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angel4845
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posted November 04, 2020 08:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I feel super hopeless with astrology...

I have been studying and using predictive astrology techniques for several years now. I've even bought books, watched videos, and analyzed married couples' synastry, returns charts, progressions, etc.

I even hate my birth chart and my progressed chart doesn't even look that great except that my PROGRESSED VENUS will conjunct my natal sun in less than two years... but even then the transits will **** it up.

I'm so impatient with this love **** (moon in Aries in the seventh house square North node/Uranus/Neptune over here!). I keep dating jerks left to right and I can't seem to keep up with a relationship going smoothly, something always has to **** it up either the guy, me, or just life circumstances.

Do I blame my birth chart for this? or am I just generally in ****** luck in every solar return and venus return and mars return and lunar return casting every year????

seriously, on every return chart, I see beautiful aspects for opportunities to find love and I often DO!!! but a malefic is ALWAYS PRESENT somehow to SCREW **** UP for me..

I feel like because I was born with ****** aspects Libra rising, Moon in Aries conjunct Eris in the seventh square North node, Uranus, Asteroid Briede, and Neptune. I'm just never going to find marriage. I feel like no matter how many guys I will date for the rest of my life, I'll never find true love. (I know I'm super moon square Neptune over here, over idealizing the true romance out of this world soulmate)...

My question is does free will even real???? Can I beat these ****** return charts every year and overcome obstacles in my birth chart to find the one? is it even possible?

Can anyone relate? If so please tell me where your at and how you've overcome malefic aspecting your 7th house/5th?

It's upsetting to always to talk to astrologers and say "if you have great aspects for love but a malefic is present avoid relationship it won't last) that's like EVERY YEAR FOR ME EVEN IN THE FUTURE REST OF MY LIFE. Sorry I know I'm a drama queen right now, I'm just so frustrated with astrology to the point where I just don't even want to look at it anymore and try to apply the law of attraction now because astrology is not helping,

I feel like it's only manifesting a love curse in my mind.

PLEASE DO NOT QUOTE THANK YOU!!

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posted November 04, 2020 09:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Travelman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by angel4845:
I feel super hopeless with astrology...

I have been studying and using predictive astrology techniques for several years now. I've even bought books, watched videos, and analyzed married couples' synastry, returns charts, progressions, etc.

I even hate my birth chart and my progressed chart doesn't even look that great except that my PROGRESSED VENUS will conjunct my natal sun in less than two years... but even then the transits will **** it up.

I'm so impatient with this love **** (moon in Aries in the seventh house square North node/Uranus/Neptune over here!). I keep dating jerks left to right and I can't seem to keep up with a relationship going smoothly, something always has to **** it up either the guy, me, or just life circumstances.

Do I blame my birth chart for this? or am I just generally in ****** luck in every solar return and venus return and mars return and lunar return casting every year????

seriously, on every return chart, I see beautiful aspects for opportunities to find love and I often DO!!! but a malefic is ALWAYS PRESENT somehow to SCREW **** UP for me..

I feel like because I was born with ****** aspects Libra rising, Moon in Aries conjunct Eris in the seventh square North node, Uranus, Asteroid Briede, and Neptune. I'm just never going to find marriage. I feel like no matter how many guys I will date for the rest of my life, I'll never find true love. (I know I'm super moon square Neptune over here, over idealizing the true romance out of this world soulmate)...

My question is does free will even real???? Can I beat these ****** return charts every year and overcome obstacles in my birth chart to find the one? is it even possible?

Can anyone relate? If so please tell me where your at and how you've overcome malefic aspecting your 7th house/5th?

It's upsetting to always to talk to astrologers and say "if you have great aspects for love but a malefic is present avoid relationship it won't last) that's like EVERY YEAR FOR ME EVEN IN THE FUTURE REST OF MY LIFE. Sorry I know I'm a drama queen right now, I'm just so frustrated with astrology to the point where I just don't even want to look at it anymore and try to apply the law of attraction now because astrology is not helping,

I feel like it's only manifesting a love curse in my mind.

PLEASE DO NOT QUOTE THANK YOU!!


Free will exists, planets do not control you. It all depends on your attitude.

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posted November 04, 2020 09:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you travelman! Can you edit your post please and delete my quote? As I don’t want to keep track of my posts as others personally know me on here.

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posted November 04, 2020 10:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Saggy7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi angel,

I can understand how you feel. That is how I feel about finding someone and my previous relationships most of the time. There is always something.
And yes, even with "free will", it feels like my free will is not enough. Something can still happen that is completely out of my control that will make the rs not work.

So I feel like the whole "free will" thing doesn't cut it here, unfortunately. At least not for me.

I have been alone for a while now (it is a long time for me personally), zero dating (until just the other day), and it helped me get in touch with myself. I feel less frustrated and less impatient about finding a partner. It always remains a wish of mine deep down, but I am more accepting of it all, I am more at peace being alone (before I could never stay alone for too long), and I am trying to be more and more at peace about finding that someone, adopting the "whenever it happens" and "whatever is meant to be" kind of attitude.

Just recently I met someone (my first date in a long time), it took a lot for me to decide to do it, I was stuck in a rut of not wanting to try anything with anyone anymore...and even though I didn't get my hopes up in a way, the hopeless romantic in me is always I guess, hoping..and I just got feedback from todd that it looks just like a hookup situation. Lol

So there I am sorry if I am not being helpful here, I guess the whole purpose of me chiming in is to let you know that you are not alone. And again, the hopeless romantic in me would like to believe, that someday..somehow..it will happen

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posted November 04, 2020 12:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Change yourself and your subconscious programming, and you can change your life.

With that said, we also come in with general life plans as set up by our Higher self in cahoots with Expanded Guidance which has the whole database of all information ever existed at it's tips for considering.

The purpose of entry into this dimension for most Souls is hoped for growth. We grow most from difficulty, challenge, stress, testing, much like a muscle lifting heavy weight and eventually becoming stronger because of that.

Anyways, once we master certain Soul lessons, then often outer conditions can and will change for us.

But I would suggest you getting to the root behind these patterns. It could be part of your life plan, but it could also just be part of limited subconscious programming that you are not conscious to enough. Often times such patterns stem from either a lack of self love/worth or fear of deeper intimacy (and behind that fear can be any number of deeper fears, such as fear of abandonment). In turn, these often come from childhood hurts and/or past life related dynamics.

Anyways, I suggest digging deeper into your psyche. Astrology doesn't cause anything to begin with, it only reflects, in a symbolic language, what is already there. It's a cosmic clock and road-map, not the actual cause.

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posted November 04, 2020 12:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not speaking casually in the above btw, but also from experience.

I have Libra Moon conjunct Virgo Saturn where Saturn is the faster moving ruler of my DESC and Venus Signs. I have Pisces South Node in 7th House.

Another way of saying/putting that, is saying that I came in with strong co-dependent tendencies.

During my younger years, I went through a string of disappointing to downright toxic romantic connections. It finally reached a breaking point of being with a pathological liar who drug me through the emotional mud. As my mom was sick with cancer, my girl"friend" told me she had cancer and was going to die.

She was my first and we only had sex once, and I used protection and that protection stayed in tact, and yet after she broke up with me (rather coldly and on the phone mind you), she told me she was pregnant with my child. I still didn't suspect she was a pathological liar, but a couple of mutual female friends who had known her far longer than I had, clued me in and then all the puzzle pieces fit. At that time, I tended to look for and see the good in others, especially women.

Anyways, then one more relationship where the woman broke up with me a couple weeks after my mom died (it was a good move on her part, it wasn't a particularly healthy relationship to begin with), I said ENOUGH with relationships and looking to be in one. Clearly there is something going on within me that is contributing to attracting these disappointing to downright fuckedup situations.

So I said, I'm going to be alone awhile and just work on myself and on my spiritual growth. Sometime after that, I had a dream about seeing a full Moon, which was unusually affecting for some reason.

Sometime after that, I met my twin soul via my best (male) friend who had the same birthday as her, and having started the healing process on myself in earnest, I was able to have a healing effect on her as well. She grew up in a very loveless and cold childhood where she got very little positivty, love, and affection from either her mother or her father. She had major walls around her heart because of this. With any difficulty or stress between us, she would turn into what I thought of as the "Ice Queen" as a ego defensive mechanism. It's how she dealt with her parents when they showed anger, criticism, etc to her, when they weren't ignoring her.

A few months or so after living together, she had a dream where she saw this black and red caterpillar go into a cocoon and then emerge as this beautiful bright and deep blue and purple butterfly. I almost wept when she told me this dream, because I knew it symbolized that she was beginning to heal and that the walls around her heart were starting to come down.

(Ironically, we eventually became open, and just after I met another Soul from her half of Spirit aka another twin soul of mine, my partner had a dream about this woman where she was viewing this mottled, ugly black and brown caterpillar who for awhile was in just this raw and painful state, but eventually went into a cocoon and emerged as a beautiful white, hairy moth. We had all just met casually at a mutual friends party. There was barely any interaction between my partner and her. Anyways, this twin has just started on her healing process about a year and a quarter later).

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posted November 04, 2020 12:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Saggy7:
Hi angel,

I can understand how you feel. That is how I feel about finding someone and my previous relationships most of the time. There is always something.
And yes, even with "free will", it feels like my free will is not enough. Something can still happen that is completely out of my control that will make the rs not work.

So I feel like the whole "free will" thing doesn't cut it here, unfortunately. At least not for me.

I have been alone for a while now (it is a long time for me personally), zero dating (until just the other day), and it helped me get in touch with myself. I feel less frustrated and less impatient about finding a partner. It always remains a wish of mine deep down, but I am more accepting of it all, I am more at peace being alone (before I could never stay alone for too long), and I am trying to be more and more at peace about finding that someone, adopting the "whenever it happens" and "whatever is meant to be" kind of attitude.

Just recently I met someone (my first date in a long time), it took a lot for me to decide to do it, I was stuck in a rut of not wanting to try anything with anyone anymore...and even though I didn't get my hopes up in a way, the hopeless romantic in me is always I guess, hoping..and I just got feedback from todd that it looks just like a hookup situation. Lol

So there I am sorry if I am not being helpful here, I guess the whole purpose of me chiming in is to let you know that you are not alone. And again, the hopeless romantic in me would like to believe, that someday..somehow..it will happen


Hey, Saggy thanks so much for responding to my post! I'm glad to hear that you understand how I feel about love. It's like no matter how promising the charts look and how promising love indicators are there somehow...an obstacle has to come presently. . I've also given up free will too in a way but that hope that you talking about is exactly how I feel; that's my moon square Neptune that's talking. Dreaming about the happy fairytale ending and I know so many people around me who "claim" they have this with their husbands, just got kids, they live together, gave a great sex life, etc. It makes me feel like ****, to be honest not gonna lie because I'm a libra rising and mannnn partnerships are my LIFE! hahaha, and for bad luck to enter a Libra rising's love life is like DISASTER FOR US! LOL we crave romance and love so much.

What's your rising sign btw? Damn... sucks to hear that your date is going to turn out as a hookup but that's just Todd's humble opinion. I'm not trying to discredit him, by all means, he is very good at analyzing composites and synastry! I just hate to hear bad news when really it doesn't have to be that way because I do think that things could turn out well depending on who we're dealing with as far as relationships go.

I'm just like you, I've always for the majority of my life been single but I've also had plenty of relationships that have been long term with women only and short with men only. I identify myself as straight and I'm a newbie you can say, dating men and man...I FEEL MEN ARE COMPLICATED TO BE WITH I HAVE TO SAY COMPARED TO WOMEN, but women also have their issues (we do). Not trying to be sexist, just my fair experience so far... But then again I have a low tolerance for BS and most men have brought nothing but BS into my life.

Sometimes I look at straight couples who say they're happy and think.... hmmm... I don't know. Everyone has their own life paths there's no formula equation for everything it seems like.

Relationships are hard in general though that's what I hear all the time. You should go out more!! Download Bumble it's great! I'm sure you'll find lots of dates on there have fun when you're ready though. I've been there too I was single for a year and a half because of a toxic relationship I went through so I needed to rebuild my self-esteem. I feel you!

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posted November 04, 2020 02:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion:
Change yourself and your subconscious programming, and you can change your life.

With that said, we also come in with general life plans as set up by our Higher self in cahoots with Expanded Guidance which has the whole database of all information ever existed at it's tips for considering.

The purpose of entry into this dimension for most Souls is hoped for growth. We grow most from difficulty, challenge, stress, testing, much like a muscle lifting heavy weight and eventually becoming stronger because of that.

Anyways, once we master certain Soul lessons, then often outer conditions can and will change for us.

But I would suggest you getting to the root behind these patterns. It could be part of your life plan, but it could also just be part of limited subconscious programming that you are not conscious to enough. Often times such patterns stem from either a lack of self love/worth or fear of deeper intimacy (and behind that fear can be any number of deeper fears, such as fear of abandonment). In turn, these often come from childhood hurts and/or past life related dynamics.

Anyways, I suggest digging deeper into your psyche. Astrology doesn't cause anything to begin with, it only reflects, in a symbolic language, what is already there. It's a cosmic clock and road-map, not the actual cause.


Galactic Core Explosion Thank you for this! yes, I do need to dig deeper into my psyche. Speaking of psyche I'm definitely working with a therapist to attract better relationships into my life and change my behavior to make things healthier in my life. I absolutely agree with you in terms of soul growth, indeed!

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posted November 04, 2020 03:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
GalacticCoreExplosion

I found your post interesting to read. I can totally see the South Node in Pisces in the seventh house with all the experiences you've written. I'm sorry to hear about your experiences as well but it sounds to me based on what you wrote it looks like your relationships have a strong HEALING theme to them. Like the rescuer who attracts narcissist types and I can relate to that because I'm the same way! I had a ****** childhood where I was bullied and beat up by my neighbor (she was a psycho). Plus, my home environment was not the greatest and my siblings didn't make it easier either. But I don't want to blame people for what I went through, it just happened and that's life. I feel you though! I can totally relate to a period of just being on your own.. that's me right now. I've definitely had trippy dreams like what you were saying and I love butterfly dreams! Butterflies symbolize REBIRTH but in a good way because butterflies are born ugly but grow up to be super beautiful. I can also see your ex beginning to heal based on the dream.

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posted November 04, 2020 03:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm sorry to hear about that as well for you and your experiences.

I hope things change for the better and more positive.

Yes, the "new" twin soul person definitely has narcissistic tendencies/leanings in a borderline kind of feel/expression. Maybe not truly on the spectrum, which is why I say tendencies and leanings.

After I helped to start opening up her heart, she left me in the dust, went across the world to live with a "Tantra" Guru based cult, and now has found the "love of her life" who is a guru tantra cult leader wannabe sex addict. But he is good to her, calls her a Goddess (last thing she needs to hear), and they resonate with each other better.

I will say that I wished she picked someone a little deeper, and more authentically spiritual, but hey, she's just really started to open up her heart. I saw a FB post of his awhile back where he was quoting Einstein about frequency attracting things, and someone replied and said, "Does that mean that poor people just need to raise their vibration then?"

He said yes, based on my understanding/experience... SMH. Cause ya know, high vibration=material wealth and lack of material wealth=low vibration... (and just ignore that whole Yeshua [Jesus] guy completely). Never mind all the super wealthy people that are part of the military industrial complex that sell and promote war and weapons around the world and the billions in profit they make every year...

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posted November 04, 2020 05:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Never mind all the super wealthy people that are part of the military industrial complex that sell and promote war and weapons around the world and the billions in profit they make every year..." LMAO it's so true!

Thank you and yes I hope things do change for the better!!

I understand how you feel she abandoned you but everyone who leaves is doing us a favor. We shouldn't ever have to wait around for someone we thought loved us, it's the first step to healing and gaining self-worth in order to find the right person whose really going to value our worth. She failed to see that in you but it's a good thing she has her own path now to find others she vibrates on her level. Wannabe sex addict guru LMAO that's funny yeah there's a lot of those dudes no matter how guru they make themselves to be!

Poor people need to raise their vibration omggggg what a dumb thing to say man... lmao. there are tons of low vibrational ******** who are rich wealthy doesn't mean **** . lol!! just like what you were saying!!

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posted November 05, 2020 11:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Angel, and yes, agreed on all fronts.

Actually, after 7 months of completely ghosting me, she reached out to me to reconnect, but as it felt very one way yet again (me giving, her taking), I got quite angry and upset, and basically told her I didn't want anything to do with her for the rest of this life.

And for awhile (few months), I did a pretty good job in detaching from her. Until I had a dream about her, and then all the longing, missing, etc came back.

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posted November 07, 2020 12:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Saggy7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by angel4845:
Hey, Saggy thanks so much for responding to my post! I'm glad to hear that you understand how I feel about love. It's like no matter how promising the charts look and how promising love indicators are there somehow...an obstacle has to come presently. . I've also given up free will too in a way but that hope that you talking about is exactly how I feel; that's my moon square Neptune that's talking. Dreaming about the happy fairytale ending and I know so many people around me who "claim" they have this with their husbands, just got kids, they live together, gave a great sex life, etc. It makes me feel like ****, to be honest not gonna lie because I'm a libra rising and mannnn partnerships are my LIFE! hahaha, and for bad luck to enter a Libra rising's love life is like DISASTER FOR US! LOL we crave romance and love so much.

What's your rising sign btw? Damn... sucks to hear that your date is going to turn out as a hookup but that's just Todd's humble opinion. I'm not trying to discredit him, by all means, he is very good at analyzing composites and synastry! I just hate to hear bad news when really it doesn't have to be that way because I do think that things could turn out well depending on who we're dealing with as far as relationships go.

I'm just like you, I've always for the majority of my life been single but I've also had plenty of relationships that have been long term with women only and short with men only. I identify myself as straight and I'm a newbie you can say, dating men and man...I FEEL MEN ARE COMPLICATED TO BE WITH I HAVE TO SAY COMPARED TO WOMEN, but women also have their issues (we do). Not trying to be sexist, just my fair experience so far... But then again I have a low tolerance for BS and most men have brought nothing but BS into my life.

Sometimes I look at straight couples who say they're happy and think.... hmmm... I don't know. Everyone has their own life paths there's no formula equation for everything it seems like.

Relationships are hard in general though that's what I hear all the time. You should go out more!! Download Bumble it's great! I'm sure you'll find lots of dates on there have fun when you're ready though. I've been there too I was single for a year and a half because of a toxic relationship I went through so I needed to rebuild my self-esteem. I feel you!


Hey angel...I am a Scorpio rising lol...and I have a few other Scorpio placements..intensity is the word lol
Thank you for your advice, and yes, you are right, I should just let things play out on their own with this new guy...which I plan to do..because..you never know right?
And yesss, I have only dated men so I can't compare..but dealing with another woman like myself sometimes...man o man hahahha it would be tough.. so I think for me, men are a better choice still LOL!

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posted November 10, 2020 11:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Thanks Angel, and yes, agreed on all fronts.

Actually, after 7 months of completely ghosting me, she reached out to me to reconnect, but as it felt very one way yet again (me giving, her taking), I got quite angry and upset, and basically told her I didn't want anything to do with her for the rest of this life.

And for awhile (few months), I did a pretty good job in detaching from her. Until I had a dream about her, and then all the longing, missing, etc came back.


I feel you, it takes time to really move on from someone. Sometimes it takes years. It took me an entire year and a half to completely move on from one of my exes. It was difficult but worth the experience. Feelings are always gonna be there and they take time to move on but what's important is that you don't allow her to treat you the way she did, ghosting is never okay.

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posted November 10, 2020 11:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Hey angel...I am a Scorpio rising lol...and I have a few other Scorpio placements..intensity is the word lol
Thank you for your advice, and yes, you are right, I should just let things play out on their own with this new guy...which I plan to do..because..you never know right?
And yesss, I have only dated men so I can't compare..but dealing with another woman like myself sometimes...man o man hahahha it would be tough.. so I think for me, men are a better choice still LOL!


Intense is the word lol. Yeah scorpios can be intense but i've met a lot of venus in scorpios where there just in it for the sex and not so much about who the actual person is. awww i"m glad you think men are a better choice! I' ll have to look for the thread of your synastry and composite with this new guy.

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posted November 10, 2020 01:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Saggy7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Intense is the word lol. Yeah scorpios can be intense but i've met a lot of venus in scorpios where there just in it for the sex and not so much about who the actual person is. awww i"m glad you think men are a better choice! I' ll have to look for the thread of your synastry and composite with this new guy.


I have Venus in Cap lol
And please do... it's not too far down from yours..would love to hear your opinion

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