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Laylay
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posted December 12, 2020 06:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Laylay     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have posted about this man before and unfortunately we are broken up currently- but still act as if we're in a relationship because we just cant let each other go. We video chat several times a day and cant go a few days without seeing each other. We are still intimate.
It's hurting us both but we know it'll hurt us both more to say goodbye.
I've asked him what it is exactly he wants of me, but he doesnt know how to answer. He just knows that he loves me and needs me and I am the same with him.
I believe that I feel more for him than he does for me, and he is inclined to agree as I've discussed it with him and my rational mind tells me to let it go but my heart cant see my life without him. He feels the same. (We've had this conversation too many times.)
I just want some sort of closure, and by closure I mean if I can get an astrological perspective of why we are the way we are because I can't get a straight answer out of him, or myself.
Just as examples if this is a case of unrequited love- as much as it sucks at least I'd know not to try to pursue the unattainable because it will never happen=closure.
If this is karmic then atleast I'd know there is a lesson or some sort of debt i/we need to repay and then move on=closure.
We are both feeling emotionally drained.. but as the title states.. we just cant let each other go
I'd appreciate any response, harsh or kind xx

I am L and he is R.
Thankyou

Synastry:
https://ibb.co/d2cBfpt
Composite:
https://ibb.co/JQ25tTB

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comdoc
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posted December 12, 2020 10:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for comdoc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Overall synastry potential of 95% (9.5/10). Challenges: Your Aries and his Scorpio ASC are difficult to reconcile in one place. Both are Mars ruled: dynamic duo both needing peace. His Gemini Sun in your 3H square your 6H Virgo Jupiter. Inherent fluctuation that you both are learning to deal with. His powerful Scorpio Pluto square your 5H Leo Chiron. Karmic aspect requires action. Sexual healing needed. Explore Tantra Yoga practice together; this can be done remotely.

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softissues
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posted December 12, 2020 02:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for softissues     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gosh I felt like I was reading something I had wrote, I had this feeling with my recent ex. We also had mars and Juno in our first. Moon in second house synastry (such a nice placement). But we had heavy Neptune and Pisces energy in our composite and even in synastry. We also had a Cap Ascendant and mercury in Aries.

The biggest thing I would say is you need time apart. Like it was so difficult to be even hours without him but I had to really limit myself. That disconnect between the heart and mind is also something I deal with daily. The mind tells you to go but the heart still lingers.

I would say the intensity may really cause you to keep yourself close to him.

In terms of unrequited love, you have Venus square Neptune. There may be idealism and illusions of love there. Your venus squares juno (cardinal signs as well), I would interpret that showing a problem of commitment. That's something that just caught my attention. Venus squares Asc while Juno is conjunct Asc so there is focus there. Venus square Ascendant shows attraction but you may not appear as you both want. And I feel like that may be another case of attachment to each other. Either you wouldn't necessarily be each other's type or you don't appear like each other's ideals but you guys get along somehow so there has to be something substantial there. I'm not sure how I did on that interpretation but I speak from experience. And because Venus is in 3rd it may have something to do with communication most likely Sun conjunct Venus is a nice aspect, kind of rare too.

Also Venus Square Mars can show attraction but there's a fine line between love and hate. Intimacy may have been initiated first. There could be mind games. And I would say this would be really important because mars is in the first. And because mars is there, there is a need to physically let out frustrations hence why you're still intimate even though you've broken up. It is important to halt that from now on so you can think objectively and really detach from this union. This will make things easier because you're not physically bonded together which is so underestimated.

Moon Sesquisquare Saturn could be a serious indicator of attachment too. Maybe there may be lessons to do with the home or family? And because Saturn in the 12th these may be repressed. And I feel like this may add to feeling you're doing more than them.

And yes Chiron conjunct Descendant, lessons to be learnt with this union. It may open unhealed wound, this could add to emotional drainage and it's very binding. I would say this is a key aspect. As well as Venus square Chiron in there and sun too.

All feedback is welcome, I'm not the best with astrology but I tried to see what I could!

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Laylay
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posted December 14, 2020 01:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Laylay     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by comdoc:
Overall synastry potential of 95% (9.5/10). Challenges: Your Aries and his Scorpio ASC are difficult to reconcile in one place. Both are Mars ruled: dynamic duo both needing peace. His Gemini Sun in your 3H square your 6H Virgo Jupiter. Inherent fluctuation that you both are learning to deal with. His powerful Scorpio Pluto square your 5H Leo Chiron. Karmic aspect requires action. Sexual healing needed. Explore Tantra Yoga practice together; this can be done remotely.

Thanks for your take I find the synastry potential really interesting as we're very different people but we contrast and compliment at times really nicely and at times horribly! I also wonder if the composite would wear us down eventually as its.. not very good.
Do you believe the fluctuating (exactly what's happening with us!) can eventually slow down over time or is this something that will be persistent over the life of the relationship should we ever be together again? We've spoken about tantra actually and this appeals to both of us so I will research, if not for us then for myself- Thankyou

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Laylay
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posted December 14, 2020 01:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Laylay     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by softissues:
Gosh I felt like I was reading something I had wrote, I had this feeling with my recent ex. We also had mars and Juno in our first. Moon in second house synastry (such a nice placement). But we had heavy Neptune and Pisces energy in our composite and even in synastry. We also had a Cap Ascendant and mercury in Aries.

The biggest thing I would say is you need time apart. Like it was so difficult to be even hours without him but I had to really limit myself. That disconnect between the heart and mind is also something I deal with daily. The mind tells you to go but the heart still lingers.

I would say the intensity may really cause you to keep yourself close to him.

In terms of unrequited love, you have Venus square Neptune. There may be idealism and illusions of love there. Your venus squares juno (cardinal signs as well), I would interpret that showing a problem of commitment. That's something that just caught my attention. Venus squares Asc while Juno is conjunct Asc so there is focus there. Venus square Ascendant shows attraction but you may not appear as you both want. And I feel like that may be another case of attachment to each other. Either you wouldn't necessarily be each other's type or you don't appear like each other's ideals but you guys get along somehow so there has to be something substantial there. I'm not sure how I did on that interpretation but I speak from experience. And because Venus is in 3rd it may have something to do with communication most likely Sun conjunct Venus is a nice aspect, kind of rare too.

Also Venus Square Mars can show attraction but there's a fine line between love and hate. Intimacy may have been initiated first. There could be mind games. And I would say this would be really important because mars is in the first. And because mars is there, there is a need to physically let out frustrations hence why you're still intimate even though you've broken up. It is important to halt that from now on so you can think objectively and really detach from this union. This will make things easier because you're not physically bonded together which is so underestimated.

Moon Sesquisquare Saturn could be a serious indicator of attachment too. Maybe there may be lessons to do with the home or family? And because Saturn in the 12th these may be repressed. And I feel like this may add to feeling you're doing more than them.

And yes Chiron conjunct Descendant, lessons to be learnt with this union. It may open unhealed wound, this could add to emotional drainage and it's very binding. I would say this is a key aspect. As well as Venus square Chiron in there and sun too.

All feedback is welcome, I'm not the best with astrology but I tried to see what I could!


You're spot on about not really being each others type which we're completely aware of but yet theres something so familiar about us that we cant put our finger on.
He feels we are perfect for each other but theres "something missing" which I feel too but dont know what it is.
Funnily enough when we first met it was like magic (probably the venus opp uranus? in our synastry) and we knew there was something special going on so we both decided to hold off any intimate activities for as long as possible.. and we did!
Eventually when we were intimate it was out of this world and still is.. it's one of the only times when we're together our true emotions and love for one another shines through.. which is another reason its hard to stop but I know what you're saying is right 😭
His venus opp my neptune exact aspect as well I think is causing a bit of problems too but based on your reading it looks like theres a reason for the attachment.. can I ask with the venus square Juno is this issue of commitment on my end or his? Or affects both of us?
Thanks for your reply

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softissues
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posted December 14, 2020 09:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for softissues     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
With Venus Square Juno in your composite, it's to do with both of you. The same ex had his Venus square my Juno and what I read was attraction as an ideal mate. Usually, conjunctions and oppositions are considered with Juno aspects especially in synastry but square aspects are harsh so I feel like they can be felt too. It could be an attraction to commit especially at first but then the rose coloured glasses could come off as the relationship continues.

Venus-Uranus aspects are something elseee, I had venus conjunct Uranus in our composite and the relationship started suddenly.

And just some friendly advice for me. There's a reason for attachment but that does not mean that you should continue the relationship. A lot of what you have described really represents what I had with my ex (and it ended because of really heavy traumatic things) not saying that he's like my ex. I sincerely hope he isn't. Although my ex never said he had felt something missing, I have a friend close to me that was engaged to a guy and he said there was something missing in the relationship, he doesn't want to let go but he doesn't want to commit (they have Neptune conjunct Juno though). It's really hindered her future relationships, she's been hungover this guy for 10 years and I would hate for you to be in a similar situation in the future. And I am not saying this is you in any way but it did remind me of these things and I thought I'd share. It was so hard to let go of my ex because of these karmic feelings, so many red flags but I just couldn't let go until I got a third-person perspective that gave me that push to leave. I'm glad you don't have any moon-pluto aspects in your composite or harsh venus-pluto aspects.

I've had another look at the composite and mars square sun, venus square mars, mercury square mars (maybe mars quintile pluto)?!? is not cute (in my opinion). Mercury square mars are annoying anyway because there's a lot of bickering but with mercury in 4th, the arguments would consist of 4th house issues. And obviously, I am just giving my own opinion but with natal mercury in 4th this stuck out to me. I have Pluto in 10th natally and you have it in this composite. There would be power struggles but because it's trine your Chiron, it adds to the karmic value of this relationship and transforming those wounds and it's sextile the ASC (which I have natally) so you guys recognize this somehow. And because Capricorn rules the 10th house traditionally, this pluto would be something to look more into.

The familiarity may come from the moon in 4th and there are not any aspects that are too harsh aspecting it either. And Saturn aspects usually show the glue (can't let it go) in a union and because Saturn is in your 12th house, that may be why you can't put your finger on it. I would say let nature do it's thing with this tie because when I leave something so quickly, I go right back to it. It has to be natural if you decide to end it.

Again not really experienced, I just pick things that stick out and give my own opinion. All feedback is welcome and I sincerely wish you the best.

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julyjuly
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posted December 14, 2020 10:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for julyjuly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Laylay:
Thanks for your take I find the synastry potential really interesting as we're very different people but we contrast and compliment at times really nicely and at times horribly! I also wonder if the composite would wear us down eventually as its.. not very good.
Do you believe the fluctuating (exactly what's happening with us!) can eventually slow down over time or is this something that will be persistent over the life of the relationship should we ever be together again? We've spoken about tantra actually and this appeals to both of us so I will research, if not for us then for myself- Thankyou

There is nice tight Sun-Venus conjunction sextile Jupiter. There seems to be much harsh aspects but they are very wide. I don't think this Composite is bad. Can you change the orbs to 75%

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Laylay
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posted December 15, 2020 12:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Laylay     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by julyjuly:
There is nice tight Sun-Venus conjunction sextile Jupiter. There seems to be much harsh aspects but they are very wide. I don't think this Composite is bad. Can you change the orbs to 75%


Thankyou ❤

Here it is
https://ibb.co/KyLk9d1

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Laylay
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posted December 15, 2020 12:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Laylay     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by softissues:
With Venus Square Juno in your composite, it's to do with both of you. The same ex had his Venus square my Juno and what I read was attraction as an ideal mate. Usually, conjunctions and oppositions are considered with Juno aspects especially in synastry but square aspects are harsh so I feel like they can be felt too. It could be an attraction to commit especially at first but then the rose coloured glasses could come off as the relationship continues.

Venus-Uranus aspects are something elseee, I had venus conjunct Uranus in our composite and the relationship started suddenly.

And just some friendly advice for me. There's a reason for attachment but that does not mean that you should continue the relationship. A lot of what you have described really represents what I had with my ex (and it ended because of really heavy traumatic things) not saying that he's like my ex. I sincerely hope he isn't. Although my ex never said he had felt something missing, I have a friend close to me that was engaged to a guy and he said there was something missing in the relationship, he doesn't want to let go but he doesn't want to commit (they have Neptune conjunct Juno though). It's really hindered her future relationships, she's been hungover this guy for 10 years and I would hate for you to be in a similar situation in the future. And I am not saying this is you in any way but it did remind me of these things and I thought I'd share. It was so hard to let go of my ex because of these karmic feelings, so many red flags but I just couldn't let go until I got a third-person perspective that gave me that push to leave. I'm glad you don't have any moon-pluto aspects in your composite or harsh venus-pluto aspects.

I've had another look at the composite and mars square sun, venus square mars, mercury square mars (maybe mars quintile pluto)?!? is not cute (in my opinion). Mercury square mars are annoying anyway because there's a lot of bickering but with mercury in 4th, the arguments would consist of 4th house issues. And obviously, I am just giving my own opinion but with natal mercury in 4th this stuck out to me. I have Pluto in 10th natally and you have it in this composite. There would be power struggles but because it's trine your Chiron, it adds to the karmic value of this relationship and transforming those wounds and it's sextile the ASC (which I have natally) so you guys recognize this somehow. And because Capricorn rules the 10th house traditionally, this pluto would be something to look more into.

The familiarity may come from the moon in 4th and there are not any aspects that are too harsh aspecting it either. And Saturn aspects usually show the glue (can't let it go) in a union and because Saturn is in your 12th house, that may be why you can't put your finger on it. I would say let nature do it's thing with this tie because when I leave something so quickly, I go right back to it. It has to be natural if you decide to end it.

Again not really experienced, I just pick things that stick out and give my own opinion. All feedback is welcome and I sincerely wish you the best.


I appreciate your experience in that there are so many similarities to mine and I dont want to be like your friend who is hung up on this guy which is why I wanted to try to get a better understanding of what's going on so I could try to move on and get closure.. and you've helped but some perspective in there for me so thankyou ❤ I want to let go but i do want to let it play out naturally- which is what I think I will do otherwise I'll probably go mad.
Much love xx

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julyjuly
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posted December 15, 2020 02:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for julyjuly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The biggest problem I see in the composite is the MArs-MErcury square as this can lead to conflicts and Mars-Sun square as this can lead to ego clashes.

You have VEnus-Neptune conjunction in your natal chart and this can make you over-idealize relationships and make you want a perfect relationship. Your Neptune is also opposite his Venus. This can explain why you and he thinks there is something missing.

But these problems can be solved and I think it is worth it considering the good aspects in the chart.

Best luck!

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Travelman
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posted December 15, 2020 06:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Travelman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by comdoc:
Overall synastry potential of 95% (9.5/10).

How can this be determined?

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softissues
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posted December 15, 2020 01:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for softissues     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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