustrating, and with those Nessus and Pluto/Mars aspects I would suggest to not nurture his obsession for you. IP: Logged |
Dwhelps
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posted August 22, 2020 10:04 PM
Oh no! Really? 
I do feel a loving connection with him and I love his family and friends. But he’s always been a bit far too obsessed with me.... I’ve tried to get closer romantically and see if we can develop a stable romantic relationship but he’d always be too ahead.
I had to end our contact a couple times (it’s been on and off over a decade) because he would become demanding about my affections not being as intense as his for me (which I do have but not quite the way he has).
He’s given me ultimatums but tried to get back in my life again every few years. I care about him a lot and he seems like he would be the ideal partner in so many ways (I guess it shows in the Moon!) but I’ve never been sexually attracted to him and was always concerned about this.Now that I’m getting older.... with no prospect in sight.... I still think about him sometimes (and he emailed me out of the blue again, I didn’t respond) and wonder if I should settle with him. Thanks for your insight... I guess it sounds like a less than ideal partnership too... I’m just worried I might never be able to have children of my own if I don’t find someone quick...
I have a natal Venus square Moon so I thought maybe it was my problem that I wasn’t sexually attracted to him... and that I should settle....
I’ve wondered for years if it was just me, and he was a great partner to settle down with...
Thank you SO much for this clarification! ——
Wow.
I see the Pluto-Mars and Nessus aspects. Everything would be really nice for a long while (I’ve been the apple of his eye since Day 1.). We did have pretty bad arguments at times! Even though I was trying to develop something more with him, he’d get almost impatient in waves and that would alarm me. And I admit it ended up like I was “using” him because he’d be giving too much and I’d be giving too little. That could also be the Nessus? I didn’t mean to take advantage of him but he’d be just too far ahead and trying too hard. He would do very extreme things.... romantic but.... very extreme. And I would have to put him in his place because it would be far too much. Hope that makes sense? But otherwise, the mental connection is strong and I thought he would make a good father...
What does Composite Vertex conj DSC mean? I’m so disappointed ahhhhh
I was THIS close to agreeing to engagement last year with himmmmm. If we had married, would it have been an unstable marriage? Possibility for divorce?
His obsession with me wouldn’t have gotten better?
I’ve never consummated our relationship. IP: Logged |
Stoika7
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posted August 22, 2020 11:15 PM
Hey Dwhelps, sorry you're disappointed...
With Sun/Mercury/Jupiter trine Moon your affection is clearly there, and there's also a kind of strong idealization for long term with Vertex-DSC/Juno midpoint conjunct Venus, but it seems lacking emotional ground with the square to the Moon/Uranus opposition, and Vertex on DSC usually is an otherworldly energy making difficult to establish things, along with the nodal square to Jupiter/Mercury, this looks quite fated, likely karmic, with an unsolved/unattainable trait... yet very powerful in staying connected.
If you got married, likely such an unsolved trait or emotional unfulfillment would arise with on-off periods, and with those aspects involving Pluto/Mars and Nessus/Sun/Ixion t-square, he could become more oppressive and pressing, and miscommunication would be there.
I think you re-connected cause transiting nodes are on the IC/MC axis currently, and square to Vertex/DSC, so there's a strong pull in being in touch at this moment, idealizing each other, thinking about re-establishing something. With this transit, and also with tr. Neptune retrograde on Comp. Venus, I think he might pursue you again and you would likely be forthcoming. A new phase of your relationship might actually start. However, as the nodes will hit the composite Moon/Uranus opposition early next year, you might start feeling detached, and with Saturn going direct conjunct to Mars but square to Pluto, same old dynamics with his impatience/obsession could arise again.IP: Logged |
Dwhelps
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posted August 22, 2020 11:42 PM
Oh dear Stoika, thank you so much.
I don’t think I will be forthcoming, I really don’t want to go through that loop again and again.
I’m glad I did not reply him and I won’t, he will probably try to to contact me in other ways I’m sure of it! If not now, later down the road.
Even though he thinks it doesn’t affect me, it is so draining and also disappointing for me too!
I’m glad to know that the dynamics probably wouldn’t change. I can just imagine if we were married and I didn’t reciprocate the kind of passion he hoped for, he might become very jealous and pressing. Thank you darling! I will have to keep looking *sigh*
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Dwhelps
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posted August 23, 2020 02:20 AM
Stoika, can you also look at this composite of me and someone... who I loved deeply?
We were in a relationship that ended.
Did he really love me? Why did he hurt me? There won’t be any chance of reconciliation right? The composite looks unstable to me.
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Stoika7
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posted August 23, 2020 03:41 PM
The fact that he hurted you is clear with the Saturn/Moon/Chiron, even though it's a bit wide, but involves also Uranus square Moon, there was coldness towards you.
Jupiter conjunct North Node/IC has given a very strong familiarity, a sense of destiny and moments of happyness, this is also an aspect suggesting a strong karma of gaining individual awareness and self-growth, with Pluto quincunx to this, likely the relationship was meant for a big personal transformation, but the IC/MC axis conjunct the Nodes it's square to Neptune, and this is unfortunately a bad omen, it seems that also the end of the relationship was strongly fated and karmic.
Why he hurted you, I would need to see your synastry/his natal chart to get a better idea of his personality/motives and the dynamic between you two...IP: Logged |
Dwhelps
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posted August 23, 2020 07:01 PM
Hi Stoika,
Thanks dear. Fated indeed. Thanks for pointing out aspects I didn’t see myself! But you’ve got many interpretations about our relationship right to a T. Sadly Here’s our synastry. Do you need his natal? Or mine?
Can you see how much I loved him?
I’m blue. http://imgur.com/a/ELS7THi IP: Logged |
Dwhelps
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posted August 23, 2020 07:04 PM
Oops pressed quote. Meant to say. Did he really love me too? Why did he hurt me?IP: Logged |
Stoika7
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posted August 23, 2020 08:08 PM
With his Neptune trine your Juno but square to your Sun, and his Moon on your ASC square your MC/IC, he did love you a lot, but loved more the idea he had of you rather than the real you, and when you didnt match with his idea of you, his Saturn square your Moon was triggered and he might have acted (unconsciously, since he has Saturn opposite Chiron/Lilith) as you didnt deserve his affection cause you were not his idea of you, which he was stubbornly attached to (his Pluto opposite your Juno/Jupiter conjunct his North Node). It seems to me that your relationship was very intense, but from his part there was a "controlling" idea of you as his ideal partner which didnt match with reality in the end, and he subconsciously reacted negatively towards you, instead of akcnowledging who you really are and loving you for who you really are. IP: Logged |
Dwhelps
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posted August 24, 2020 02:47 AM
Oh darling, I think there is a lot of truth in what you said.
He definitely was very much in love with the idea of me - I think too, that he struggled with acknowledging me for who I really am, and loving me for who I am.It was an intense relationship in a way but deeply comforting and loving, in the sense his moon on my ASC. I felt it too. When we first met... not long after, we had this easy comfort with one another. It was beautiful.
When it’s just us we easily feel this very comforting feeling. We have both tried to describe it to one another. I think it’s a good type of comforting friendship. Almost like family. Deeply loving and concerned for the other.
But I also think it made our rs very emotional at times - intense in that way, esp with outside influences like diff cultures/family/friends who did not seem to understand our relationship - we were very sensitive to each other’s moods and disappointments in regards to this.
We were very heartfelt with each other but it could be very intense because we couldn’t work with everything going on around us. And then he just shut down. And then I shut down, and he begged to meet one last time. Said he was being shallow. But I said no. He said we can’t be together, but he sounded sadder than how you should be if it’s just superficial.
It’s not just sex is it? What is Saturn opposite Chiron/Lilith like?
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posted August 24, 2020 05:36 PM
"When it’s just us we easily feel this very comforting feeling. We have both tried to describe it to one another. I think it’s a good type of comforting friendship. Almost like family. Deeply loving and concerned for the other."This is obviously Composite Jupiter/North Node on IC (trine Saturn and sextile Venus) and Composite Sun in 4th house, these are very strong aspects of devotion, love and comfort which you described very well... Jupiter/NN though is square to the Nemesis/Vertex-Lilith midpoint in Cancer opposite Neptune/ASC, and Neptune square to the IC/MC axis, this could be linked to unconscious dynamics and external influences like family (IC/ 4th house and Cancer), and with Saturn square Moon a burden was there, Saturn in 12th house, so it looks like an hard burden to overcome at subconscious level... His Saturn is actually opposite Lilith, even though Chiron is conjunct Lilith, but Saturn is also conjunct Juno which is opposite Chiron, so he could have unconscious issues making it difficult to accept reality in a sort of self-denial dynamic sometimes, and since this involves his Juno/Saturn, he likely has a very clear idea of his ideal partner but with the Chiron opposition this might constantly turn out as a disappointment for him since he has this difficulty to acknowledge what's real versus his "fixed" idea, so I think this is linked to how he felt for you and how he acted. IP: Logged |
Dwhelps
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posted August 24, 2020 10:22 PM
Thank you so much, Stoika.
I can really see all of that!
There were many unconscious issues - his father left his family when he was young though he is really close with his mom. I feel he has many issues there he needs to deal with on his own. I can also sense that he has an ideal but he is not very communicative to me.
We did have many external issues, some very fateful - with family but also his work - he’s basically a permanent nomad always on diff assignments in diff countries. This all coincided at the worst possible time - and it wasn’t just all these external circumstances, sth about him personally - escapist tendencies?
I can’t quite put my finger on .... his work takes him away from home but at the same time he likes it, he can’t bear to be “home” for too long for any one period. If his work doesn’t take him away he will use his work expenses to take a trip... it’s very frequent ie once every 1-2 months and he doesn’t want me to join. He thrives in long distance relationships this way.... he almost NEEDS that kind of freshness. But we weren’t long distance. The Uranus vibes was v. strong.
It doesn’t work with me. My moon. So he didn’t use me for sex right? I’m getting that there was some devotion... but ultimately troubled feelings.
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posted August 24, 2020 11:11 PM
Well, this is interesting... his Saturn opposite Lilith could have to do with his "missing" father figure (Saturn), with Chiron in Gemini conjunct Lilith, he could actually have such emotional void buried in his subconscious and it coudl be something he wouldnt want to "explore", but this could give him also that escapism you mention... also, his Neptune on MC is clearly about traveling for work, and it is square to his ASC/DSC axis, this is an aspect giving strong uncertainties and instability in one's life, and also in relationship matters. Then, his Uranus is square his Jupiter, and this looks quite restless... even so, his Neptune is opposite his venus conjunct IC, so this is a trait of someone "dreaming" a stable emotional life as an ideal, which he might struggle about given the Neptune square the axis. But Venus is in gemini and opposite MC, so it actually suggests that even when he's committed, he needs his own space, which could be also given by the Uranus/Jupiter square..."So he didn’t use me for sex right? I’m getting that there was some devotion... but ultimately troubled feelings." Well, the Composite Pluto/Sun opposition gives a strong sexual, yet controlling, vibe and Mars opposite Lilith, which is exactly trine to the Juno/Jupiter midpoint, has also a strong sexual aspect yet merged with "true love" feelings (Lilith trine Juno/Jupiter midpoint)... then, Jupiter/North Node trine Saturn and sextile Venus looks quite devoted/committed, so I wouldnt have doubts about this. The problem I see is that Vertex is conjunct Lilith in 7th house, and square to Jupiter/nodes, this gives a strong sense of destiny and feeling of being meant for each other, but at the same time Vertex is an otherworldly energy which can leave things unsolved, and this comes along with Saturn in the 12th house, so the committment looks "suspended", unsolved, never really satisfied/accomplished in the end... this actually could also give you both the feeling that your bond is for ever, even though you're no longer together...
With Neptune/ASC square the Nodes/MC-IC axis, and the Lilith/Vertex aspects, in this picture, my idea is that the relationship was heavily influenced more from his subconscious issues and core instability/insecurities rather than family issues, even though in such uncertainty of his those family influences had a weight. Edit: sorry, forgot to mention Composite Uranus square Moon... this is a "cold" aspect of emotional instability that could be linked to the fact that he needed "distance" from you sometimes.
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posted August 25, 2020 05:01 AM
Oh dear! I maybe should have given you all that context to begin with! I think you are spot on, that it was perhaps more influenced by his own subconscious issues rather than family - although that definitely had a weight. I was probably not willing to see it for what it was - it’s hard to grasp his restlessness, sometimes I wondered if it was my imagination or if I was being too clingy (which I normally am not). He is very close with his family. His single mother is a people person, very sociable (Moon in Libra) and I think to that degree his Venus is near his IC. He has a very happy relationship with his mom and siblings and surrounding community - very sociable home life.
His work on the other hand... I didn’t bring it up because a series of very fateful events happened to him - almost like he was very “lucky”. He was born and raised in point A. And after a VERY lucky incident that was VERY fateful went to point B. (These are all different countries) And there found his big break/job which moved him to point C. Which is where we met. Then he got moved to point D, E.... (All in that same job)
His home is point A. He loves it and always goes back to it to feel at “home” but he no longer wants to be there completely too. He does want a stable family life he can come home to, but there is this restlessness in him that I think won’t be satisfied that simply. And his work by circumstance helps him live out this aspect of periodic escape. He is by no means a player though..... The Composite Sun/Pluto opposition and Mars opp Lilith is there I think because after we ended our relationship (he got moved to another assignment in another country), we reconnected a year later and he set me up in his hotel room. After that we got into a friends with benefits and he became very cruel and cold emotionally to me. And there was a power struggle. This was back and forth - complicated emotionally yet underlying cruelty of him I had never seen. Under the guise of him not wanting to get emotionally involved. Even though he was. But he didn’t allow it to express. It was bad and complicated, that’s why I ended it. His stream of “good luck” and also the behavior when we were together vs friends with benefits was so drastic - almost like Jekyll & Hyde.... he went from a saint to really cruel. It was shocking. Also his good luck is a bit surprising too...
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posted August 25, 2020 05:07 PM
Thank you for explaining the context... I think this kind of cruelty is shown by Composite Orcus square Pluto and square Sun... in addition, you also have the Moon/Chiron/Uranus t-square pointing to emotional instability and "coldness"... then Neptune in 12th house on the ASC and square the Nodes along with Saturn/Uranus in 12th house clearly created a "distance", both physical and emotional, and big uncertainties to the future of the relationship which he could have been "unable" to manage at subconscious level... I am not justifying his "Jekyll and Hyde" transformation of course, but Pluto, which is square to Orcus, is also quincunx to North Node/IC, so it's possible that some kind of his inner dissatisfaction was reflected in the relationship and that the deep knowledge of each other lead him to hurt you in your most sensitive traits, which he knew well, since with Jupiter/North Node/IC there's this strong familiar feeling, maybe something didnt "match" anymore with his own familiar/idealistic idea of you, as I mentioned before, this being likely linked to his inner restlessness but in contradiction to his "idealization" of stability/emotional life, so maybe you could have triggered this kind of inner contradiction of his which he wasnt able to "manage" emotionally and recognize himself (and consequentely you), if you get what I mean (you then know those dynamics between you two so well, so maybe you can find a sense of what I am saying...)
Yes his Venus is very attached to his family life, even though his Neptune is a complete wanderer, and traveling (and maybe also "escaping) is likely what mostly can give him a sense of his own inner stability and individual self-worth, which could be hard to find for him otherwise. IP: Logged |
Dwhelps
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posted August 25, 2020 09:40 PM
Phew... Composite Orcus square Pluto, and square Sun. So many aspects that I hadn’t seen before that now stand out because you pointed them out to me!
Cruelty was the name of the game!Thank you so much, Stoika. Thank you for giving me so much of your time, patience and absolutely enlightening insight.
I don’t know how you are able to put into words exactly how it felt... all those contrasting dynamics...but you are spot on!
I definitely understand what you are getting at.
I definitely felt that I brought his inner contradictions to surface - I am also very point blank like that and he really can’t face that part of himself yet. I’m all for open communication but he is not able to.
Also again I think it was obvious I met a certain ideal of his on the surface but I am so much more than that, and knowing the real me after some time, it didn’t exactly meet his idealistic notion of me. I also believe you are spot on - his “escapism” via Neptune traveling/work is the only thing that can give him a sense of individual self worth. Two sides pulling in opposite directions... the family he loves but where is more about a group identity ie. he isn’t able to assert himself individually at home even though it is so essential. The escapism is the only way he can honor his individual self. He’s wary of conflict and disagreement so he isn’t very communicative even though communicating about your self isn’t conflict at all. despite all this agreeableness, this inner contradiction is exceedingly obvious to a romantic partner! I was totally okay with needing space but it was too often and always so sudden with no notice, I didn’t get what was wrong.
I appreciate astrology so much because it brings these dynamics to light.... which would have been so much easier to deal with if I had understood.
I’ve forgiven him awhile back for the cruelty, but definitely now I feel a lot more sympathy for both him and us as a unit.
Thank you so much dear!!!! 😘😘😘😘😘
Feel light as a feather 😊 🥂 Edit: I also want to add I get this feeling it’s not the end of that. I mean which ex doesn’t make a comeback or reach out years down the road? And I feel like with him and I there is/was this bond (that actually freaks me out a bit) ....so I’m so glad I know all these dynamics better now. I would make a run for it 😹 IP: Logged |
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posted August 25, 2020 11:36 PM
"I definitely felt that I brought his inner contradictions to surface - I am also very point blank like that and he really can’t face that part of himself yet. I’m all for open communication but he is not able to."Thank you for summing up what I was trying to say :-)
I bet he's not able to open up on certain issues of his with his Chiron in 3rd house conjunct Lilith... I think that, besides this, you have a trait which is opposite to him, with your Neptune on your IC, Sun on DSC, Venus in Taurus 8th house and Pluto in Scorpio 2nd house, you likely need to find much more stability so this could have been another core difference that he would not acknowldge, maybe... The "soul connection" you have with Comp. Jupiter/North Node/IC will always be felt. This is also such an indulgent/forgiving energy, empowered by Neptune/ASC trine Sun in 4th house... But then, Saturn in 12th is certainly leaving a big unsolved issue. transiting South Node is going towards Uranus, it's currently away from 1 degree, and it seems it will bring distance/detachment... with the trine to mercury, maybe long distance contact is still possible... then South Node will approach Saturn, a more close re-connection is possible then, with the square to Moon and North Node transiting on Chiron maybe an attempt to solve past issues could be there, as an healing, but SN/Saturn could also suggest a definitive letting go. ❤️❤️❤️ IP: Logged |
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posted August 26, 2020 12:07 AM
I am so happy to hear that! Via the letting go!I do feel transits will probably be more him approaching me for healing if any, rather than me approaching him for healing. Now and in the future.
I have felt the tides have turned for awhile now. It is fantastic! The “soul connection” could be beautiful at times but forgiving energy can also be so detrimental in this case. I can forgive at a distance ☺️ That story has ended! Yes! I see how opposite we are, literally in the charts (MC-IC, Neptune, ASC-DSC). He definitely let me realize I need stability.
All in all, it was meant to be! 🥂
Cin cin! Thank you SO much darling! ❤️ IP: Logged | |
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