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Topic: i think i found a soulmate? novice astrologer, wanting a consult pls :)
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redsunflower
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posted October 28, 2020 10:34 PM
  
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Graham
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posted October 29, 2020 02:12 AM
Hi rsf.The link just takes me to a blank screen. IP: Logged |
redsunflower
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posted October 29, 2020 05:19 AM
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Hi rsf.The link just takes me to a blank screen.
my bad, i fixed the link  IP: Logged |
Graham
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posted October 29, 2020 05:34 AM
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my bad, i fixed the link
I am still getting only a blank screen, rsf.
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virgoscorpio
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posted October 29, 2020 09:39 AM
I was able to see the charts. You have to make sure you don’t copy the url part on each side of the link.IP: Logged |
anska5
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posted October 29, 2020 10:00 AM
Are you red or blue?IP: Logged |
redsunflower
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posted October 29, 2020 12:24 PM
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Are you red or blue?
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redsunflower
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posted October 29, 2020 12:25 PM
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Graham
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posted October 29, 2020 02:44 PM
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im not sure how to fix it, im sorry, but here is the link without trying to put the UBB code inhttps://imgur.com/gallery/SXktH4e
I still get a blank screen from the link, when using my MacBook - but the chart appears when using my iPad. So ... I will use the iPad. IP: Logged |
redsunflower
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posted October 29, 2020 02:45 PM
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I still get a blank screen from the link, when using my MacBook - but the chart appears when using my iPad.So ... I will use the iPad.
okie, thanks for going through the trouble
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Graham
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posted October 30, 2020 03:22 AM
Please confirm that I have posted below the correct "synastry with rsf on the outside" chart.It will also help me to know the gender of both yourself and blue (both female?) ... and whether the two of you were born (and raised) in different cultures, or backgrounds.  IP: Logged |
redsunflower
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posted October 30, 2020 05:21 AM
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redsunflower
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posted October 30, 2020 05:36 AM
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redsunflower
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posted October 30, 2020 05:37 AM
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Graham
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posted October 30, 2020 06:45 AM
Originally posted by rsf :- quote:
we are both musicians and met each other through work
This may be very significant ... because the Venus-Neptune-North Node Grand Trine (in the Composite chart) is given a focus (in the Davison chart) by the addition of a Tsquare that has a Mercury-opposite-Chiron base and Neptune at the apex.So ... Neptune (at the anaretic degree of Capricorn) is a significant astrological indicator/influence in this relationship. IP: Logged |
Graham
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posted October 30, 2020 10:40 AM
When astrologically exploring relationships, I work with the assumptions that :-1. The Davison chart reveals the purpose of the two people being in the relationship. 2. The Composite chart reveals how others see them (as a two-person team). 3. The Synastry comparison (of the two individual natal charts) reveals the difficulty/ease of the couple's interaction with each other.
__________________________________________________________________ So ... I always look first at the Sun in the Davison/Relationship chart, because (as in all other natal charts) the overall objective/purpose is to "make the Sun shine". Your Davison chart Sun is at 18Taurus19 ... which is described by the Sabian Symbol for Taurus 19 :- "A NEW CONTINENT IS RISING OUT OF THE OCEAN This Symbol shows the rising of a new place, a place to be, a new country or somewhere to strive for a new life. It implies that you can find that extra spark to create a brand new, original opportunity. This pictures the beginning of something that holds enormous potential for the future. There is much work to be done developing this into something fertile and productive. A whole new field of activity is coming to light. What you have done in the past has led you to this, but these new beginnings need to be met with a fresh sense of purpose and possibility. Enormous potentiality emerging. Sudden eruptions of talent or fields of endeavor. New trends and ways of being. Atlantis and ancient underwater cities. Foreign nations. The Caution: Continually seeking 'new worlds' - not finding a place and cooperation in the existing one. Moving on constantly without finishing up with the old. Fickleness." ( [ http://sabiansymbols.com/symbol-lookup/ ) And that description seems (imo) to suggest that the purpose of this relationship might be to produce something "new" - perhaps a romance, but more likely (because of the Neptune emphasis) in the field of music. IP: Logged |
Travelman
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posted October 30, 2020 01:02 PM
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Originally posted by Graham:
When astrologically exploring relationships, I work with the assumptions that :-1. The Davison chart reveals the purpose of the two people being in the relationship. 2. The Composite chart reveals how others see them (as a two-person team). 3. The Synastry comparison (of the two individual natal charts) reveals the difficulty/ease of the couple's interaction with each other.
__________________________________________________________________ So ... I always look first at the Sun in the Davison/Relationship chart, because (as in all other natal charts) the overall objective/purpose is to "make the Sun shine". Your Davison chart Sun is at 18Capricorn19 ... which is described by the Sabian Symbol for Capricorn 19 :- "A NEW CONTINENT IS RISING OUT OF THE OCEAN This Symbol shows the rising of a new place, a place to be, a new country or somewhere to strive for a new life. It implies that you can find that extra spark to create a brand new, original opportunity. This pictures the beginning of something that holds enormous potential for the future. There is much work to be done developing this into something fertile and productive. A whole new field of activity is coming to light. What you have done in the past has led you to this, but these new beginnings need to be met with a fresh sense of purpose and possibility. Enormous potentiality emerging. Sudden eruptions of talent or fields of endeavor. New trends and ways of being. Atlantis and ancient underwater cities. Foreign nations. The Caution: Continually seeking 'new worlds' - not finding a place and cooperation in the existing one. Moving on constantly without finishing up with the old. Fickleness." ( http://sabiansymbols.com/symbol-lookup/ )
Hi, I was using that site but I don't really get it. Seems too...cryptic maybe? Like I read the descriptions for 18 Leo (Sun), 8 Leo (Mercury), 15 Leo (Venus), and 22 Leo (Mars) (all of those were rounded up to the next number however, as the site explained) and the descriptions sounded interesting or lovely but I could not help but go "huh?" in trying to figure out how to assign it any meaning to my Davison chart. A little over my head, IP: Logged |
redsunflower
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posted October 30, 2020 01:11 PM
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Graham
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posted October 30, 2020 01:16 PM
Originally posted by Travelman :- quote:
I was using Lynda Hill's Sabian Symbol site but I don't really get it. Seems too...cryptic maybe? Like I read the descriptions for 18 Leo (Sun), 15 Leo (Venus), and 22 Leo (Mars) (all of those were rounded up as the site explained) and the descriptions sounded interesting or lovely but I could not help but go "huh?" in trying to figure out how to assign it any meaning to my Davison chart.
Rsf will want to stay on-topic here. ... But your point may provoke a "discussion worth having", if raised on a thread of its own. IP: Logged |
Graham
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posted October 30, 2020 01:30 PM
Originally posted by rsf :- quote:
[/b]I'm a little confused on the capricorn sun because when I run the chart, the sun is in taurus in the 10th house, shes an early Gemini and I'm an early Taurus so I thought the median of the two would fall in Taurus (granted, the sun is in the 10th house)? Maybe I am selecting the wrong Davison chart?[/b]
You are correct - I had a brain fart, and typed Capricorn instead of Taurus. ... However, the quote is for Sabian Symbol Taurus 19 - so my comments are valid, and I shall now correct the typo (and then return here to reply to your questions below).
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I was also curious about the davison rising and descendant, what could the purpose possibly be with a leo rising and aquarius descendant conjunct uranus?
Originality? ... expressing (Leo) original views (Uranus) in society (Aquarius)
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Also, thank you for the insight on the grand trine, I didn't know if it would be significant because it involves a node. How do you think this would play out based on the fact it is placed in the 1st, 5th and 8th?
Creativity? ... Self (1st) connecting with the values of others (8th) creatively (5th) ... (The north node = personal growth/development)
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Also, I couldn't find much information on t-squares in the composite and im a bit confused on whether chiron or mercury would be the focus and the nature of how neptune being the apex would relieve the energy - if you could elaborate please.
The Chiron-Mercury opposition creates tension that is released though apex-planet Neptune - BUT, not always constructively (until the Sabian Symbol message of the degree opposing Neptune is understood, and acted upon). So ... in your Davison Chart ... Chiron is in Libra/3rd : Mercury is in Aries/9th : Neptune is in Capricorn/6th and the Sabian Symbol Symbol Cancer 30 message is in 12th house. The Libra Chiron (of feeling someone/something is missing from our life) "wounds" the ability of Mercury (to focus on expanding 9th house horizons), which Neptune releases/expresses as a 12th house "hidden enemy" (of Capricorn conformity/adherence to the status quo). The message of Sabian Symbol Cancer 30 is about "having a say, with the help of that someone who is missing from your life". When I was your age, this would (almost certainly) have been about standing-up-to-be-counted in a female-female romantic relationship. ... However, with the two of you, I suspect it is more likely to about this partnership expressing individuality in the field of music - ( but that does not mean it cannot also be a romantic relationship).
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also, in your experience, are neptunian relationships normally well favoured?
Excellent for musical inspiration ... but can be a rose-coloured-spectacles planet in romance.IP: Logged |
todd
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posted October 30, 2020 07:22 PM
Hi
Could you post a midpoint composite including the vertex
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redsunflower
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posted October 30, 2020 07:58 PM
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redsunflower
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posted October 31, 2020 10:42 AM
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Graham
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posted October 31, 2020 12:26 PM
I have to now sign off the forum for today - and todd will explore the Composite chart better than me. ... But, I shall look at the Synastry + Natal charts asap tomorrow.However ... from your last reply to me ... it does look as though you might have a role to play in her becoming an "out and proud" role model for others in her native country. ... [That's why I asked about cultural differences.] IP: Logged |
todd
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posted October 31, 2020 02:24 PM
Hi
Starting with the obvious,Sappho is conjunct the south node showing you gay orientation. Venus is trine to Sappho and the south node so the affection between your is very constant and supportively. Sappho and Venus both give artistic abilities with Sappho emphasizing lyrics and poetry.this creativity is enhanced as has already been mentioned by the grand trine including the node and venus.
Pallas is square to mercury so again the spoken and poetic arts are indicated.Venus and Neptune add abilities in acting and theater.
Eros/psyche midpoint is square to Mars showing a ultra,idealistic,romantic love between you.this is the feeling of a child's first love..infatuation and innocence.
This is emphasizes by Venus being square to Lilith. This shows your love for each other is fluid and spontaneous like you have always been lovers.
Sappho with node certainly can give a feeling of soulmate as you feel you are one and not separate spirits.
Uranus is conjunct to Pallas and square to mercury which gives a strong psychic/astral connection.you bring idea scout of each other and never lack new inspiration.For all the attraction there are aspects destiny that work against this love .
First the vertex is conjunct to Orcus and the anti-vertex is conjunct Jupiter while the sun forms a t square.the vertex can show the influence of higher planes,or fate and destiny,but here the t square is very ominous. It bodes outside uncontrollable influence to break you up.it might be family influence.it could as you have alluded to the cultural bias against your life style.in addition there is a t square with mars square the Juno/nessus opposition.in addition to family or cultural interference again this adds the likelyhood of emotional issues about your sexual identity.
this aspect is also present as there is a moon conjunct to Pluto.
This conjunction is square the opposition ceres/psyche. There Ceres/psyche opposition would add to the love ate feelings between you,but with Pluto conjunct the moon there are unconscious psychological issue present.though you both have managed to establish your love,it seems the forces of societal pressure are going to cone against you.this seems like a Greek tragedy about to occur .Juno is trine to Jupiter which is exceptional favorable for a committed relationship.and the midpoint is conjunct to eris which shows the common passion that this relationship brings out of you.
I say a Greek tragedy because aspects in this chart combine to overwhelm your emotional balance and unleased the unconscious emotional havoc.
Jupiter is square to the sun.this can be societal disapproval.mars is square to Juno which can also be the same problem.
The sun/Juno midpoint is opposed to the moon and Pluto and the mars/Jupiter midpoint is conjunct the moon and Pluto.so it is as if the gods ate doing everything g they to bring the desyructive unconscious energies into consciousness.
Then as if there were not enough aspects working against,the Saturn/moon midpoint is conjunct to Uranus which invariably shows a break up.the Saturn/Pluto midpoint is also conjunct to Uranus which adds a extremely depressive emotion shadow over you.
I think life and society are going to turn against this love.and if resist the forced separation will only be more complete.
I feel so bad to have to present this scenario,this why I tepeatly call it a Greek tragedy. Fate is going against you and your love for each other.
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