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SoulOfABird
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posted December 06, 2020 03:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SoulOfABird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi (: so I have a question on synastry that I dont believe Ive seen being asked on here before.
There's this guy I really like a lot. In the past Ive asked about our synastry on here, and most people said it was very intense but overall good (very strongly plutonian and venusian). That was over a year ago. I havent met him, and I was supposed however due to corona virus and all that didn't happen.

So some other girl I know has come along, and apparently she wants to show interest in him too. We literally were only born 4 days apart, so her synastry with him is practically the same and maybe better according to online synastry calculators. We're both Pisces, she's a Sag moon (8th house), Im an Aquarius moon (12th house). And the guy is a Sag sun Pisces moon. So her having his sun/moon inverse is definitely an advantage over me.
I couldnt help but feel a little worried. If we both met him, would he like her over me?

Ive come to like him a lot. There's something about him, it's like I know some things about him but I want to know more. I can sense his style in love is just what I want in a guy, and something about him makes me want to mend any wounds he may have. I feel he is vulnerable but doesnt show it and I can only wish to get to know him more and be there for him. Weird I realize, also I realize my constant daydreaming of what could be doesn't help when reality comes hitting me like a ton of bricks.

I know nothing is written in stone, but this girl probably has a better chance than me.
It's so strange though because although we have a very similar chart we are so different.
She's very talkative and opens up right away. I on the other hand take a lot of time to get to know, and Im not as bubbly and energetic as her. She draws more attention to herself, while I stay in the background.

Now only advantage I have in synastry with him is my moon in his 5th house, and his moon in my 1st house.

Also her ascendent(Taurus) is opposite his venus (Scorpio). My ascendent is parallel his venus and moon. So apparently that is a good sign I fit his "type" but Im not sure how legit parallels really are, and her ascendent makes a real opposite to his venus.

Also my Aquarius ascendent is conjunct his eros and valentine. Only advantages I might "possibly" have. He's very concerned with appearance in girls so I would assume physical attraction is important to get his attention.

I realize it's not healthy for me to compare myself to her. But I just would like some peace of mind.

Is there any advantage in my ascendent conjunct his valentine and eros plus parallel his moon and venus? Or because her synastry might be better I dont have much of a chance. Has anyone else every faced this problem?

I just want to keep myself from getting hurt and let down. Ive already gotten quite attached and I find rejection hard for me.
There was a time where I thought I was over him, but nope, Im back again. So before I get more attached I need to know if I just let it go

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efaki94
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posted December 06, 2020 06:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for efaki94     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello soulofbird
I totally feel you
I keep comparing my synastry with my bf
With other girls
Even if I know it's not healthy

Could you post both of synastriesand composite?
In this case when you have so similar chart with her
Your ascedant and the house placement will make the difference.

In my opinion venus parallel ascendant
Seems more powerful than venus in 7th.
My sister fell for a boy who has his venus in her 7th but he wasn't into her at all.
There aren't rules but I'm my experience
Venus parallel or conjuct ascedant seems much more sexier.

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SoulOfABird
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posted December 06, 2020 07:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SoulOfABird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by efaki94:
Hello soulofbird
I totally feel you
I keep comparing my synastry with my bf
With other girls
Even if I know it's not healthy

Could you post both of synastriesand composite?
In this case when you have so similar chart with her
Your ascedant and the house placement will make the difference.

In my opinion venus parallel ascendant
Seems more powerful than venus in 7th.
My sister fell for a boy who has his venus in her 7th but he wasn't into her at all.
There aren't rules but I'm my experience
Venus parallel or conjuct ascedant seems much more sexier.


Thank goodness Im not the only one who does that! I thought I was weird for being this way lol

Yes I'll post the synastry and composite. Although looking at his and her composite, it's probably better.

Mine and his synastry/composite


Her and his synastry/composite

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anska5
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posted December 06, 2020 07:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anska5     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@SoulofBirds
If I understand correctly, you haven't even met him in real life? So no matter how great your synastry with him is - on paper - there is no way of knowing whether it would even be activated in real life. You might hate his voice or the way he looks. Much less whether the synastry with the other girl would be activated. I have had fantastic synastry with someone I worked with for 10 years (his venus conjunct my mars, my mars conjunct venus, my mars conjunct his sun and ascendant, his moon conjunct my sun, 7th house and 8th houses activated).....and absolutely ZERO sexual or romantic attraction for both of us. We worked extremely well with each other and are still friends, but just no attraction whatsover. I also remember some of my female colleagues raving about this really hot manager. I hadnt met him at this point, but we got on extremely well in emails and he looked great in a photo...but when we met...just zilch attraction..quite frankly just hearing his voice was a turn off for some reason. Equally, I knew two men, both born the EXACT same day and year - one I have become borderline obsessed with, the other I find asexual and couldnt care less about..so go figure. So my point being, I completely get how you can start worrying about some other other woman that may be competition, but if you don't even know yet whether YOU DO really react to the guy in real life, it's a lot of hypotheticals to worry about unnecessarily.

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SoulOfABird
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posted December 06, 2020 07:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SoulOfABird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by anska5:
@SoulofBirds
If I understand correctly, you haven't even met him in real life? So no matter how great your synastry with him is - on paper - there is no way of knowing whether it would even be activated in real life. You might hate his voice or the way he looks. Much less whether the synastry with the other girl would be activated. I have had fantastic synastry with someone I worked with for 10 years (his venus conjunct my mars, my mars conjunct venus, my mars conjunct his sun and ascendant, his moon conjunct my sun, 7th house and 8th houses activated).....and absolutely ZERO sexual or romantic attraction for both of us. We worked extremely well with each other and are still friends, but just no attraction whatsover. I also remember some of my female colleagues raving about this really hot manager. I hadnt met him at this point, but we got on extremely well in emails and he looked great in a photo...but when we met...just zilch attraction..quite frankly just hearing his voice was a turn off for some reason. Equally, I knew two men, both born the EXACT same day and year - one I have become borderline obsessed with, the other I find asexual and couldnt care less about..so go figure. So my point being, I completely get how you can start worrying about some other other woman that may be competition, but if you don't even know yet whether YOU DO really react to the guy in real life, it's a lot of hypotheticals to worry about unnecessarily.

Wow that's interesting. Thanks for explaining your experience! I have a question though, those two guys born the same day, was the one you were attracted to more your type? The other one not? At least physically? I tend to know of some guys I should also have amazing chemistry with but Im not really romantically attracted to. But physically they arent really my type. So I wonder if physical appearance plays a big part in it.

The situation is a bit complicated, he's a musician so he writes and produces music. Ive seen how he acts and speaks and how he looks for the most part through instagram. I do find him attractive. But I do get what you're saying about me not possibly liking him in real life. Ive been more worried about how he'd feel about me since I have no clue how he'd feel about me but I can only know how I feel about him, at least in the moment.

I guess it might just be more of a fantasy for me, I may just see him through rose tinted glasses.
I have a tendency to worry about silly things like this lol I guess I really want to see the potential and find someone I feel I could connect with I suppose. But on paper it might be different.

It doesn't help that lately I keep seeing his birth time so often ? Like what, god got me out here thinking it's a sign or something. Like what is this sorcery? lol It's weird I kid you not Im not making it up, just the other day I was sad finding out about this girl and their synastry, and just as that happened my phone just lit up for no reason and it said 1:28 which is his birthtime, and that's crazy to me. I dont know why I keep seeing that number. But who knows because Ive been seeing 1111 and 111 a lot too. So it's my stupid Pisces venus acting up again lol


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Sauerkraut
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posted December 06, 2020 08:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sauerkraut     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by anska5:
@SoulofBirds
If I understand correctly, you haven't even met him in real life? So no matter how great your synastry with him is - on paper - there is no way of knowing whether it would even be activated in real life. You might hate his voice or the way he looks. Much less whether the synastry with the other girl would be activated. I have had fantastic synastry with someone I worked with for 10 years (his venus conjunct my mars, my mars conjunct venus, my mars conjunct his sun and ascendant, his moon conjunct my sun, 7th house and 8th houses activated).....and absolutely ZERO sexual or romantic attraction for both of us. We worked extremely well with each other and are still friends, but just no attraction whatsover. I also remember some of my female colleagues raving about this really hot manager. I hadnt met him at this point, but we got on extremely well in emails and he looked great in a photo...but when we met...just zilch attraction..quite frankly just hearing his voice was a turn off for some reason. Equally, I knew two men, both born the EXACT same day and year - one I have become borderline obsessed with, the other I find asexual and couldnt care less about..so go figure. So my point being, I completely get how you can start worrying about some other other woman that may be competition, but if you don't even know yet whether YOU DO really react to the guy in real life, it's a lot of hypotheticals to worry about unnecessarily.

i completely agree with this. reality and theory are often very different. its a waste of energy and perhaps even dangerous to get carried away in hypotheticals before checking things out in flesh. even then, things take time to unfold. ive met enough people from the internet to know how different they are in real life, whether it is my projection or if they are actually portraying something different. even people ive met in flesh turn into something else, good or bad. astrology helps us understand some dynamics after connection is established but attraction is complicated. it evolves while we evolve. its not static, especially for me anyway. ive also seen charts where i should be attracted and i am not attracted at all.

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anska5
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posted December 06, 2020 08:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anska5     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by SoulOfABird:
[B] Wow that's interesting. Thanks for explaining your experience! I have a question though, those two guys born the same day, was the one you were attracted to more your type? The other one not? At least physically? I tend to know of some guys I should also have amazing chemistry with but Im not really romantically attracted to. But physically they arent really my type. So I wonder if physical appearance plays a big part in it.

The situation is a bit complicated, he's a musician so he writes and produces music. Ive seen how he acts and speaks and how he looks for the most part through instagram. I do find him attractive. But I do get what you're saying about me not possibly liking him in real life. Ive been more worried about how he'd feel about me since I have no clue how he'd feel about me but I can only know how I feel about him, at least in the moment.

I


Physically BOTH of them weren't my type at all. In fact the one I ended up becoming quite obsessed with we both mentioned to each other, that we both weren't on each other's radar at all initially. I honestly think it had something to do with pheromones because the attraction only started after we sat next to each other on the bus (i.e. I guess were close enough to probably smell those pheromones). I'm convinced of that because I have no other explanation. The physical attraction then turned out to be stronger than anything I've ever felt before...even though just based on looks I would have never imagined that and had just ruled him out completely. So again lots of layers and just seeing someone from far away means very little whether there will or won't be a pull between you. And with the guy you are mentioning here there seems to be a lot of idealisation going on which can really backfire when you really DO meet eventually. During my time at University I had a huge crush on what I still think is the most beautiful man I've ever seen. I saw him in class and on campus, so close enough to get the illusion of knowing him but too far to really know him. And of course then you see all these coincidences which make it seem like it's a fated connection. Long story short years later we actually did meet and he even invited me for coffee...and it was the biggest car crash of a date you can imagine. Having put him on this pedestal for years(with my saturn in 1st house like you of course always doubting that he could possibly be interested in me in turn), I was so inhibited the conversation was so stilted, even if we may have had a connection, that didnt stand a chance under those circumstances. Anyway, I'm only telling you these stories to encourage you to meet this person in person 1:1 as soon as Corona makes this possible. Having had such an idealisation myself in my 20s, it can save you a lot of wasted time longing for someone that seems meant to be, but that you may not really connect with in real life. That guy from University I still think is so so beautiful, but we didnt connect when we really met and that was partly surely because of my pent up expectation, but certainly also because there wasnt any real chemistry there.

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posted December 06, 2020 12:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sinder     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
okay but can someone tell me since the moon is out of orb is it still valid in this case? I am curious.

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softissues
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posted December 06, 2020 04:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for softissues     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh my, I am so glad I wasn't the only one. I used to compare my ex's chart with his ex (for research purposes loool) but I completely get you. You are not alone. We all are a lil bit crazy but it is what it is. Also fellow Aqua rising hereeee.

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SoulOfABird
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posted December 07, 2020 05:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SoulOfABird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by anska5:
Physically BOTH of them weren't my type at all. In fact the one I ended up becoming quite obsessed with we both mentioned to each other, that we both weren't on each other's radar at all initially. I honestly think it had something to do with pheromones because the attraction only started after we sat next to each other on the bus (i.e. I guess were close enough to probably smell those pheromones). I'm convinced of that because I have no other explanation. The physical attraction then turned out to be stronger than anything I've ever felt before...even though just based on looks I would have never imagined that and had just ruled him out completely. So again lots of layers and just seeing someone from far away means very little whether there will or won't be a pull between you. And with the guy you are mentioning here there seems to be a lot of idealisation going on which can really backfire when you really DO meet eventually. During my time at University I had a huge crush on what I still think is the most beautiful man I've ever seen. I saw him in class and on campus, so close enough to get the illusion of knowing him but too far to really know him. And of course then you see all these coincidences which make it seem like it's a fated connection. Long story short years later we actually did meet and he even invited me for coffee...and it was the biggest car crash of a date you can imagine. Having put him on this pedestal for years(with my saturn in 1st house like you of course always doubting that he could possibly be interested in me in turn), I was so inhibited the conversation was so stilted, even if we may have had a connection, that didnt stand a chance under those circumstances. Anyway, I'm only telling you these stories to encourage you to meet this person in person 1:1 as soon as Corona makes this possible. Having had such an idealisation myself in my 20s, it can save you a lot of wasted time longing for someone that seems meant to be, but that you may not really connect with in real life. That guy from University I still think is so so beautiful, but we didnt connect when we really met and that was partly surely because of my pent up expectation, but certainly also because there wasnt any real chemistry there.

That's really good advice thank you for your stories. I love hearing real life scenarios on these things, it's really helpful. Saturn in the 1st house can be a real pain to your self esteem.
I hope I can meet him one day and see how it goes!

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SoulOfABird
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posted December 07, 2020 05:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SoulOfABird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by softissues:
Oh my, I am so glad I wasn't the only one. I used to compare my ex's chart with his ex (for research purposes loool) but I completely get you. You are not alone. We all are a lil bit crazy but it is what it is. Also fellow Aqua rising hereeee.

Omg yay! lol Im glad. Honestly I can imagine how hard it must be comparing yourself to your boyfriend's exes haha the way I see it, in those cases at least you got him and your his object of affection! But really Id probably have the same issue if I ever got into a relationship. It's like an endless cycle

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Hikaru29
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posted December 07, 2020 07:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, this kinda comparison is really unhealthy and will just cause you stress. When I got to know my guy, there was another gal who was also hitting on him and being hostile towards me. She was born one day after me so we have plenty of similar planets. I just didn’t know her rising and moon sign. I kept thinking why wouldn’t he be attracted to her as well? He must be! It really messed up my emotions because he seemed flirty with her. But later on he told me that he didn’t feel real attraction towards her. They flirted slightly but that was it. That gal was also flirting with several other men besides him.

Also the other thing which is similar to what anska5 has mentioned. Charts are just charts. They don’t mean anything if nothing in real life is established. I’ve seen a better Synastry between my guy and a mutual friend of ours (not the same gal I mentioned above) but nothing ever happened between them. He chased me rather than her even though they knew each other first.

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