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IV4Four
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posted October 14, 2020 07:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IV4Four     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello,

I cannot find any source for this online.

Any interpretation would be helpful.

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posted October 14, 2020 08:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Are the ages the same?

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posted October 15, 2020 08:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for IV4Four     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
1 year apart!

I can post chart if it helps?!

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posted October 15, 2020 09:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IV4Four     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted October 15, 2020 10:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If only one year apart, one or both were probably retrograde for awhile.

So I'd say both Saturns rule each other out and are neutral relative to each other.

For the purposes of Saturn, not necessary to post chart.

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posted October 16, 2020 05:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for IV4Four     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, both Saturns are retrograde in the 5th house.

So the reason why I asked was I read somewhere that 5th house Saturn conjunction could be interpreted as the couple having a child during the Saturn return? Or becoming a parent was apart of their Saturn return experience.

Any idea?

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posted October 16, 2020 02:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That was probably referring to Saturn and another person's planet other than Saturn.

Saturn in the 5th would be negative for having children.

But if Saturn was conjunct another person's planet, such as Jupiter, maybe not.

A Saturn return refers to a phase of life and in this context, women usually have children before their 1st Saturn return.

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posted October 16, 2020 07:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IV4Four     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ah got it that makes sense.

I realize that what I read was for someone with a huge age difference.

We were trying for a baby, but unfortunately, we were unsuccessful. Shortly after that, we unforeseeably broke up. It was like something just went wrong and she decided she needed to leave. So I've been looking into our charts to see if there was anything I missed.

So far I haven't figured it out.

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posted October 16, 2020 09:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry.

I can try to help you if you'd like to post a synastry chart.

There are usually several others that offer opinions also.

You might want to provide a brief paragraph what to look for.

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posted October 16, 2020 10:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IV4Four     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh yeah, I posted before and it got washed down.

When I met her it was an instant attraction. We were very connected to each, physically, emotionally, and spiritually. Our relationship moved really quickly. We really wanted to get married, build a home, and a family, etc.

Recently, we hit a random rough patch, and because of all the stress she was going through, she decided that we needed to separate. It really caught me off guard, because how could someone who wanted to build a future with you leave so quickly, and so abruptly. It has been the most painful breakup I've experienced in my entire life. I saw a future with this person, and it was all washed away randomly in one 3 days.

I know at the time her moon was transiting her 12th house, and she is 12th house heavy. I couldn't find anything else that played into this. Our Sun's are Sq, but we actually h a really good communication and understanding of each other.

Any help would be great! I've been trying to figure this out since she left 10/9.

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posted October 17, 2020 08:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Are you the inside blue?

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posted October 17, 2020 08:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for IV4Four     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SecretGeek:
Are you the inside blue?

Yes!

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posted October 17, 2020 09:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Both Mars' are opposite. Was she the more dominant since your Mars is in Pisces and hers is in Virgo?

By the way, I am a Leo with Virgo Mars.

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posted October 17, 2020 02:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IV4Four     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It depends.. at times she was a bit more dominant. She at times seemed a bit passive, and timid. She was soft and sensitive during certain times.

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posted October 17, 2020 04:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The thing about Taurus and Leo that I have experienced, are they are fixed (tough to change) cross (90 degrees) signs.

I have read that Leos generally are the most dominant types of people of all fixed signs, with Scorpio second.

For example, your Sun is square her Sun.

That relationship can create dominant friction.

But it can also be sexually more hot.

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posted October 17, 2020 06:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your Venus trine to her Chiron is very strong and good.

With her Chiron being in her 12th, it might not be as clear to her as it is to you.

It might be something in her subconscious mind but in your conscious mind.

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posted October 17, 2020 06:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Her Saturn sextile to your Venus is very good.

Your Saturn might be a little too close to her NN for comfort for her.

Did she ever complain about you trying to control her or cramp her style?

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posted October 17, 2020 07:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IV4Four     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by SecretGeek:
Her Saturn sextile to your Venus is very good.

Your Saturn might be a little too close to her NN for comfort for her.

Did she ever complain about you trying to control her or cramp her style?


She didn't really feel like I was cramping her style, mostly that I taught her when to rest, which was a good thing.

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There's a double whammy hard aspect with Sun and Pluto.

One's a square and the other's an opposite.

I'd say those could cause issues.

Her Pluto is in the 4th.

Any issues with her home life as far as you're concerned?

The birth times are correct?

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posted October 17, 2020 09:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IV4Four     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SecretGeek:
There's a double whammy hard aspect with Sun and Pluto.

One's a square and the other's an opposite.

I'd say those could cause issues.

Her Pluto is in the 4th.

Any issues with her home life as far as you're concerned?

The birth times are correct?


Yes her family had a lot of issues which lead to her staying with me for 3 days out the week. She eventually started feeling really stressed out by all the changes. So I guess that how that manifested.

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posted October 17, 2020 09:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can you post her chart please?

Let me know if either of the birth times are not known.

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posted October 17, 2020 09:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IV4Four     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sure!

[img]https://i.imgur.com/n3tljQC.png[/img]

Hope this helps, really wanted to understand this relationship... It hurts a lot. but I guess there's a lesson somewhere..

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posted October 17, 2020 09:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
381 Myrrha
2150 Nyctimene

These two asteroids above are in her 12th house.

Was she sexually abused to your knowledge?

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posted October 17, 2020 10:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also, do you have a support group?

For example, someone you can speak with like at a church, etc.

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posted October 17, 2020 10:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also, her Saturn return is being invoked for the second time this year.

I know because I have the same thing but I am older.

Right now, it is about 7 degrees away for the second time this year and closing.

That would explain a lot.

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