posted November 22, 2020 12:15 PM            

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Originally posted by Graham:

Saturn does the binding. ... The aspect indicates the ease or difficulty involved in doing so.

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posted November 22, 2020 01:12 PM              

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
So with the square and opposition, it makes it hard to bind?

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Think of a child whose natal Mercury aspects the Saturn of it's mother. ... The mother's astrological role is always to guide/mentor the child. ...If the aspect is a square or opposition, the child will perceive the mother as a harsh disciplinarian rather than a loving teacher - and that perception may result in their relationship breaking down. ... If the aspect is a sextile or trine, the child will perceive the mother as a loving teacher rather than a harsh disciplinarian - and that perception may result in their relationship never breaking down.

In reality ... it will not matter how harsh the mother's discipline actually is, because the aspect determines the child's perception of the Saturn behaviour. ... Thus two children raised in exactly the same way by their mother will perceive her treatment of them differently.

So ... the bond/bind is wholly dependent upon whether or not the child whose Mercury squares/opposes it's mother's Saturn becomes a mature adult who recognises that what was taught is more important than how it was taught.

However ... it is easier to resent (for a lifetime) the harsh treatment received from our mother/partner/employer than to recognise what we learned from it - and reflect objectively upon how our own behaviour contributed to them interacting with us in the way they did.

posted November 22, 2020 09:23 PM            

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Originally posted by efaki94:
I have my saturn opposite his stellium in virgo venus mars and mercury
And he has his saturn opposite my mercury
Semi square my mars and contraparallel my moon
We were really attracted to each other from the begging
And after two years we still are
But when we are bad we are really bad
When we are good we are excellent.

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posted November 22, 2020 10:45 PM              

Even flowing aspects with Saturn are not necessarily "easy". Part of the meaning of Saturn is that it represents that part of our Higher self that really seeks growth and karmic balance, and these rarely come easily or lightly.

One of the more generally "magnetic" Synastric aspects in general though, believe it or not, is Moon opposed Saturn. Here we have two opposites both in the Sign ruling sense, and in the Feminine-Masculine polarity sense, and then the opposition aspect itself which is about balance, relationship, and attraction--push pull dynamics.

posted November 22, 2020 10:55 PM            

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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion:
Really depends on the whole chart synastry more than anything. It's the overall forest, rather than an individual tree or two which determines how these will play out.

Even flowing aspects with Saturn are not necessarily "easy". Part of the meaning of Saturn is that it represents that part of our Higher self that really seeks growth and karmic balance, and these rarely come easily or lightly.

One of the more generally "magnetic" Synastric aspects in general though, believe it or not, is Moon opposed Saturn. Here we have two opposites both in the Sign ruling sense, and in the Feminine-Masculine polarity sense, and then the opposition aspect itself which is about balance, relationship, and attraction--push pull dynamics.

The combination of which indicates a peculiar and powerful kind of general attraction and bond often. But again, it is not a "light" nor "easy" kind of connection. There can be a parental type undertone to the connection, and at least, playing house and "mommy" and "daddy" together is a natural tendency. But can also be a "child" to "parent" type vibe or tendency also.

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posted November 24, 2020 10:00 AM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
I’ve seen Saturn harsh aspects in long-term relationships, so yes they can be binding even if it feels tough. You also need to see if there are other nice loving aspects between them.

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posted November 25, 2020 01:12 PM              

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
We do have some soft aspects but we have a lot of squares and oppositions. I really want to be with him though so I want it to work.

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Then ... MAKE it work.

For example. ... His Saturn squares your Sun. ... So there is a possibility that how you express yourself will make him feel insecure/uncomfortable. ... And, if so, he could attempt to stop you from expressing yourself naturally - by (say) being critical of the way you do so.

However ... how you then respond to that criticism determines whether the relationship thrives-or-survives.

If you become defensive - due to perceiving the problem as being yours rather than his - the relationship will eventually breakdown. ... But, if you recognise that the problem is related to some childhood experience/trauma of his (and compassionately explore that with him), the relationship will survive/become stronger.

posted November 26, 2020 10:46 AM            

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Originally posted by Graham:
Then ... [b]MAKE it work.

For example. ... His Saturn squares your Sun. ... So there is a possibility that how you express yourself will make him feel insecure/uncomfortable. ... And, if so, he could attempt to stop you from expressing yourself naturally - by (say) being critical of the way you do so.

However ... how you then respond to that criticism determines whether the relationship thrives-or-survives.

If you become defensive - due to perceiving the problem as being yours rather than his - the relationship will eventually breakdown. ... But, if you recognize that the problem is related to some childhood experience/trauma of his (and compassionately explore that with him), the relationship will survive/become stronger.

Thus ... although you cannot control how he interacts with you, you can control how you react to those interactions.[/B]

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posted December 26, 2022 08:53 AM            

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Originally posted by problematique:
any saturn aspect is binding, but they might make you feel disgusted with yourself or what you had to put up with.

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Applies to them all? Neptune, def Pluto, Chiron is a shocker, Uranus.. gohddd..

Recognising the point where it's time to get out is always in hindsight .

posted December 26, 2022 05:36 PM            

I have never seen venus opposite saturn in long term * married couples synastry charts
Oh sorry Queen Elizabeth and Prince Philip synastry has it...

I have seen sun opposıte saturn, mercury sqaure saturn and even venus square saturn long term married couples synastry charts but they also have more than a dozen of aspects great for compatibility... even so harsh saturn aspects are never easy to deal with it...

I am a quadro capricorn and saturn is opposing them... I can deal with saturn in harsh aspects but do I want to ? No.

My bestie * 35 year old friendship - her saturn is opposing my sun and mercury.

But we have venus trine saturn as well. And more than a dozen of supportive aspects between personal planets and points...

I love her so much but I am aware of what her Saturn does to me and sometimes I just want to go to a place far away from her restrictive influence to find myself - at this age...
On the other hand, she is my rock...
I am pretty sure it is not the harsh Saturn aspects that glued us..

venus trine saturn, moon trine saturn, a lot of moon, venus, mars. jupiter positive aspects have helped us to build a friendship for life...