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Topic: Synastry reading for @Stoika7
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ToughPrincessa1997
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posted December 06, 2020 01:39 PM
  
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Stoika7
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posted December 06, 2020 04:39 PM
Hi Princessa, sorry I have missed the thread!I think there are elements for long terms or marriage, casue of the North Node/Juno conjunct MC/ASC, opposite his Moon/Jupiter/DSC conjunct your IC and trine your Saturn, his Venus is also conjunct your North Node so a destiny is felt in your relationship, even though there are other aspects suggesting that the relationship could be psychologically stressing cause of His Pluto conjunct your Chiron opposite Mercury and square Neptune, this is an aspect that could trigger strong self-worth issues of yours at subconscious level. Your Moon looks unaspected but your Moon/Pluto midpoint seems to be conjunct to his Moon, this could be emotionally very binding even though it's square your ASC/Mars so again it looks like giving you insecurities and questioning, does this resonate somehow?
I would like to check the Composite cause there could be some instability given by this potential distress. IP: Logged |
ToughPrincessa1997
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posted December 06, 2020 05:29 PM
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Stoika7
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posted December 06, 2020 06:34 PM
Lovely, there could be something fated hindering this relationship, or cirumstances that give you a lot of doubts and questioning, cause of the Saturn/Neptune midpoint conjunct Jupiter and opposite Venus in 12th house, with Neptune/Jupiter being square to MC. There is something very unclear here and you sense it. Eris conjunct MC opposite Nessus/Psyche midpoint and square Venus/Neptune opposition may give the feeling of an abusive trait and/or some kind of addiction involved or cultural differences that may be received as unacceptable or distressing by one of the two people. This could be something unclear which you may even ignore but have negative feelings about. Moreover, Chiron is opposite Sun/Mercury and square Pluto. This also looks stressful and controlling as both or one of the two people tries to dominate the other aor impose their will and have the control on the situation. Pluto trine Venus sextile Mars may suggest that there's still a strong chemistry between them, so maybe those aspects are not utterly abusive but they can still give discomfort. Juno square Cupid and opposite Pluto also suggests that their bond is strong but this especially gives a strong sexual trait to their union.
MC square the Venus/Jupiter-Neptune opposition suggests that despite the long term expectations, the future of the relationship is very unclear and you may not be convinced of your committment, alternatively there could be a very free lover side to the relationship which will never give a clear direction...
South Node is conjunct Sun/Mercury, so there could be a soulmate feeling but also a challenging side that may hinder taking off the ground or a long term stability.Let me know what you think about all this, 'cause it's a very particular chart and not easy to interpret, but I mainly see something challenging this union, a distressing side, and a lot of doubts, maybe trust issues or just strong uncertainty that this is what you want. IP: Logged |
ToughPrincessa1997
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posted December 07, 2020 06:28 AM
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Originally posted by Stoika7:
Lovely, there could be something fated hindering this relationship, or cirumstances that give you a lot of doubts and questioning, cause of the Saturn/Neptune midpoint conjunct Jupiter and opposite Venus in 12th house, with Neptune/Jupiter being square to MC. There is something very unclear here and you sense it. Eris conjunct MC opposite Nessus/Psyche midpoint and square Venus/Neptune opposition may give the feeling of an abusive trait and/or some kind of addiction involved or cultural differences that may be received as unacceptable or distressing by one of the two people. This could be something unclear which you may even ignore but have negative feelings about. Moreover, Chiron is opposite Sun/Mercury and square Pluto. This also looks stressful and controlling as both or one of the two people tries to dominate the other aor impose their will and have the control on the situation. Pluto trine Venus sextile Mars may suggest that there's still a strong chemistry between them, so maybe those aspects are not utterly abusive but they can still give discomfort. Juno square Cupid and opposite Pluto also suggests that their bond is strong but this especially gives a strong sexual trait to their union.
MC square the Venus/Jupiter-Neptune opposition suggests that despite the long term expectations, the future of the relationship is very unclear and you may not be convinced of your committment, alternatively there could be a very free lover side to the relationship which will never give a clear direction...
South Node is conjunct Sun/Mercury, so there could be a soulmate feeling but also a challenging side that may hinder taking off the ground or a long term stability.Let me know what you think about all this, 'cause it's a very particular chart and not easy to interpret, but I mainly see something challenging this union, a distressing side, and a lot of doubts, maybe trust issues or just strong uncertainty that this is what you want.
Stoika firstly thank you for the reading even tough this was very unsettling and depressing to hear. Todd gave me a similar analysis altough he said that he can not give me a clear opinion because of such dofferent energies within the chart, so both of you said the chart is very difficult and rare. I agree because this relationship is really sometjing I have never experienced before. Love is very strong yet sometimes very unsettling and emotionaly like a rolercoster.
You were right of me having a bad sense about something but I dont know what it is at this moment. Always had feeling he was not being 100% honest, maybe this is a result of my venus sun and merc in his 12th which is not easy at all. On the addiction theme he did tell me about his past addictions and had been honest about that, I chose to except his past. With the cultural differences it is maybe because we have 14 year gap, he is older than me. He is defenetly controlling and possesive as am I as well we both have trust issues and uneasy feelimg about this.
The relationship started with a bang and we have been together for 8 months ever since. Strong sexual attraction I think this is binding us trenedously if it hadnt been for the intimacy I dont think we could of made it this far. Commitement was promised to me by him from the very begining, and firstly the relationship was great altough still very heavy in some ways. I am indeed questioning if this is it, since we do talk about children and moving in together this is quite scary for me as I want to be sure that he is the right one for me. We do want a child strongly togerher, and currently we are not trying but not preventing eather.
The last month has been extremly difficult for us we had alot of emotional fights, crying sessions and soul oppenings which are not easy at all.. I do not currently know what the future will bring but I have a feeling he will be present in my life for the long haul, I Just hope we can deal with these intense emotions and past trauma which have been brought up by us being together. This relationship is currently quite heavy but the love we have is very strong, which makes it difficult for eather of us to think rationally.. IP: Logged |
Stoika7
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posted December 07, 2020 03:45 PM
I am so sorry it is so unsettling... yes how you describe the relationship matches with my feelings about the chart, even though I don't have a clear context and it's difficult to understand how this all can play out...
I see that it is very binding especially according the synsatry aspects with the axis conjunction, the nodal aspects and Chiron contacts to Pluto... so there is a core bond at very deep level, and other aspects that are very unstable, so the outcome is that "rollercoaster"...
He has Saturn square to IC/MC, this could suggest he has an harsh background and family environment, with his Moon attached to your IC you're likely replacing his family at emotional level. but his South Node is also here attached to your Pluto/Moon midpoint, this is sign that you want to nurture him emotionally, but South Node is also emotionally draining and your Mars is square to this conjunction involving also his Jupiter, so there are selfish and self-defensive attitudes too.
Composite Neptune/Saturn midpoint conjunct Jupiter square MC and opposite Venus looks more divisive than uniting though, and giving trust issues and great uncertainties for long term, even though North Node in Leo could suggest the possibility of a child, if you feel such uncertainty for the future I would suggest to ponder carefully as this uncertain vibe is clear in the chart...
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Stoika7
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posted December 07, 2020 04:04 PM
PS: looking at transits, you're having transiting south node on composite Vertex in 5th house and square Mars, and transiting Saturn/Jupiter conjunct comp Saturn, this may give a sort of urgency to settle down things, empower your relationship, so this may have to do with your expectation/plan of a child, even though I need to warn you about the coming transits with Saturn going to be conjunct to Sun/Mercury/South Node and square Pluto, this is a dangerous transit cause Saturn/South Node is usually a parting ways aspect and with this also attached to Sun which is the chart ruler, and square Pluto, things look quite challenging, so I'd feel to advice you about this transit and suggest to wait until next spring before making big future plans. IP: Logged |
ToughPrincessa1997
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posted December 07, 2020 05:00 PM
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Originally posted by Stoika7:
PS: looking at transits, you're having transiting south node on composite Vertex in 5th house and square Mars, and transiting Saturn/Jupiter conjunct comp Saturn, this may give a sort of urgency to settle down things, empower your relationship, so this may have to do with your expectation/plan of a child, even though I need to warn you about the coming transits with Saturn going to be conjunct to Sun/Mercury/South Node and square Pluto, this is a dangerous transit cause Saturn/South Node is usually a parting ways aspect and with this also attached to Sun which is the chart ruler, and square Pluto, things look quite challenging, so I'd feel to advice you about this transit and suggest to wait until next spring before making big future plans.
Stoika, thank you! We will see what will happen, we will see if we can get trough this, I hope so!IP: Logged |
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LunaIscariot
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posted March 27, 2021 07:15 AM
Ok, so to answer your question, a lack of moon aspects in the composite chart isn’t always a dealbreaker, if the moon makes NO major aspects to any planets (which is very rare!) that is a major issue in the relationship though, because it shows that the emotional component isn’t being integrated (aspects) into the relationship, basically this shows emotional distance, isolation and total lack of intimacy etc. In the previous post, they had only one aspect to the moon and it happened to be a very bad one, without any other positive aspects to compensate, So that’s why it was such an issue for them given the nature of moon square Saturn.
Looking at a chart, you have to take EVERYTHING into account, it’s never just one thing like “moon doesn’t make much aspects so it always means blank etc.” You on the other hand, you also only have one aspect to composite moon, which isn’t “ideal” per say for the best relationships, BUT it’s not as bad, because it’s moon square mars. This isn’t an aspect of emotional alienation like Saturn. It also helps that mars is a personal planet, compared to Saturn being an outer planet and therefore less of a major player in the relationship. Moon and mars are actually similar in that they are both instinctual and reactive, and this aspect actually shows that the emotional connect between you two is felt in a more visceral and instinctive way and passionate (mars) too, so there’s definite emotional involvement being felt between you and in a strong way too. But it’s still a hard aspect with a malefic and more negative than positive.
This aspect means the feelings tend to get hurt easily, especially for the women (you). Overreacting is also very likely, so is the feelings of frustration, impatience and annoyance/irritation. You work each other up easily for good or bad. At first it tends to feel like passion and lusty/sexual feelings, but overtime more of the negative feelings start to manifest, especially after the first couple months or years together when couples are high off infatuation and all the hormones that come with it.
Composites tend to show up more with time, so if you haven’t noticed any of this yet, don’t be surprised and be prepared for it to in the future. It’s something to be aware of. It can be an emotionally (moon) abusive (mars) or draining/toxic element in the connection.
It also can show that the feelings between you are mostly sexually based in nature, so passion, lust, excitement type feelings are the themes etc., rather than true affection/care/intimacy/bonding etc.
Although, looking at the Synastry will add clarity to see how likely that is to come to pass. So inside person (you) with the Capricorn moon, (I wish you didn’t cut the aspect grid out so I could see degrees) it looks like but hard to tell forsure, your moon is trine their sun/‘mercury and conjunct Neptune, all nice aspects! So yes, you don’t feel emotionally alienated etc.
Especially since his moon is tightly on your IC too.
I have to say though, his moon isn’t doing as much, you are probably the more emotionally attached one. And his moon is actually square mars in the Synastry here too. So yes definitely expect some of the things I mentioned earlier about composite moon-mars to come to fruition. Overall though, I still don’t like these charts for quite a few reasons. Neither of you match the others DSC (7th house) so marriage or a long-term committed partnership is extremely unlikely to happen. I actually can almost guarantee it despite what he may tell you.
Your only hitting his 5th and 8th house, so this is a fun, sexual fling to him. He doesn’t see you as long-term at all. I also don’t like that your Taurus stellium falls in his 12th house and that composite Venus is in the 12th, honestly this relationship looks like it could be a secret or affair, or scandalous in some way.... make sure he’s not married or already committed elsewhere. I’m getting that vibe strongly. There not much compatibility in this connection either, (not enough easy aspects or conjunctions and more hard aspects than easy ones). You have conjunct angles and node/angles plus the sexual stuff I seen in the composite too (moon-mars) with mars conjunct ASC, moon in 8th, mars conjunct Lilith/priapus etc. but honestly that’s about it. This isn’t a love or long term connection, even if you feel like it is (moon conjunct Neptune) you’re not feeling things clearly. You are going to feel like this is a lot more romantic and special (Neptune) and emotionally involved than it really is, so be aware of that. This is again shown in the composite Venus opp Neptune in the 12th. I also just realized the huge age gap 🙃. This makes total sense lol! there’s the taboo theme showing up, and why this isn’t going to last and why he doesn’t see you long term etc. He has Venus conjunct mars in his 5th house, he’s more than likely a player/cheater or just enjoys passionate fun flings.
Honestly girl keep your guard up and don’t be fooled, Venus hard aspect Neptune in 12th in the composite and considering everything else, let’s me know there’s a
99 percent change you’re being lied to, taken advantage of and going to be disappointed/disillusioned or unrequited love (opp Saturn). IP: Logged | |
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