posted August 19, 2020 01:26 PM            

Usually Mars feels insecure and less confident regarding sex with Saturn (which makes them submissive) because Saturn is critical/controlling of Mars performance/actions sexually (they’re being dominant), that’s why it usually manifests as BDSM, discipline and rough/punishment type sex together.

Outside of sex though, Saturn can be annoyed by Mars and vice versa, especially when trying to DO something together (cooking, building ikea furniture, playing sports etc.) and critical; “do it this way!”, “why are you doing that” etc. They can undermine each other a lot too. Not a compatible aspect that’s forsure, leads to lots of frustration and annoyance. But it’s also a makeup sex aspect or aka angry sex lol.
Hope this helps!

posted August 20, 2020 07:23 PM            

Any idea how multiple saturn aspects express themselves?

posted August 21, 2020 06:28 AM            

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Originally posted by manderin:
That makes a lot of sense, but also doesn't sound very healthy.

Any idea how multiple saturn aspects express themselves?

His saturn trines my venus and my mercury at 8 degrees, but also squares my mars at 3 degrees. I'd imagine the square aspect cancels out the others.

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I had the square in a 6 years relationship and it kept appearing in any potential relationship. I was Saturn in this one. We had a sextile Mercury too and his Saturn was square my Mercury.

The easy aspects with Venus are nice, Saturn takes care and enjoys Venus, Venus brings her beauty to Saturn's life. I had the sextile with a co-worker and it was nice. Probably in a relationship is more enjoyable.

Saturn squares and even conjunctions with personal planets are difficult. A lot of frustration comes out of them. The hard aspects are more binging than the easy ones, but are difficult to handle for a person that doesn't have a proeminent Saturn in their chart.

I was very critical about my partner and, yes, there is something sexual about the relationship and the square makes it difficult. Just like LunaIscariot said, "Mars feels insecure and less confident regarding sex with Saturn". In another "relationship", I was Mars, and yes, I was feeling like that. I thought all the time that it's not going to end well, it's going to be an awful experience and I will feel bad like it would be my fault (he was not a good looking guy, maybe I felt attraction because of this square), and I felt the criticism of what I do, even if he had a Pisces Saturn.

posted August 21, 2020 06:46 AM            

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Originally posted by efaki94:
Well to say the truth the two people I had the best sex with had their mars opposite my saturn. But with the second guy which is my bf now it can be like that... I mean he want it all the time and I m not in the mood always and he gets angry..

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And you are the Saturn, right?

That's how I was feeling when I was Saturn and when I was Mars, I was thinking that I will want to do it more than I usually want to do it.

posted August 21, 2020 07:37 AM            

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Originally posted by efaki94:
Right I was saturn.
Sorry didn't get it
You thought you would want it more
When you were mars or saturn?

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posted August 22, 2020 12:06 AM            

My main feeling towards the Saturn individuals (once in the conjunction and once in the square) was that they are cowardly. I am direct and confrontational and they seem non-confrontational in a way that triggers me.

But I also have my natal Sun squaring my Mars, so that probably adds to it.

If anything I see Saturn as being insecure and scared of Mars... and basically "hiding" in some way.. or passive-aggressive in behaviour, whereas Mars is overtly aggressive.

Saturn can try to be a control freak behind the scenes, but it's never overt aggression.

Mars can feel insecure as well, just because Saturn is being extra critical out of their own insecurities (it's so circular!).. but it depends a lot on how well placed the planets are.

Sometimes - this aspect is connected in some way to "reputation" or social standards of behaviour... Mars simply doesn't care that much. Saturn cares a great deal...
Nothing actually matters more to Saturn than the way they are perceived socially and whether or not they are respected... So if Mars intentionally or unintentionally attacks their image and makes them look bad.... this can strike up WW3 between them.

Sexually this is not the best aspect, unless the people are very spiritual, "evolved"... and have a strong connection in multiple other ways that go beyond this aspect.

The problem is that this is an egomania aspect.. Both these people (and especially the guy in the relationship) will make everything about their ego... and unfortunately, they easily trigger each other's egos, just by being themselves (and being in the same room, at the same time)... There needs to be a lot of love and patience to get past the egomania and "make love, not war".. whether it's in the bedroom or outside it.....

:edit: I didn't answer the actual OP. Sorry!
Disappointing sex..... with the square.... hmmm....
Honestly, I don't think disappointment is the biggest problem...
What happens is that there is usually a strong attraction.. but Mars does not approach Saturn in a way that they find "proper" or socially adequate...
So Saturn can feel very disrespected and put off... It's not that they don't find Mars attractive.. or that they couldn't have good sex (if they actually manage to get to that point)... The problems are about social norms, social standards.. what Saturn is "ok" with and what pushes their boundaries.

Mars is not a planet to take things slow or to be respectful of boundaries - as Venus might be. Mars wants what it wants and it wants it yesterday.... This can give Saturn a minor (or major) nervous breakdown... because their timeline.. and "pace" is much much slower.... so much slower...

posted August 22, 2020 12:29 AM            

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Originally posted by LunaIscariot:
In synastry, it usually means kinky sex. BDSM type sex, even if both parties weren’t usually interested in that type of thing, suddenly they will be with each other. Especially if it’s a DW hard mars-Saturn in the synastry and/or if one or both partners already has a hard mars/Saturn aspect in their natal

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^ I think BDSM sounds, in theory, like it could be a positive thing - a way for these people to channel all the anger and negative energy into something sexual - and put their cards on the table...
And I totally agree that this aspect can, sometimes go that way... for better or worse...

But in reality ^ I see this more as a cover-up.... for the underlying issues... rather than, bringing them to light.

So when/if the Mars/Saturn relationship turns to BDSM or... even non-BDSM angry sex... I would see it more as toxic and something that could quickly lead to *both* of their demise (leaving long-term scars), instead of improving the relationship.

I actually think that when there is too much for something - the best thing to do is to balance that energy.. with something that is the opposite... if that makes sense...

This aspect is already too angry and too controlling... Bdsm would only be using that energy and playing on it.. and very possibly, making things worse.

If I was a sex therapist - I would send these people to couple's yoga and lessons in kundalini and spirituality more generally... They need to calm wayyyy down individually - and together...... not get angrier.....

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