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mee_chryssa
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posted September 06, 2020 04:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mee_chryssa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I met a guy and he seems like a great guy and we will have a date in a few days.

I checked our charts and I saw that my Vertex is conjunct his North Node.

My time of birth is 99% correct.

Can someone explain what this means?
I'm not a fan of destiny events 😁🤷🏼‍♀️

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posted September 06, 2020 05:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It really depends on what planets are aspected,but be prepared for him to say he thinks you were destined to meet
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posted September 06, 2020 05:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mee_chryssa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In his natal he has a stellium in capricorn - sun, mercury, venus, mars all conjunct - which is conjunct my descendant, juno, neptune, uranus.
His chiron trine my venus
Juno and saturn are square and I had this in my last 6 years relationship.
His juno is opposite my venus
My moon is trine his sun and mercury
His saturn is sextile my venus and trine my mars - which I think is great because I only had squares to venus and mars until now
I don't know about his moon because I don't know the time of birth.

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posted September 06, 2020 05:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mee_chryssa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I forgot to say that his stellium is opposite my chiron too... opposition to chiron is bad, right? Like all his stellium touches all my sensitive points. Seems like too much because I have my north node in capricorn too.

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posted September 14, 2020 02:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mee_chryssa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Please, someone???

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posted September 14, 2020 02:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vansio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
your Vertex, your life—we can’t realistically say

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posted September 14, 2020 04:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
mee_chryssa, post the chart please :-)

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posted September 14, 2020 07:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mee_chryssa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
https://postimg.cc/NKbYBpLb/7d440439

Synastry astro
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mee_chryssa
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posted September 14, 2020 07:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mee_chryssa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you, Stoika!

I don't know his time of birth, but I think he's born in the morning because the Moon in Scorpio doesn't fit him.

If you want the composite too, I can post it.

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posted September 14, 2020 07:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's ok, post both synastry and composite charts with a morning TOB or noon if you think it fits him :-) ...possibly from astro.com !

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posted September 14, 2020 07:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mee_chryssa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
https://postimg.cc/v1HYVCCp/87a03559

Composite astro... without his time of birth...

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posted September 14, 2020 08:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From the synastry, his stellium conjunct your Juno/Uranus/Neptune on your DSC sextile to his Moon/Jupiter and your Sun/MC looks like a magic meeting, there could be a sudden positive impact and an immediate exciting feeling and desire to explore each other more deeply, a bond could be immediately felt. You might also feel an instant mind connection, even though mercury squares and oppositions could give verbal disagreements on the long run which might give instability with your Jupiter/Saturn square his Jupiter, so there could be some hidden differences arising with time. Your Chiron opposite his stellium and square his Lilith, could give an immediate chemistry and again and strong curiosity to understand each other's deep feelings and thought, but at the same time it might trigger each your insecurities about your direction in life and about committing to each other.
In Composite the nodes are square Mars, this is again suggesting a feeling of a fated meeting and of a familiar bond, the Moon/Jupiter midpoint is opposite Venus, this is very favourable for long term and Moon/Chiron gives a deep intimacy, so it seems that feelings might be intense, but there's a draining and potentially toxic aspect here with Moon/Chiron opposite Saturn and square Vertex, and also Pluto is square Sun/Lilith, this looks as if such intensity might reveal a toxic side of control and jelousy... The Nessus/Pluto midpoint is conjunct Vertex and square Saturn, this is a bit concerning cause to me it would suggest potential abuse...

I would ask for Todd's insight on this potentially dangerous aspect and about Orcus conjunct Moon/Chiron and square to the Nessus/Pluto midpoint (Vertex)... also noticing that in this picture, Eris is square to Uranus.

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posted September 14, 2020 08:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mee_chryssa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, right now everything seems to go well, we talked about many things and I thought about how I don't see all those squares in our conversations.

The TOB I used is 12 pm and it is very likely to be wrong...

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posted September 14, 2020 09:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mee_chryssa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So I shouldn't think about this like it can be a long term relationship? Most likely, we will take separate paths at some point.

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posted September 14, 2020 09:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
mee_chryssa, since how long have you been seeing/knowing him?

Dont know if you read about my concern for those harsh Composite aspects... to me, they honestly look harsh... I'd like to hear Todd's insight too.

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posted September 14, 2020 09:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Without his TOB I can't be sure of aspects to the IC/MC axis for long term... but I have the feeling that this might potentially become long term but also toxic or somehow abusive in the long run, that's why I'd ask Todd.

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posted September 14, 2020 09:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mee_chryssa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A week. I have known him for some time, but we didn't really talk about anything.

It was out of the blue that he complimented me a few night ago.

There are some differences and that's why I wanted to see what's with the Vertex conjunct North Node, amd with all his stellium

Thank you, Stoika!

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posted September 14, 2020 09:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You are welcome <3 If Todd doesnt show up on here in few days, post a new thread specifically for him and post this Composite from astro.com!

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posted September 14, 2020 09:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mee_chryssa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Btw, I was afraid too that it can become long term because of the sun and saturn conjunct. There are some aspects that I had with my ex bf and we were together for 6 years.

And some aspects that his juno, venus, does in synastry, were exactly the same with my ex.

The problem is that, in this one, there are some differences that I think about, that won't be easy in the long term.

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posted September 14, 2020 09:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mee_chryssa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you!!

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posted September 14, 2020 09:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree I think some mercury and jupiter harsh aspects in synastry suggest those differences, but at the same time there's a powerful draw here and a potential bond... the most concerning aspects are in Composite though, Nessus/Pluto square to Orcus/Moon/Chiron and to Saturn looks a little creepy to me... but I dont want to scare or discourage you! This is why I'd wish to hear Todd about the composite before giving you such a negative insight... sorry about this...

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posted September 14, 2020 09:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mee_chryssa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I dont know anything about Nessus and Orcus, but I'll search about it.

No need to apologize.

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posted September 14, 2020 09:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Now I have seen the synastry on astro.com and it looks clearer than the former one... first thing I see is the Ixion conjunction on his Pluto opposite your Moon... this is unfortunately another potentially aggressive aspect... also, his Eris/Lilith conjunct your Eris/Mercury square your Chiron... this looks like a strong sexual aspect but with the square to your Chiron in 12th house might look abusive again... :-(
He natally has Pluto square Saturn, so he could have a very stubborn, uncompromising and controlling side, but also having an inner conflict or block or frustration. His Lilith/Eris is square to his Venus/Mars, this looks a bit aggressive in sexual matters, as if he might focus especially on sex in relationships.

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posted September 14, 2020 10:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mee_chryssa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow. He doesn't seem like that. He actually said some things that were really sweet and seemed a bit romantic. He said that he doesn't want to pressure me and even if it takes more time, he won't lose his interest in me and everything we talked about, we were on the same page, except for the differences in style. That I'm into arts and he like sports.

But I wouldn't be surprised. I kinda had bad luck for a while. 😁 maybe saturn is playing his last tricks on me as he gets out of my 7th house.

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posted September 14, 2020 10:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mee_chryssa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Everyone around my age has their pluto opposite my moon and I have it in my natal chart and I don't really feel it from another person. I don't know how it acts out because everyone is with their pluto opposite my moon.

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