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ana_bee
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posted August 24, 2020 07:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ana_bee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Here as links, since the upload is not working properly..

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His chart is INSIDE. Mine is outside. I’m mostly interested in how he really feels about me and whether this relationship could be meaningful to both of us.

What worries me a bit is that we don’t have the classical Node conjunction/opposition to personal planets, in synastry. Every relationship I’ve had so far, had a solid personal planet/angle to Node connection. The only thing that stands out, concerning the nodes, is my sun/moon midpoint conjunction to his NN (1 degree).

In composite .. the comp Moon conj my NN and the comp Venus conj his NN. Both 0-1 degree.

I don’t know if this is strong enough though to offset the missing personal planet to NN link in synastry.


Thank you, for your input!

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posted August 25, 2020 10:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Stoika7
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posted August 25, 2020 08:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi ana_bee!

I think you made good points on those NN aspects, I think they're significant, it suggests there's instant affection, maybe love at first sight, and a pull for long terms expectations.

Currently, transiting Nodes are on the Composite ASC/DSC axis and square Sun, so this also looks significant as a time for establishing the relationship.

Composite North Node is conjunct Lilith and opposite Juno, this signals true feelings of affection/infatuation/love... Vertex is square to the Pluto/Venus opposition, this is an aspect that might take you to very otherwordly and overwhelming feelings with deep desire/obsession for each other, but Vertex can be an illusory energy that you might not control, making you lose your sense of reality in such strong attachment/obesession...
Mars/Eros trine Pluto is also a strong trait of sexual compatibility and strong loving desire for each other...
Saturn is widely square to this, and Jupiter is widely square to the Moon, so the guy might not be always meeting the woman's emotional expectations, this looks a little selfish and that the man could have the upper hand.
Neptune is widely conjunct ASC and square Sun, so again there's a strong "fairy tale" vibe which might lose sight of a realistic direction of the relationship, and Neptune on the ASC can usually give uncertainties on the long run.

I think the chart is not too unstable, but not even completely stable for long term, it especially seems that after a quite passionate start and deep feelings, an emotional detachment could follow, with South Node/Pluto such passionate feelings might fade away one day, leaving a sense of unfulfillment.
However, Venus is conjunct IC, and the Venus/Moon midpoint is conjunct to North Node/Psyche, even though with some ups and downs, I think long term or marriage is a strong possibility.

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posted August 26, 2020 07:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ana_bee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Stoika, thank you for your input! Do you also do synastry interpretations or just composite? I would like to know how he perceives me! In this case I find it hard to tell, because he’s not as forthcoming. From my perspective I just purely adore him! I finally know what (My) Venus conj someone’s Sun(and Moon) would feel like. It’s pure appreciation, understanding, forgiveness and patience. I also love the way he looks and his general style. I don’t know exactly to which extend he feels the same way for me. I don’t put planets in his relationship houses, but we have positive aspects between our Asc and Dsc rulers and personal planets to them..

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posted August 26, 2020 03:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry, my bad! I hadnt looked at synastry and from your words and such binding Composite aspects I assumed you were actually in a relationship with him.

It's true that you dont make contacts to his 5th/7th house, but his DSC ruler (Sun) and his 5th ruler (Moon) are conjunct your Venus/Mars, and his Venus is attached to your DSC and opposite to your Pluto/ASC, so it's possible that he doesn't immediately grasp the emotional connection between you two but there's an intruiguing sense for sure, it's possible that he feels the pull towards you but that he doesn't understand where you come from, cause Sun/Jupiter is square to his Saturn, and your moon in his 4th is opposite his Uranus and square his Mercury, so there's an underlying familiarity that he perceives, but also some elements of apparent diversity which might leave him insecure or emotionally detached...

He also has Saturn square Jupiter and opposite Chiron, which is a very "undecided trait" and that is in conflict with his Aries Sun/Moon as an energy pulling a brake to his impulsive nature and creating a lot of doubts in his head... this aspect involves your Sun, so again he might have mixed feelings and doubts about how he feels about you, emotionally. Especially cause this is in conflict with an impulsive drive/attraction towards you with the Sun-Moon/Mars-Venus, and the Venus/DSC versus Pluto/ASC... So basically my feeling is that he's quite attracted/intrigued instinctively, but this is somehow "blocked" by shyness/insicurity issues preventing him to clearly feel a familiarity with you at emotional level...

This all could be related to the fact that Composite Jupiter is widely square Moon, and that Composite Saturn is square to Mars/Eros... even so, those Composite aspects I have mentioned, quite binding, are there, but also Composite Neptune/ASC could be again a strong uncertain element, and Uranus (in 12th house) quincunx Moon is also a concern as emotional detachment is also possible...
In this picture, I have to say that the Vertex square the Pluto/Venus opposition might make things overwhelming yet maybe more platonic, it could look like a one sided love kept in secret, or that for some reason such strong and overwhelming attraction wouldnt lead the relationship to take off the ground, likely from strong emotional insecurity from his part.
Another possibility, some external factors might hinder the relationship, such as different life styles/social environment, or he being in another relationship.
However, I still think a big potential is there, with Chiron in 6th house widely opposite Saturn, things might be slow, in any case there's a strong trait of uncertainty (neptune/asc) which would always be there...

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posted August 26, 2020 07:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for livvywatermonkey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey ana_bee

I think his natal Sun conjunct your natal Venus could signify he may feel valued in your presence, capable of moving closer to his authentic self/being comfortable with letting his authentic self shine through.

With progressed synastry, you’ve got his progressed Mars square your natal Venus. This will become exact towards end of next year & may be felt towards end of 2030!! This could reflect potential for chemistry but also possibly frustration, on either side, as you may not automatically enjoy how he takes initiative/acts spontaneously, & he may pick up on this/not feel like he is effective in how he takes action towards/around you ...

Let me know if this resonates!! No worries if not xx

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posted August 27, 2020 04:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ana_bee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@stoika and @livvy I can totally see where you’re coming from and that description fits pretty well to the problems we’ve been dealing so far.

First of all there’s a geographical distance. It’s not insurmountable, he lives a 4 h drive away from me, but it’s still 4 hours. We can’t just meet spontaneously. I have a child, and our social circle seems to be different as well, though I like the people he hangs out with.

On my part, I want him despite the obstacles. I would want to give it a real try, but he’s apprehensive. It’s a constant back and forth. We have good days but then he retreats again without any reason, like I never know why. It seems to me that whenever there’s progress and we’re getting closer, he pulls away again with no explanation. But he doesn’t call it quits either.
So I don’t know really.. but it still feels good for me, otherwise I wouldn’t do it! I just genuinely with body and soul and all my heart like this man! I don’t feel offended when he doesn’t give me the affection I need. I’m normally easily hurt, but with him, I’m not. I just genuinely enjoy giving him compliments and attention. I feel like a better person around him. That’s why I’m continuing to do that as long as it makes me happy.
But of course I’d prefer him finally reciprocating my affection properly! I just wanted to know if this is all in my head and one-sides or whether he feels it too.
And whether there is a chance that he’ll finally feel what I feel.

Do you know that movie ‘Silver Linings’ ? It reminds me of him and me a lot. We’re not mentally ill, at least not clinically😄, but there’s a similar dynamic between us. Jennifer Lawrence’ character is chasing Bradly Cooper the moment she sees him. He’s intrigued, but very resistent basically the entire movie. Then at the end he finally tells her that he loved her the whole time, just didn’t know it then. He felt stuck. What I like about this movie so much, is that it doesn’t follow that regular rom-com storyline.. where the guy ‘gets the girl’ or the girl finally falls in love with ‘the right one‘. This movie is about a woman who chooses her man. She pursues him! She does everything a classical dating advice book tells us not to do as women, and he still falls in love with her. I find this so much more empowering, it also resonates much more with me. Venus/Mars in Aries talking! His Sun and Moon there definitely revive this side in me! My last long term relationship had a Libra Venus and a Moon in Cancer. He did not appreciate my assertiveness at all, so I was always walking on egg shells. Being with this guy now is a real awakening for me, because I finally feel more like myself again.

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posted August 27, 2020 05:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ana_bee ❤️

I think that the context you explained fits perfectly with the charts.
The physical distance could be related to Composite Uranus in 12th house, quincunx Moon, and with Neptune/ASC square Sun there's a strong platonic trait along uncertainties about the future of the relationship... so based on your context, I would think that my last guess about external factors triggering insecurities especially from is part could be the main issue here. Composite Saturn widely square to Mars shows that the man could withdraw, and this is in contradiction to other strong aspects showing an underlying bond, which might create such back and forth dynamic.
My feeling is that he feels the draw towards you and the potentiality of such emotional bond (Composite Mars/Eros trine to Venus), but there's an emotional block given by his inner struggle (natal Saturn square Jupiter and opposite Chiron) triggered by external factors that could have a weight more for him rather than for you...

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posted August 27, 2020 05:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh I have just read the last part of your post! I havent seen the movie, but what you're saying makes complete sense about feeling more like yourself! Composite Neptune in Capricorn/1st house, as well as in natal charts, is usually a trait of discovering the true Self/individual path... since your relationship looks so karmic, it's possible that the sense of this karma is exactly about what you're saying :-)

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posted August 27, 2020 06:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for livvywatermonkey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello again ana_bee,

What I do notice now in the man’s house is 1st and 7th houses intercepted, with an opposition between intercepted Mercury in 1st house and Vertex in Virgo 7th house.

To me, this could reflect that his journey is about recovering self confidence and sense of self in partnership, but the journey through to discovering self in partnership may involve an inner journey which feels comparatively lonely & isolated; that he may experience confusion in himself as long as he is unconsciously seeking to rediscover those things firstly through connection.

It is the lost connection to himself which he needs to rediscover first, & though he may long for connection, deep down he may also realise he must go into himself alone, first, and thus what may look like him sabotaging connection, could be him retreating to temporarily assuage the demands of his inner voice.

If he seems like he is being pulled in two directions, he probably is, but the way to rediscover effective connection may actually be for him to withdraw & “self-isolate”.

I think the best thing could be not to try & encourage him to connect more but to try and understand his need to disconnect is actually the pathway through for him to eventually feel safe connecting, and bring the self he doesn’t know yet back to the table with him ^_^

As always let me know if this resonates or not so much

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posted August 29, 2020 02:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ana_bee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by livvywatermonkey:
I think the best thing could be not to try & encourage him to connect more but to try and understand his need to disconnect is actually the pathway through for him to eventually feel safe connecting, and bring the self he doesn’t know yet back to the table with him ^_^

Thank you for this advice!! That’s a great perspective. I will keep this in mind from now on🙏

As of this progressed mars/venus square , indeed him having natal Mars in Capricorn is a huge bummer for me and a constant challenge. He’s so self-protected and lacks spontaneity. Everything has to be thought through constantly. It kills the vibe for me, and makes everything slow and trying. I think it’s also his Saturn square my Sun in synastry!

What I noticed in our progressed Comp chart is, that progressed Venus and Sun form a conjunction in the next 4-5 years and it stays that way for a while. Right now we have a progressed Saturn square prog. Venus, and this will resolve itself as well! So maybe this is a sign that it might work out.. idk

From experience I firmly believe in progressed composite charts! I’ve seen them work so often. For example in my last ‘relationship’ we had great Synastry and a sun/Venus/moon stellium, but though we got along really well it didn’t last and was a constant on/off thing, too. I checked the progressed composite chart and there were Saturn and Uranus forming a square to the stellium and that for the next 20 years! Another relationship (not mine) has a Venus square Saturn in composite, but in progressions Saturn forms a trine to that Venus. They moved in together after a year and are together for almost 3 years now.

So I always check progressed composite charts as well.

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posted August 29, 2020 03:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ana_bee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Stoika7:
ana_bee ❤️

I think that the context you explained fits perfectly with the charts.
The physical distance could be related to Composite Uranus in 12th house, quincunx Moon, and with Neptune/ASC square Sun there's a strong platonic trait along uncertainties about the future of the relationship... so based on your context, I would think that my last guess about external factors triggering insecurities especially from is part could be the main issue here. Composite Saturn widely square to Mars shows that the man could withdraw, and this is in contradiction to other strong aspects showing an underlying bond, which might create such back and forth dynamic.
My feeling is that he feels the draw towards you and the potentiality of such emotional bond (Composite Mars/Eros trine to Venus), but there's an emotional block given by his inner struggle (natal Saturn square Jupiter and opposite Chiron) triggered by external factors that could have a weight more for him rather than for you...


Thank you so much Stoika for your input!🙏
The theme you mentioned, I can relate to that!

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