posted August 30, 2020 05:23 PM            

His chart is OUTSIDE.

- His Mars conjunct my Sun seems to show that the potential for arguments exists, but his Venus close to my Ascendant would mitigate that.

posted August 30, 2020 05:52 PM            

I’ve just taken a look at your progressed synastry & you’ve got a separating conjunction between your progressed Venus & his progressed Mars, conjunct his natal South Node.

To me this says you could have the potential to find his modes of taking action attractive, but if he could sense this potential it may have felt more confining than enlivening, because he may not think much of his own ways of taking action at this time, & intuited he may have had to make himself more predictable in order to remain attractive to you, whereas he wants to eventually grow out of ways he’s limiting himself, even if he’s not entirely ready yet.

A lot of these assumptions about the other person happen so automatically we are not even conscious of them, so I’m not saying he was right but maybe he is looking for someone who will move with him through change, but maybe he sensed something almost too familiar & that represented to him the way he irks himself sometimes. Maybe his sense was that he needs someone who has the potential to like him *less* at this time, so he has greater reason to move towards the person he’s becoming - sounds weird I know xD

posted August 30, 2020 06:12 PM            

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Originally posted by livvywatermonkey:
Hey SunAscendant

I’ve just taken a look at your progressed synastry & you’ve got a separating conjunction between your progressed Venus & his progressed Mars, conjunct his natal South Node.

To me this says you could have the potential to find his modes of taking action attractive, but if he could sense this potential it may have felt more confining than enlivening, because he may not think much of his own ways of taking action at this time, & intuited he may have had to make himself more predictable in order to remain attractive to you, whereas he wants to eventually grow out of ways he’s limiting himself, even if he’s not entirely ready yet.

A lot of these assumptions about the other person happen so automatically we are not even conscious of them, so I’m not saying he was right but maybe he is looking for someone who will move with him through change, but maybe he sensed something almost too familiar & that represented to him the way he irks himself sometimes. Maybe his sense was that he needs someone who has the potential to like him *less* at this time, so he has greater reason to move towards the person he’s becoming - sounds weird I know xD

Does this resonate, or not so much!?

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posted August 30, 2020 06:43 PM            

I think we bring their insecurities to the surface as we are intellectually quick but also emotionally intuitive, & this can be uncomfortable for them.

My date was much more worldly than me & I became intellectually combative to show him I could still hold my own. I don’t think he enjoyed the test of that, even though he wouldn’t judge me for it ... he was probably just a little uneasy feeling that friction, not immediately understanding where it was coming from, & it may have activated his insecurities about feeling judged.

I may have also seemed like a child to him with less experience of dating & physical intimacy, & maybe he is looking for someone who comes across warmer/more easygoing intellectually, but also just as worldly/experienced as he is so he doesn’t need to feel judged for his own experiences/struggles so far.

posted August 30, 2020 08:27 PM            

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Originally posted by livvywatermonkey:
That could be ... honestly I’ve been dating too, you & I are both water monkeys in the Chinese Zodiac, & when I met a guy born same year as yours, it went a similar way ... they are wood dogs. Usually very good with people, but with their own insecurities. I think Justin Bieber is one too, & Selena Gomez is a water monkey like us xD

I think we bring their insecurities to the surface as we are intellectually quick but also emotionally intuitive, & this can be uncomfortable for them.

My date was much more worldly than me & I became intellectually combative to show him I could still hold my own. I don’t think he enjoyed the test of that, even though he wouldn’t judge me for it ... he was probably just a little uneasy feeling that friction, not immediately understanding where it was coming from, & it may have activated his insecurities about feeling judged.

I may have also seemed like a child to him with less experience of dating & physical intimacy, & maybe he is looking for someone who comes across warmer/more easygoing intellectually, but also just as worldly/experienced as he is so he doesn’t need to feel judged for his own experiences/struggles so far.

I’m not sure how well this translates to your own experience, just sharing mine in case it does

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posted August 30, 2020 08:28 PM            

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Originally posted by livvywatermonkey:
That could be ... honestly I’ve been dating too, you & I are both water monkeys in the Chinese Zodiac, & when I met a guy born same year as yours, it went a similar way ... they are wood dogs. Usually very good with people, but with their own insecurities. I think Justin Bieber is one too, & Selena Gomez is a water monkey like us xD

I think we bring their insecurities to the surface as we are intellectually quick but also emotionally intuitive, & this can be uncomfortable for them.

My date was much more worldly than me & I became intellectually combative to show him I could still hold my own. I don’t think he enjoyed the test of that, even though he wouldn’t judge me for it ... he was probably just a little uneasy feeling that friction, not immediately understanding where it was coming from, & it may have activated his insecurities about feeling judged.

I may have also seemed like a child to him with less experience of dating & physical intimacy, & maybe he is looking for someone who comes across warmer/more easygoing intellectually, but also just as worldly/experienced as he is so he doesn’t need to feel judged for his own experiences/struggles so far.

I’m not sure how well this translates to your own experience, just sharing mine in case it does

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posted August 30, 2020 09:17 PM            

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Originally posted by Stoika7:
I think there's a lot of sexual chemistry in the synastry, but he's Gemini Sun/8th house and Mercury/9th house with Moon in third house, his 7th ruler Mars conj your Sun is square to your Chiron and opposite his Jupiter in Scorpio, so I mainly think he was expecting more mental/intellectual compatibility in order to feel the spark which he hasnt found...
Composite Saturn is conjunct Vertex/ASC and square to the IC/MC axis, involving the Pluto/Venus opposition, so again I think that there's an underlying sexual attraction but which might not be enough for establishing a relationship with these Saturn/Vertex/Axis aspects.
In addition, Jupiter is square Moon, so even if the sexual vibe could be there, it could be hard to find an emotional bond, and Saturn square Pluto/Venus is also sign of strong lack of compatibility and core differences.
Sun/Mercury square Chiron in 12th house, this also may suggest that intellectual incompatibility could be an issue hindering the relationship to ever start/take off the ground.
There are other harmonic aspects showing you might appreciate each other, share tastes or cultural background, but for a romantic relationship to be established it looks not enough with such strong Saturn aspects, the initial spark if it ever was there it likely quickly turned off...

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posted August 31, 2020 03:04 AM            

I can try to compare it to scenarios in my personal life... I have Gemini Moon/ASC with Jupiter in the 3rd and if communication lacks or we're on a different page I'm just not interested. This one guy where our communication really suffers (only in person oddly, on text we do fine) I hate to go out with. Not that I don't like him, I'm actually pretty attracted to him. And oddly he has quite a few Gemini placements and not sure why he doesn't feel the same block as I do, but he keeps on asking me to go out. At times his persistence wins not gonna lie (we're both Taurus Suns, but his Mars is in Aries while mine in Cancer so I guess he just bugs me the right way lol, his ASC in Cancer conjunct my Venus probably helps). But in this case I think there are Saturn/Mercury aspects, not necessarily an unaspected Mercury.

posted August 31, 2020 03:19 AM            

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Originally posted by Brenda_S:
His Gemini Mercury (which natally trines his ASC/sextiles DSC) is unaspected in synastry. I doubt the lack of spark he mentioned was related to any romantic feelings (I think there are quite a few romantic pointers) but more so on a communication level, even though it felt to you that he was 'into it'.

I can try to compare it to scenarios in my personal life... I have Gemini Moon/ASC with Jupiter in the 3rd and if communication lacks or we're on a different page I'm just not interested. This one guy where our communication really suffers (only in person oddly, on text we do fine) I hate to go out with. Not that I don't like him, I'm actually pretty attracted to him. And oddly he has quite a few Gemini placements and not sure why he doesn't feel the same block as I do, but he keeps on asking me to go out. At times his persistence wins not gonna lie (we're both Taurus Suns, but his Mars is in Aries while mine in Cancer so I guess he just bugs me the right way lol, his ASC in Cancer conjunct my Venus probably helps). But in this case I think there are Saturn/Mercury aspects, not necessarily an unaspected Mercury.

With my sister though and although we get along really well, there's always this unfamiliarity which I can't explain. My Mercury is unaspected. Every time I see her it really takes time for me to warm up to the interaction. And it's not that we don't have what to chat about, we actually have good talks most of the time, there's just something missing. Something feels forced for me.

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posted August 31, 2020 03:55 AM            

If I were to give you a suggestion I'd say appeal to his Moon which is the dispositor of his Venus (and Venus of Mars <-- DSC). It shouldn't be too difficult for you since your moon is there too and his Saturn (Moon and IC dispositor) nicely aspects your ASC/DSC. I believe this tactic works cuz of my sister, she's a master at hitting the right buttons in me, and I never noticed it but it's actually her that mentioned her 'tactic' which basically (just a theory of course) matches this idea. But in this case the puzzle fits together well so I believe if you can simply appeal to his emotions you should be able to get to have him be open to another shot.

posted August 31, 2020 04:50 AM            

First the obvious it's mercurial in nature (Virgo and 3rd house) and the idea that it's Jupiter specifically, matches his 9th house Mercury dynamic.

Jupiter is the traditional ruler of your MC (I always find the traditional ruler relatable) which your MC really is the only aspect to his Mercury (by square) so will definitely generate some energy in that area regardless, but especially if you choose to stimulate its ruler (which will sorta open its doors - again it's all about energy here.)

And 3 it'll also activate the conjunction to his Chiron which is part of a grand trine (flow of energy) with your North Node which opposes his Mercury/Venus midpoint. AKA your South Node is there activating both planets giving him a feeling of familiarity.

posted August 31, 2020 05:40 AM            

Actually the way you acted towards him I'd think is rather Plutonian trying to give him the guilt trip. But I actually don't think it'll turn him off (your Pluto conjunct his NN which NN is said to generate a lot of interest and almost like that thing you want but have a difficulty achieving, but also cuz it squares his Venus which although may make him feel something, it's not in the sense of taking action or responding - he'll likely just let it play out by itself).

If you want him to respond then his Yang planets need to be involved, probably specifically Mars and Mercury (Mercury is neutral). Which in this case your Jupiter should do the trick. Actually thinking about it again now you might've acted somewhat Virgoin, explaining what his 'actual' thought process was and criticising him for not being transparent. Maybe he will respond. I guess see how it plays out.