posted October 04, 2020 05:44 AM            

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Originally posted by Stoika7:
Hi Cha!! Sorry for the delay!

I think both synastry and composite are quite intense actually, regardless of his TOB/Moon which we dont know, I maybe would imagine a composite Taurus Moon cause of the "physical" matter you're involved with, but in the big picture it doesnt seem so relevant since the Moon/Mars square is too wide.

First of all, there's a strong karmic vibe in both charts, in synastry your nodes are conjunct on your axis, and his Moon is conjunct to your Vertex. The nodes on the axis are usually a sign that the meeting is destined, maybe for an higher purpose, either way you both could feel an instant attraction or familiar feeling. His Moon on your Vertex in your 8th house but quincunx to your ASC and Sun/Uranus makes me wonder whether you have a subconscious impact emotionally to him but which he maybe can't clearly frame or whether you appear kind of "new" unusual personality for him which he usually doesnt relate too much but with a push and pull feeling of attraction... The Pluto-Venus conjunction and the Jupiter/Jupiter-Mars are quite powerful, especially cause they are in trine, this looks like a very dynamic/active and inspiring/stimulating relationship and suggests a strong potential compatibility, harmony and chemistry! Your Juno/Neptune on his Neptune opposite your Lilith signals a deep infatuation and idealization, this looks hugely "dreaming" and romantic... His Saturn/Juno is conjunct your Mercury, opposite your Moon and square to his Vertex... this could signal a strong compatibility for long term, or that this connection is there for a strong purpose...

In the Composite chart, the stellium trine to Jupiter and Vertex signals again a strong potential and compatibility which can feel "fated"... with Vertex trine Mercury, you can likely understand each other right away. Chiron forms a Grand Kite with the Nodes and Mars Eros so this looks like a karma of healing, with Chiron square Jupiter, there could be a constant exchange or need to gain awareness in order to understand the common direction and the other's intentions, this looks like helping both getting closer since Chiron is opposite Juno/Uranus, so there's a desire to know each other more and find out your differences versus what can bring you together... With Moon opposite Saturn there's again a strong potential for committment, or at least a pull to this direction. But especially the Moon/Jupiter midpoint is conjunct North Node! In addition to the Juno aspects, this really looks like a potentially strongly binding long term relationship or even marriage..... Mars/Eros square to Sun/Venus is another element of chemistry between two different personalities attracting each other, with Eros involved I think this attraction can trigger quite deep feelings and sexual intimacy...
The Juno/Jupiter midpoint is sextile Saturn and square to Pluto/Ceres/Mercury... this is very favourable for a committed long term relationship but containing some kind of conflict in individual goals or differences in the way you experience intimacy or your individual life path, life vision, not exactly an unstable trait but which could trigger a push and pull dynamic in your exchange or intimacy...
There's also this Magic Rectangle involving the Nodes, Chiron, Uranus, with the Mars/Eros on the bottom forming the grand trine with south node and chiron... this is a very special energy and mind connection strongly giving purpose to your union and a constant enrichment in your exchanges, here you could feel to actually ride the same wave somehow...
The only strong unstable trait I see here is the Jupiter/Uranus square. We dont have the axis so we cannot see Saturn or Neptune aspects to MC/IC or ASC/DSC for a long term prediciton, but Jupiter square Uranus is usually a divisive trait bringing instability, break up, divorce, or signiling something temporary which might have a beginning and a end, regardless of how long it lasts... it's not impossible to overcome this if there are other strong elements of long term so this could be better checked as soon as we have his TOB, and so Vertex would also be explored for the real possibility of establishing a relationship... in any case, Jupiter/Uranus can bring ups and downs or basic element of differences between the two people...
My overall feeling though is that this has a great potential and that there are strong elements for mutual attraction and feelings and shared interests/purposes/goals!

😍

Looking at transits... the node has passed through Composite Lilith, this could be when your interest for this person started... it is heading to Chiron, triggering all Chiron aspects, I believe that this will be likely the moment when something significant might happen between you two. this is happening by the end of the year or at early next year. It is a bit a question mark cause meanwhile transiting south node will be on Juno square to Jupiter trine the Node... this looks surprising or out of the blue, but it could either be the start or the end, either way bringing an awareness about your relationship nature. The fact is that this nodal transit will trigger a lot of powerful astral energy cause with Chiron/Juno opposition triggered, composite nodes and Eros/Mars are also involved...

I have a question... how much do you personally know him? Do you know if he's in another relationship or is he "available"...?

I know it's not easy to find out his TOB if you're not close enough yet, but in case you find out let me know!

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Thank you so much for this analisys Stoika!
So, yes there are some intense conjunctions in synastry BUT I also looked at the synastry of another female colleague who was born a month apart from us and basically they have the same synastry (same contacts)... She has Venus conj Pluto in Scorpio and Jupiter in Pisces like all the people who were born in the last 3 months in the '86, like us.

So, 1st question, do you think the Pluto contacts and the Jupiter conjunction can still count??

Clearly there is also something different (considering the synastry with this other girl born in the last months of the same year), like the fact that he touches my axis with his nodes (but my entire generation does), and then I have Mars conj Jupiter in my chart and not Jupiter alone, so it changes the picture in some way. My Sun and Uranus trine the nodes of my entire generation (I mean people I grew up with/went to school in the same class), etc. Also we have that nice Mercury sextile Mercury that they don't share and better Mercury contacts (I'm trying to understand the differences because he and this girl are just colleagues, though they seem to be friends and have fun together as well). I also find fascinating his Mercury in my 12th house; I don't have had many 12th house overlays (in close relationships), I should say none, just with a close female friend.

So you understand what I'm saying, do all this still have relevance? In your opinion are they still felt (the more "generational" aspects) when they play out on an interpersonal level?

Secondly, yes the composite looks intense, I like seeing the stellium there and I get why I feel "happier" around him -and I smile so stupidly XDXDXD.
But I don't know exactly WHAT of all this makes me perceive him as too "intense" sometimes or gives me rushes of overwhelming energy -and also shyness- to the point that I've already taken "pauses" from him trying to retreat a little, not because I don't want to interact -I like talking to him a lot, like all the Mercury contacts can show...- , but my feelings really got a little bit out of control between July-September.

So the 2nd question is, what do you think is giving me this "overwhelming" feeling?
Considering Pluto-Venus DW in synastry, and my plutonic natal it is not strange for me to react this way and be overwhelmed by myself ahaha... but... is there anything you relate to his specifically? (being overwhelmed by him/his personality)

Finally, to answer your last question: I've known him since June, when I started going to the gym after the lockdown. At first I didn't like him at all, he's not my type (very muscular etc.)... but then after the first real interaction I really liked the energy the fun the lightness -ironically- the positive vibe he gave me... and he made me laugh... so basically he killed me XD XD
I know we are very different and have VERY different styles and no, always to answer your question, I don't know him well. Though I've already collected a lot of personal info about his life and family (through social media), so here is where the investigative plutonic powers of stalking become effective ahaha XDXD. Composite Pluto-Mercury in Scorpio obsessiveness at work XD

So it's like knowing him already more than I should actually do, it's like having a strong pull to find out everything about who he is to justify my impressions/feelings, at the same time I hope to have at least the time to develop a sort of friendship with him. I almost always see him in the group context of the gym, and since he is a business partner in this activity, I really don't know if he could ever consider having something more with me.... which I don't wish now either... but I caught him staring at me more than once -very scorpio fashion-, even though it can be for a variety of reasons...

As long as the "separation" aspects you mentioned in composite (we also have uranus-sat opp moon in synastry that I don't particularly love), I have to say that I have MARS/JUP/URANUS square in my natal, and probably he has Jup/Uranus square in his own, it's very generational and it clearly shows up in the midpoint chart. Separation is something I'm also "afraid" of because I'm already seeing how this thing is going on intermittently with me coming and going from the gym and the town and he having different working hours every week, the interaction is soo off and on.... :/

posted October 04, 2020 02:27 PM            

When there's a prevalence of "generational" aspects, the best way to understand the impact of such aspects is to have correct TOBs cause angles and houses make the difference... in this case, since we dont have his TOB, we need to look at the "whole picture" created by planet aspects. If natal Venus/Pluto was common in those months, then we need to look at the wideness of the contact. (strange that Venus was so "slow", maybe there was a retrograde transit, and this might also make a little difference, but here we would split hairs :-D )... Your natal Venus/Pluto conjunction is pretty close and it mainly falls to his Venus and your Pluto falls on his Pluto/Venus midpoint, so I would consider this aspect quite strong no matter the generational aspect, if his conjunction was closer then it would be even much stronger... Your Mars conjunct Jupiter to his Jupiter is again strong because your Mars is there and his Jupiter falling in your 5th, plus the trine to the venus/pluto makes the attraction quite overwhelming...

The nodes are on your ASC and this is not generational, this depends on your TOB... so yes, your nodal conjunction is generational, but the fact that it falls on your ASC/DSC axis makes this look quite "magic". Then your Vertex on his Moon could also give an overwhelming feeling... and with his Vertex square your Mercury your communication feels empowered as you might actually feel an underlying psychic mind connection.....
As for the Composite Uranus square Jupiter, yes you have it natally, but still this means that the combination of you two can receive such unstable energy... for instance, if you natally had a trine instead of the square, you could have a more "solid" feeling about people born in your same close period...

I would say that the whole picture is that there are strong compatibilies and energies of attraction/chemistry "beyond" your visible differences (look, life style, tastes and so on) but that could still be harmoniously combined, but there's also a challenging aspect in the long run with Uranus vs Jupiter which is empowered by the composite Juno/Jupiter midpoint square to Pluto/Mercury, cause this might signal a real core difference in life path and individual ambitions which might interfere and give "power" to the divisive energy of Uranus square Jupiter... so this is why I said that it would be important to have his TOB to look at the Composite Vertex aspect and Composite angles aspects for a possible realistic "ground".

Another strong element though is the karma energy present in both charts, given by the nodes and Chiron aspects, in a way that it suggests a significant purpose to this meeting :-) especially Chiron square Jupiter looks quite powerful, and it is also opposite Juno, and with transiting node going to "activate" this in a couple of months, so this to me looks like a significant experience in questioning one's needs and true desires in relationship matters, it's like asking yourself "what do I really look for in a potential partner, beyond appearance? what are the differences between me and a potential partner that could enrich me or give me awareness about my life direction?"

posted October 05, 2020 03:03 PM            

Yes depite being born 3 months apart we have Venus in the same degree (mine is 11'11 scorpio and his 11'43 or similar).
Also we cannot be sure of the Vertex clearly. He used to finish my sentences sometimes, so rare when someone doesn't even know you....

In the Davison chart we have the same stellium + the moon there.

posted October 05, 2020 05:58 PM            

Well, I think that since you actually have a "physical" connection, I mean not a long distance/virtual one, even if you dont know him so well or didnt have a chance to exchage in a more intimate situation (you and him alone) looking at the chart can still give an idea of the potential energy between the two and of possible outcomes, but yes, his TOB could make aspects and direction of the connection clearer... I cant think of a possible way you could find out though... unless you become closer... but anyway, I would wait for the transiting node hitting composite Chiron before saying "it isn't matched by reality" :-) :-)

With these aspects, I am convinced he's very attracted by you. But his natal aspects could match with the fact that you don't have a clear idea of his attitudes in terms of attraction towards you... He's Capricorn Mars, this gives him a strict discipline in work envirnoment and makes him very careful in pursuing a potential partner... so his behaviour might look reserved and "distant" from someone he's attracted to, and I think this aspects takes time before he can make the first move... in addition, he has Neptune square Sun, which can give him hesitation and insecurity. Consider also that mars retrograde is going to be square to his Capricorn Mars soon. This might strongly restrain his moves and steps ahead at this moment, in whatever he's involved. Maybe, when tr. Mars will reach Composite North Node, some clearer signals might arrive, but I assume that things won't really develope until Mars goes direct at the beginning of november, or just very slow, and just after that I think you can have more evidences about his interests in you.

Meanwhile, transiting Mercury/Juno approaching Composite Pluto/Mercury, so I think that communication might happen more often in a near future :-)

Can I check the Davidson?

posted October 07, 2020 06:05 AM            

Lately I've also been thinking about that kid in my childhood that I loved for almost 8 years; it's the only person I've got a composite stellium with, and now I think it's no coincidence I remember this because there are similarities, this kid (let's call him A) was my everything, I was an innocent little girl but soo in love, we then became friends the last year at primary school, and I still loved him years after (I was preteen) when I didn't even see him anymore, none could compare to him for me.

So, D (gym) and A (kid) were born less than 20 days apart; this explains the similarities and why I'm thinking about A so strongly now -like a long lost memory, that is not lost at all.

I leave here our synastry and compo, maybe you can have a look at it and find out why A was so special to me (this one I already know how it went, so you can take it as further practice if you like it lol) :> obviously I don't have his TOB, I was not into astrology at primary school aha.
Some similarities between the charts are quite evident I think.

synastry with A http://imgur.com/MhyVtFK

posted October 07, 2020 05:27 PM            

Yes, the charts are incredibly similar, and his Jupiter falls again in your 5th house, square your Saturn (the past versus the present?) and most of all here you had the Chiron conjunction in your 8th house which looks very intimate and hard to let go... In the Composite, the lilith/juno/moon t-square looks even more passionate than the present infatuation, and the Saturn/Uranus square Jupiter is there again, which is again a generational aspect but that might suggest that you could be easily separated from people of your same age (?)... did you experience such separation also with other people with their bday close to yours?
And then, yes, North Node in Aries again... too bad we cant see if there are differences with houses and axis... but North Node in Aries has usually to do with individual choices and path... and again the magic rectangle with Nodes and Chiron, and the Mars Grand Trine... so it really seems the energies you share with the kid from your past and this actual person are very similar and it could be that you unconsciously "recognized" this same energy in connecting with your trainer :-)
With Uranus trine north node... what about a second chance in your life to re-experience that kind of energy, and with transiting NNode approaching Chiron, a reviewing/healing of an old painful separation? :-)

posted October 11, 2020 04:41 AM            

Regarding this connection, I've thought so much about A. the last week that I almost decided to contact him and allow me some closure (even though I think closure may be more an internal issue most of the times), but then I was not sure about how it would have been received; anyway, I like your take on the healing part, I think that having this pain of an ancient separation coming out now has certainly highlighted that it was still lingering in my heart/soul after all this time.

Sometimes I don't like some facets of D. btw, still not sure if he's genuine or a womanizer because I don't know him well; sometimes he says things that leave me puzzled, or it's just how it articulates the comment or the words he uses... Some days ago we had an opportunity to talk alone in the doorway of the gym and we found out both thought the other was younger (we both look younger and under 30). A woman (another client) just happened to walk by, she saw us talking and she joked: "Don't believe him! Don't believe anything he says! He's a man!!" Lol. There is always some truth in this aha. Men. Well.
Then he said something about the fact that he works among women and that really made me take some distance, I greeted him and walked away...

Ah, the big news is..... that I've got a job in a "liceo sportivo"..... Transiting Mars at work again? Mars is sports and physical activity... it doesn't seem casual to me. XD