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Topic: Synastry Chart Break-up Help! @Stoika
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Reggie
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From: New York
Registered: Dec 2020
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posted December 05, 2020 07:42 AM
  
Were together for 5 years and since the beginning of 2020 we had some rifts and we are on a break (since June) and wondering if we will get back together
again soon or this the end? http://imgbox.com/TzH0xx0g# Please help
Heartbroken,
Reggie
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Stoika7
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From: Rome, Italy
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posted December 05, 2020 02:36 PM
Hi Reggie, sorry you're going through this... the synastry looks very binding, even though the Saturn/Jupiter square Moon can be an harsh aspect emotionally... and Chiron opposite Juno and square Mars is a tough one, it can bring a lot of frustration and resentment/criticism, the red person could blame the blue person for whatever going wrong between them or their common plans or daily issues, or the mars person could feel very frustrated for not seeing their expectations work out... triggering their deep wounds about settling or accomplishments in life... this can be an aspect damaging the harmony between them... please post a Composite chart to see how things are developing 💙 IP: Logged |
Reggie
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From: New York
Registered: Dec 2020
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posted December 06, 2020 09:06 AM
Hi StoikaThank you sooo much for responding. I'm the Blue (Leo) Person and she is the Red (Virgo). You hit it on the nail as at the beginning of the year she blamed me for stunting her professional growth and for not accomplishing things in her life. Who is the Mars person Red or Blue?... I have posted the Composite. Please let me know what you think. We are currently not communicating it has been 5 months since I have seen her... www.imgbox.com/tTAkHGSj Composite Chart is here: https://imgbox.com/tTAkHGSj Thank you! IP: Logged |
Stoika7
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From: Rome, Italy
Registered: Mar 2019
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posted December 06, 2020 05:47 PM
Her Mars, it is conjunct her North Node, conjunct to your Sun, so Chiron here is felt by her as actually blocking her life path for some reason, likely unconscious, and this hugely triggers your self-worth as well in turn since your Chiron is in 2nd house square your Sun... since your Sun is also square Uranus, this dynamic with her could hit your wound about getting self-reliant, which she might also blame you about ...?The Composite is very fated, Vertex is conjunct Sun/Mars, Saturn/North Node midpoint is conjunct Venus square to Neptune. Maybe it was love at first sight. There could be a strong fated feeling between you two, maybe an artistic connection or a common humanitarian/spiritual/social activity... Neptune square Venus/North Node can give also a very unclear trait to the relationship though, as if they feel they go adrift together, instead of travelling towards a common goals... This can be binding at creative and spiritual level, but it can be divisive on a more earthly plane, if you need to set direction and goals, this is quite unfavourable and may be the reason linked to the issues posed by Chiron aspects in synastry...
Jupiter/Juno midpoint is conjunct Saturn, and Juno conjunct MC, so you likely strongly expected this to be long term and even envisioned you two getting married, but the Neptune aspects to North Node Venus and Vertex conjunct Sun/Mars may suggest that the effects of Juno aspects are in reality more complicated to achieve.
The Moon is square the Chiron/Uranus opposition and Uranus is square Sun/Mars, the emotional sphere is in distress here, quite unstable, and it is Uranus which may arise conflicts, coldness, emotional distance, while Chiron may suggest that there are basic differences making things unstable on the earthly and emotional plane. This is quite heartbreaking cause Sun/Moon midpoint is conjunct Vesta sextile Pluto/Juno, which is your glue, and Sun is conjunct Mars, so the feelings for each other are intense and there is a very lively side which you expected to work out... Pluto conjunct Juno is also very hard to let go, you may feel your bond is unbreakable against all difficulties.
Npetune in 12th house square North Node/Venus though may overcome the strenght of the bond making such achievement of unity unattainable, which may be what one can't accept. Transiting Mercury is currently square to Saturn, but it will be trine to MC in short so it's possible you may have a contact, maybe next week.
The nodal transit is square Composite Nodes, and transiting Saturn/Jupiter are opposite to the Pallas/Jupiter midpoint, so I would warn you that this could be a definitive separation, as tr. Saturn will be opposite Jupiter and tr. Jupiter will be square to Uranus in January, with the transiting South Node conjunct Neptune. Sorry for not seeing much better developments at this time. 💙 IP: Logged |
Reggie
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From: New York
Registered: Dec 2020
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posted December 07, 2020 07:40 AM
Thank You Stoika! it feels better to know if it is good or bad. Also good to know she has similar feelings...I appreciate all your efforts. But 1 question. does the Composite chart change over time?
So in the composite chart, current planetary alignments are keeping us apart. Will this change over time? Anything I can do to favor this towards meIP: Logged |
Stoika7
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From: Rome, Italy
Registered: Mar 2019
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posted December 07, 2020 02:18 PM
You are so welcome 💙The Composite shows the basic "structure" of your relationship, so this is not going to change. What changes is the transits to the Composite so based on transits you have some aspects "activated" for some time, and others activated in different times... then one can look at the progressed composite too, and that is where the dynamic slowly changes... so currently you have transiting nodes square to the nodes with South Node going towards Neptune, nodal transits to nodes always show a significat step, positive or negative, according to the composite nodal aspects and other transits... The Neptune/Nodes square is usually an aspects of great uncertainty and South Node/Neptune is usually a "letting go" aspect, with also Jupiter/Saturn in Capricorn opposite Pallas/Jupiter and heading to composite Jupiter in one month, it suggests "cleaning the past" and leaving the past behind... 💙 IP: Logged |
Reggie
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From: New York
Registered: Dec 2020
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posted December 07, 2020 04:26 PM
Hello, Again @Stoika do you mind looking at this progressed composite and see if it tells anything different? I also pulled a collision Chart from positiveastrology.com based on Paul Westran's studies it shows a Progressed Venus to Natal Sun Trine starting in 2021 and peeking in 2023 what does this mean?Progressed Composite: http://imgbox.com/VE0YQ5J6 Venus Collision Trine: http://imgbox.com/LxejM0LR IP: Logged |
Stoika7
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posted December 07, 2020 08:22 PM
In the Progressed chart, the Moon has just entered first house and it's square to the IC/MC axis, and Jupiter is square to the Venus/Uranus midpoint with Uranus being the chart ruler... this would show your separation at this moment. Sun is unaspected even though it's conjunct to the North Node-Mars/Pluto midpoint... this suggests there are still feelings, even though Mars/North Node is square Neptune, so again great uncertainty and likely the two are trying to get distracted/detach from the relationship in order to move on...The Progressed Venus trine to Natal Sun peeking in 2023 could suggest that potentially the loving feelings is getting more intense, but then just this aspect wouldn't mean anything if you're not together anymore... I mean that it is not enough as an aspects to foresee you two being back together in a close future... IP: Logged |
Hikaru29
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From: Asia
Registered: Nov 2018
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posted December 12, 2020 10:51 PM
In progression what you should first check is what progressed Moon is doing. Your pMoon was squaring Uranus and opposing your composite Leo stellium some months back. This shows tension period and could have caused the separation. The aspects have separated but when Moon goes into Pisces, it will square Neptune and this again can be separative...plus tSaturn is also moving towards an opposition in the next 2yrs. These are unfavourable for you, sorry.IP: Logged |
Reggie
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From: New York
Registered: Dec 2020
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posted December 13, 2020 10:31 AM
Thank you Hikaru29 I guess my case is a hopeless one and I just need to move on and find another partner  IP: Logged |
Hikaru29
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From: Asia
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posted December 13, 2020 12:50 PM
June till now is a long break IMO, so if you wanna reconcile you should act fast. Astrology is just a guide. 👌IP: Logged |
Reggie
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From: New York
Registered: Dec 2020
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posted December 13, 2020 02:13 PM
Hi Hikaru29 I tried to reconcile in August. She said she needed space and then she reached out to me in September wanting to meet up and hang out but canceled last minute. I tried again in October she flaked again. I know she is going through a lot due to COVID her Job cut her pay, her roommate left, etc...so I didn't push too much. IP: Logged |
anska5
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posted December 13, 2020 03:40 PM
if you do want to, at least Christmas and the New Year gives you the perfect excuse to reach out one last time. IP: Logged |
Hikaru29
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From: Asia
Registered: Nov 2018
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posted December 14, 2020 02:34 AM
^ Agree with anska5 above. How about sending her a nice festive greeting message or maybe mail her a thoughtful card/gift? And then leave her be...see if she initiates a meeting. At least you tried one last time.IP: Logged |
Reggie
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From: New York
Registered: Dec 2020
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posted December 14, 2020 11:03 AM
Thank you both @anska5 and @Hikaru29. Guess one last contact will not hurt and leave it be after that. IP: Logged |
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