posted September 30, 2020 12:39 PM            

From direct and recent experience.. having someone’s Venus on my Dsc or on my Vertex as a conjunction, really makes me just look at them the whole time! I completely adore their face and hair.

posted September 30, 2020 01:05 PM            

I think this likely more common among those that have strong or especially predominant Venus, and/or as well as maybe in combo with very strong Earth (maybe most especially Taurus)?

Though I have both a strong Venus and Earth, I can't really relate to this. Maybe because Jupiter, Neptune, and Uranus are stronger than these, and I'm rather nonphysically focused.

(Sometimes I think I was born with all this Earth, including my Sun, the ruler of my Sun, and North Node, in an effort to try to ground me into this level/dimension more. Cause I started off about as Piscean as one could get [angular Pisces South Node, and as mentioned, strong combo of Jupiter, Neptune, and Uranus]).

Attraction and love aren't the same thing to me, and for real love, bodies need not even apply.

posted September 30, 2020 03:05 PM            

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[b]From direct and recent experience.. having someone’s Venus on my Dsc or on my Vertex as a conjunction, really makes me just look at them the whole time! I completely adore their face and hair.

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I very much relate to that. Almost like clockwork, I can bet on it that if I find a man's face aesthetically exceptionally beautiful...his venus is on my DC or in my 7th house. It's really quite funny how predictable I am in that way. However, his venus on my DC doesn't necessarily mean that I find his body/him sexually attractive. That's probably because my DC is in capricorn but my mars is in saggi conjunct neptune, so very different energies.

posted September 30, 2020 03:22 PM            

Know what you mean. The person I was most attracted to ever--we have some rather strong mutual Mars stuff with each other. The ruler of her Sun, 8th House, and co-ruler of her Moon--Mars is almost exactly conjunct my Asc (within minutes) and opposed my Venus (a strong/sensitive/highlighted Planet in my chart).

My Mars, co-ruler of my IC is conjunct her Asc (but to be fair, so isn't my Jupiter and Jupiter is closer to her Asc and rules my 5th and co-rules my 8th). My Mars is also opposed her Saturn (ruler of her 5th) Venus conjunction.

In a way, I'm also strongly turned off by her too oddly. Checked her FB recently, and there is all this strong focus on material and ego stuff, like sexy, pleasure, Goddess, everything you want, etc, etc. and all that is a complete turn off for me. So mired in the slower vibratory centers/glands and the material (i.e. the first 3 centers/glands).

As much as I love and am attracted to her, those are not the kind of energies I want to be meshing with.

I've finally come to the realization that I cannot help retrieve her. I helped to spark some definite changes and heart opening, but she is a very, very fixed/set in her ways personality, and she has to learn things the really hard way.

(Aries Sun cusping Taurus, Chart ruler Mercury in Taurus conjunct the Aries Sun and Taurus South Node, Scorpio Moon conjunct Pluto, Mars in Leo, and Uranus the strongest/predominant Planet. Probably one of the most stubborn, fixed people that I have met).

posted September 30, 2020 04:28 PM            

People that activate our 8th strongly and vice versa, tend to stir up each others shadows in uncomfortable (but sometime also exciting) ways.

But yeah, Mars can indicate a kind of intense friction and potential for anger, as well as powerful lust and physical attraction.

So put these in a strong combo, especially with some 5th House, 1st, Venus, and/or 7th--and watch the fireworks begin.

Edit to add: And her Venus Saturn conjunction, where Saturn rules her 5th, is in my 8th.

posted September 30, 2020 05:14 PM            

But she has her Aquarius Sun in my 7th and her Pisces Venus in my 8th opposed my Virgo Jupiter Mars conjunction and Virgo Saturn (Saturn is the faster moving ruler of my Sun, Mercury, Venus, and 7th).

Awhile after the earlier mentioned function, we were at a more casual mutual friend's party with alcohol--there was a sort of theme--I was in a glittery dress, sitting on the couch and talking with in an Irish accent and being unusually charming (not my usual, but I do have very strong Venus, Libra Moon, and Leo Rising so that side is there though my very strong Capricorn tends to keep it more quiet/suppressed). But yes, I could definitely feel attraction vibes coming from her.

Anyways, doesn't matter much. We're more casual friends, she has a partner and they are not open-so I try not to think of her in that way. But part of me suspects that she is likely attracted to me. And she has the most amazing eyes.

(Her physical birth time gives a Cap Rising, but it's very obvious to me that she actually has Scorpio Rising, with her faster moving ruler in Sagittarius conjunct Neptune. Her partner is a Scorpio Sun, and look like either a Leo or Sag Rising. Her Sag. Mars is in my 5th).

posted October 01, 2020 04:16 AM            

during a trip at the time I was overseas, we both showed up with specialized-alternative toothpaste as our gifts. Without a previous mention.

«*opens present* I got you this toothpaste 😏 ... 😬 I also got you a toothpaste.»

posted October 01, 2020 11:31 AM            

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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion:
Perhaps there is an unconscious part of you that has a need to physicalize love, and that combined with the usual attraction factors of relationships and bodies, leads you to hyper focus on a particular body feature or the like? Because you are attaching "love" (something ultimately completely nonphysical) to the physical? Could be sort of a ideation or rather idealization projection (that would make a lot of sense with someones Venus on your Descendant).

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Hi Galactic, this is very interesting that you mention that! I am very much attracted to physical beauty, or beauty in general, but it’s not superficial for me. I experience my attraction on a very deep level. It moves me profoundly and gives me an anchor to stay physically connected. You said it yourself.. you have all the earthy planets, to keep you somewhat grounded! I have no earth placements at all, except Capricorn Neptune, and my Dsc and NN(7th) in Taurus. My Saturn is unaspected! I’m mostly Water and Fire, with a bit of Air, I’m a hot tub basically! LoL
It’s not healthy to stay too long in that thing. So I always need a reason to get out, occasionally.

The way I prefer to have sex though or being intimate with a person, always transcends the physical! When it’s really good, I feel very connected, not just with my partner, but to the spirit world or the universe, or god or however one wants to call it... You were mentioning sth similar, I get that! It’s actually the only time when I’m completely present in the moment, and that moment feels endless! I can’t reach this with meditation. Sex, kissing, being intimate is the way for me, and that also doesn’t happen every time, it takes the right person for this. I need that moment, where I see someone across the room and my imagination goes wild, because that person highly appeals to me!

I’ve been with women and men before, I’m fluid in that way/although mostly straight, when it comes to actual dating. I’m not a material person. When someone interests me, the gender doesn’t really matter, nor their job title or how much money they have. I enter partnerships because I am highly attracted to someone based on looks and personality! These two go hand in hand for me. There are lots and lots of people who look good and are amazing people, so it’s not like I have to decide much. What all of these people lacked so far was money! They led a rather independent/alternative lifestyle.

I think much depends on what your personal goals are! I’m not interested in building a business or amass lots of money and property. If I was, I’d be more interested in a ‘provider’ sort of person, because I wouldn’t be able to do it on my own! I’m too flakey. Then my focus would look different, I’d be more into serious types, who are reliable and look good on paper. If he’s not a perv or a complete jerk and nice with kids, they’re acceptable. A lot of hetero sexual women do exactly that! So the question is, what is more genuine? I don’t want to condone anyone for their choices, though.. because people usually have reasons for their choices, that run deep!

You most likely don’t know why this chick you mentioned is so materially inclined.. maybe she didn’t experience security in her childhood. Maybe she couldn’t have the food she wanted to eat. Maybe she saw her mom in a minimum wage job wasting her life away, and it still was never enough. Maybe that’s why this girl needs to surround herself with material things, to feel valued and also to attract someone who has similar values!

William Blake once wrote: The road to excess leads to the palace of wisdom.‘ This was also Jim Morrison’s favorite quote. We sometimes need to experience ‘too much’ of something, to realize that it won’t fulfill us! Sometimes people need to experience what it’s like to be rich, to realize that money and property in the end won’t lead to happiness and fulfillment! You know that. But that girl doesn’t, yet.

So she needs a while to make her experiences, to come to that conclusion herself!! Good advice means nothing, if we can’t relate to it in concrete form, sometimes through personal experience.

My mom chose my dad for security reasons. They’ve been married now for almost 40 years. She’s financially very successful and could stand on her own, but my dad helped her built her business, and he also helped her ever since to maintain it. My mom doesn’t believe in love, she says it’s just chemicals the only thing that matters is reliability and companionship! (Capricorn Asc and Venus!) While she might be right from her perspective, I find this pretty sad!

She never experienced that kind of high you’ll get when you meet a person and you just click instantly and you can’t get enough of them, because you’re just fascinated with their whole being! She chose him, because he chose her! And then he checked all her boxes! Great job, hard working, stable, strong.. but not the one who ever excited her. We talked about this.

I’m hyper romantic, maybe also on the edge of immature, but I wouldn’t want it any other way, tbh.

The only reason for me to start a relationship at all..is because I’m crazy about that person! Physically, intellectually, emotionally, spiritually. At least in that moment. My relationships seldom last long, but I still find my spiritual lessons in them, I grow through them. NN in 7th house speaking! It’s also been a wild ride with most. A lot of memories I remember fondly!

I know that youthfulness fades, but I’m convinced beauty does not! If you were sexy once, and not only by looks but because it’s just part of who you are, then you’ll always stay that way. I’ve seen old people, where you just know, they must’ve been pretty hot back then, and they have stories to tell, and they still have that look in their eyes..

Almost every partnership I had so far, was based on instant physical attraction and fascination with their whole being. I tried to date people I wasn’t that much physically attracted to, but they had other qualities that I respected and appreciated. It didn’t work for me!!
It didn’t feel genuine on my part.

The first woman I’ve been intimate with.. I met her at a Christopher Street Day festival (couldn’t be more cliche of course).. I was there with people from Uni. I’ve never been attracted to women/girls before. From my understanding I was completely straight. Until I saw her! She made me wonder, ‘are you girl or boy?’, she wasn’t femme or butch, just really androgynous looking..

I was instantly attracted to her, i didn’t even know what hit me.. and then I lost her in the crowd again. And we spent 2 hours looking for her, because my friends suddenly really felt it was a very good idea, to let that suburbian, straight, white girl walk on the gay side for a while, so they were suddenly very supportive! They were on a mission! LoL

So 2 hours went, we didn’t find her, I gave up, and once I let go of the idea to ever see this enchanting human ever again, one of my friends said in a very motherly voice, (exhale) ‘Turn around (child!)’.. they didn’t say child, but they could’ve, so I turned around, and there she was!! Standing in front of me, looking straight in my eyes, grinning, being super sexy and straightforward..

She introduced herself, we danced for maybe a minute and then she started kissing me and we were somewhere else.. like the crowd was pushing us back and forth, the music was blaring, too loud to talk anyway, we didn’t care for anything or anyone, nothing else existed in that moment!

I’m writing this, because many encounters/relationships started in a similar way. Just a moment of many wonderful, crazy, happy coincidences.. Our relationship was very short lived, one could say a ‘failed attempt’ but to me it’s not! It’s one of the best and most profound moments in my life, and she sees it the same way.

We gave each other what we needed at that time. The split wasn’t amicable.. we were 19 at that time, we both had issues.. but we met years later also completely by chance, and it felt really good, all negative feelings were gone by then! We were just hugging, staring at each other and talking for hours.

I’m convinced that the meaning or profoundness of a relationship doesn’t depend on its length. Sometimes we need short encounters like that to bring us closer to our life purpose or just remind us, how ******* beautiful life can be, and what it means to feel real desire and be genuinely connected to someone.

I’m aware that I’m talking from a position of privilege. If I had a different upbringing, like maybe that girl you talked about, if my parents had a different relationship, if I felt insecure financially, if I looked and acted differently, my values and my approach to life and dating would be different.

Taurus on my Dsc could make me more inclined to attract people into my life who’d be more stable, reliable and financially oriented. Since I’m living the life I do, Taurus Dsc makes me focus instead on attractive partners, who help me connect with the physical world more.

My Venus and Mars in Aries find their expression through many encounters, who come out of the blue and dissapear just as fast. My Gemini Moon conj Vertex in 8th house trine that Venus/Mars make those encounters more profound than they otherwise would be, I guess.

My soul chose this lifetime to explore different sexual situations and to become more genuine and fearless when approaching people. I was very guarded, growing up. I grew up with my parents values. Now I’m leading a different life. This at least is my interpretation for now.

I don’t believe in superficiality. I believe people only appear superficial, when they’re not true to themselves, or when we don’t take enough time to look beyond their surface!

posted October 01, 2020 03:32 PM            

Btw, I can relate to a good portion of what you said about sexuality and connection with others. I'm wired in a similar way, though I haven't been sexually attracted to another man. My body is quite clear about what it likes, and that's one of the cases where I really listen to the body, but I do understand the sexual fluidity thing from an energetic and spiritual perspective--completely.

At Burning Man, I ended up kissing another guy, but it wasn't sexual/lust oriented for me (and tbh, I think I was probably on some molly at the time. Later on, we also ended up having sex with the same woman at the same time, which was a little odd and awkward for me, cause I'm very much a one to one person in that).

Re: the woman I had talked about and you touched on, unfortunately for self, I tend to see very deeply into people and into their larger/Expanded selves (often times various other life influences, deeper wounds, etc, etc).

She has Taurus South Node, with ruler of same conjunct Saturn in Pisces (Saturn and Pisces are about as difference as can be energetically). She is a rare case of a direct, literal reincarnation of a Soul (like I am as well). In that life, she had been born into a rather hedonistic and material focused society, and was very influenced by that until my people and I came along and shook up their whole culture with different and more spiritualized ideas and ideals.

I had a very powerful influence on her in that life towards that of inspiring her to raise her vibration towards the more fast vibratory and spiritualized.

I thought and hoped I could do similar in this life. But she has surrounded herself with a Guru based, "Tantra" group that is very ego and lower centered enmeshed. As long as she stays immersed in their collective field, she won't grow to her full potential, which is actually quite high in a probable sense. This is indicated by her chart ruler, Mercury being conjunct Sun and having a rather strong Jupiter also. Cayce's guidance said that the Sun and Jupiter were the highest forces of all the Planets.

I did have a powerful effect on her heart though in this life, through about a month of meditation and sending her Love remotely. She asked me for help in healing. I stopped when she cut me off the first time, because it was facilitating such a strong energetic connection between us that was very painful to my human-ego side, especially in light of that rejection.

After 7 months of ghosting, she contacted me (after telling me to NEVER contact her again), because she was going through a psychic awakening that was very intense and she felt like I could relate more than any other person she knew. But after I welcomed her with open arms and tried to reassure and counsel her, I was put on the backburner again. I felt used. On a personality level, she has narcissistic tendencies because of intense childhood sexual trauma and also a past life heart wound (same past life mentioned above, where despite our intense love and closesness, I decided to leave the earth with my non human friends).

Anyways, the situation is out of my hands. I wish her well. But for her to more fully wake up, life has to and is going to hit her upside the head with a 2x4 or two. That's what the T. Saturn and Pluto square her Sun (in 8th House), Mercury (chart ruler), and South Node conjunction is all about. Some very painful transformation and realizations.

What makes it very hard for me is that we have a twin soul connection, and that direct, other life relationship that was so unusually merged/One.

posted October 01, 2020 03:35 PM            

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Originally posted by vansio:
I liked our teeth...?...

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Not sure why, but I found the above to be both quite funny and endearing simultaneously.

You have a subtle sense of humor and wryness there Vansio. But don't worry O'Serious and Intense Initiate, your secret is safe with me.