posted December 26, 2020 09:59 AM            

Little bit of info, we have never formally met or spoken to each other. He is my close friend's brother whom I know a lot about. Initially seeing the strong connections of his placements to my chart, it did spark interest because I haven't had someone's personal planets hit my 7th house like this before.

I had a reading done by Moon about my soul contract and initially, I thought it was someone else but I think this individual may be a stronger match. With strong Sag and Jupiter placements. This may signal the tight sun conjunct nn in composite.

posted December 26, 2020 06:58 PM            

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Originally posted by Stoika7:
Hi beautie!

There are strong elements of fate in this relationship, with the axis conjunction in synastry and the composite nodes on the axis, maybe cause you met him through your brother, and this somehow fated feeling triggers a strong mutual attraction. He may be a bit "mysterious" since natal Pluto/Chiron/ASC is square Sun, there may be a hidden side to his personality that makes him fascinating, but since Chiron is there, he may also be quite reserved about his true feelings.
Btw, the sexual hook might be quite strong, with composite Moon conjunct Pluto and Eris opposite Mars and square Nodes/Asc-Dsc. A sudden overwhelming infatuation is possible. The problem is that Neptune is square MC and the Jupiter/Juno midpoint is square Saturn, so even though things may be potentially exciting and promising, I am not sure this will ever develope in something serious, cept for a temporary affair, since also Venus is quincunx to Neptune, and Neptune/Saturn midpoint is conjunct Juno, cause other than initial intensity, you may find out a core incompatibility and that other than fireworks and passion maybe there's no common base for long term expectations...

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Ah sigh...onto the next one 😂 jk but thank you for response. And correction he’s my close friend’s brother, I am attracted to his more mysterious side especially since that’s how I’ve come to know more about him through my friend. And from what I know we do have things in common and I kind of have the inclination of helping him (🙄 his moon is heavily aspected in our synastry as well 🤷‍♀️.

Intitially, I think the chart is pretty binding considering who we are as individuals irl but I think the sexual hook may be quite potent. And the lack of Venus aspects is kind of sad especially in the 6th house 😔 even though it’s loosely conjunct the dsc.

posted December 26, 2020 08:43 PM            

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Originally posted by Stoika7:
Yes yes I did understand that nothing has happened yet and I was talking of potentiality as well...
I think that Sun and Uranus in fifth house for solar returns looks matching with romantic news jupiter may bring to you during next year :-)

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posted December 26, 2020 08:52 PM            

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Originally posted by softissues:
Ah okay brilliant lol, would you say there's no positive aspects for this union to work? Or are the negatives really detrimental? The neptune oppose mercury is something I'm very wary of.

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Yes there are positive aspects, especially a potential great affection and devotion (IF you ever start a relationship), and with Sun/NorthNode/DSC there may be an actual long time connection given by environmental elements (Cancer=family), even though a complete openness in communication doesnt look easy and may become frustrating (Saturn in gemini and Mercury opp Neptune). The main concern is that Neptune is square MC and the Jupiter/Juno midpoint is square Saturn, this would suggest that a serious committment is unlikely or may have strong unstable traits and uncertainties, maybe cause of external circumstances/environment. Since Mars-Venus midpoint is square Saturn, I assume you likely won't easily get into a stable romantic relationship with this guy...

posted December 26, 2020 09:04 PM            

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Originally posted by Stoika7:
Yes there are positive aspects, especially a potential great affection and devotion (IF you ever start a relationship), and with Sun/NorthNode/DSC there may be an actual long time connection given by environmental elements (Cancer=family), even though a complete openness in communication doesnt look easy and may become frustrating (Saturn in gemini and Mercury opp Neptune). The main concern is that Neptune is square MC and the Jupiter/Juno midpoint is square Saturn, this would suggest that a serious committment is unlikely or may have strong unstable traits and uncertainties, maybe cause of external circumstances/environment. Since Mars-Venus midpoint is square Saturn, I assume you likely won't easily get into a stable romantic relationship with this guy...

Edit: no, sorry, its not jupiter-juno, but mars-venus midpoint square saturn! jupiter-juno midpoint seems square neptune, which would give false expectations.

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posted December 27, 2020 12:05 AM            

Hello Softissues.

Ladies, I read the last messages and wondered if softissues could post a progress chart of your next January 21-February 20th transits in your prog chart. Might the 9th or 3rd look active in some way? The S. Contract could have been more than one as complicated as it sounds. As we get minor and major lessons. Soul agreements. The big one might not be as easy to define -yet. I did feel in most the readings, especially the romance leaning ones, a certain annoyance from the Spirits in choosing the cards. Many times were Maybe answers etc. We are walking in a dark unknowkn territory which they allow some light. We can still get more clarifying cards after you and Stoika can see some keys in your mystery of the charts Softissues. If you share those charts and maybe add traditional decans, those are little box options in the center of the menu choices.
Another thing I remembered after writing a response to Spring, Jupiter is travelling with Saturn and expands any energy he is influenced by. Restrictions. Travel. Affection, what have you .. what house is he traveling in your transits now?

posted December 27, 2020 04:36 AM            

@Stoika:

Sigh another Romeo and Juliet situation? A longtime friendship would be nice but that sexual hook??? Messy.

Gosh, a possibility of another guy so soon? Ah it's like a never-ending cycle.

Moon:

Thank you so much for chiming in! And omg my progressed chart in general has the 9th and 3rd house busy as hell although no transits in those respected houses. I have added the progressions for the 3 years for 20 Jan.

2020:

2021:

2022:

I think I do need to be patient. I'm not surprised that the Spirits seem annoyed because there seem to be parallels between all these 3 men I have mentioned before.

Saturn is travelling in my 12th natally and 11th in my progressed chart.

posted December 27, 2020 02:55 PM            

  I hope you both are doing well. 🌸

Softissues, 
I'm not yet too good with the envelope energy. Stoika or Todd, Graham  may be able to help you with that. 
I will do my best ..

It is in your Jan 21st  of 2020 chart + involved Your 9th , 12th, with  7th (other) , 1st and 4th. I feel there must be something to it.

 Your 3/4th cusps, home/ancestral/communication/short travels. The 9th ruler in the 3rd. The 3rd is The true ruler for your chart - Gemini - The Lovers. Jupiter was in the Uranus decan (spontaneous).
Uranus is the lid to the envelope.
*Due to the envelope being opened here - I believe you accepted a mission/agreement, likely the SC ~ it isn't open after but the rest of the energy is rather similar with the envelope already opened.

He's in the Venus (12th) decan. Aqua. Final Decan.
Chiron is part of your envelope,  your SC might have been about healing them or you. Other is inferred,  so you were in a partnership in some way. Venus shows love. Inside the decan of  the  Sagittarius  ruler Jupiter! She was expanded in your first - you brought huge love to another.
As well you exhibited some Mars quality, which is energetic, with charisma fearless and inspired. These qualities were seen by your other. Your Moon in 7th was in the Pluto Decan. This might have caused volatile arguing. Passion maybe.
I feel your most powerful emphasises are Jupiter/Uranus/Venus/Chiron  then Mercury/Moon anspd Sun (Chiron in it's decan).
I hope this makes sense. ♥️

 your current upcoming energy of these dates~
Good news possibly.   Your Chiron - still in 9th Sag, is still involved with fhe 1st and 12th in that trine, the top of the envelope.  Still connected to what was last year. (as well in 2022). There's a noticeable cradle in them. Again I apologize,  my limited knowledge on the parttern meanings.
I feel this may be about nurturing?  Someone keener could possibly help with that.
Cradle: 1/3/9/12  Chiron-Uranus-Venus-Mercury  Healing, electric/spontaneous/ revolutionary , love, communication,  short travels. The other is not involved. From my perception,  were you to stay in touch with H or F, even A. (forgive me idk which one it might be). We'd need to see fhe midpoint progresses but with yours it seems from your view, you'd feel as though you were alone in this. Empty 7th. As though the communications are open yst you might not be together in the 3D. Feeling alone from the love intended.
Mercury sextile Venus, you are speaking with those you love. Venus wandering yo Chiron, this speaking is healing and Sagittarius related. Tr Chiron is coming towards the 1st house Venus as well. Possibly in sextile with your chart Neptune.
Your first is Aries, his ruler is in Sagittarius. 

tr NN in Venus decan ~ follow your Venus, the tr (Divine) NN points to her.
Another one to not lose sight of Your actual NN ..
inside the Moon decan of the Moon's ruler Cancer AND in the natural house 4.  I missed this (7th house from earlier) The Moon is in the final decan Neptune in house of  OTHER. This could point to being aware of deception, illusions, sectrets hidden. My negating it earlier,  as I overlooked it - this energy may reflect this year for you in terms of "the other".
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2022
In this year the Moon is pronounced and moved to it's own decan within the 8th.  Marriage is sometimes partly 8th in energies.  Your NN in the Moon decan,  you may be closer or now in a happiness zone.

The date 1.21.2022
Earth trine in general  -
tr Venus in her own decan, tr  Uranus + tr Moon
(within 2 Mercury decans) Love, Emotions,  shocking, communicative.

Saturn has his fingers in your communications. He's in the decan of Mercury of the Gemini house.

Tr Saturn  between 11th/12th cusp in Mercury in Aqua  .  Idk if the communication may be restricted, delayed. Someone not speaking full thoughts in a group or in electronic communications. 
Your pr  Saturn is trine your DC of Libra cusp. within Venus decan.
pr Saturn is trine Neptune

This chart feels more like Saturn: fatherly, discipline,  restricting,  solid, time/waiting ~
Mercury: Communication,  technology,  Misunderstanding if it is aspecting poorly or in retrog.
Moon: Those secrets she revealed since the last year, now she is much more calm in this chart.
The Mercury  3rd and Venus 1st do aspect her.
You are in serious thoughts/ communication in terms of your 8th house matters.

Venus:
Not a perfect trine but your drawing shows your Venus/Mercury/Uranus houses 1/3/12. It seems there will be shocking professing (discovery and/or admissions) of love or the mere realization of it. Which in 12th might be mulled over before sharing it - depending on the nature of the synastry/ midpoints and father time (Saturn) ..

As soon as I'm able I'll relook over your reading ~ we can clarify, if need be too.
I do have a cpl Qs in mind so maybe I'll drop thosein your thread you started on the SCs.

I can go over this more at a later time. Father time has me here.
I hope some of this is helpful and I'll  bb to see if Stoika or others can furth decipher. Have a wonderful day!  

posted December 27, 2020 04:53 PM            

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It is in your Jan 21st  of 2020 chart + involved Your 9th , 12th, with  7th (other) , 1st and 4th. I feel there must be something to it.

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See girl, I told you it may be F because I was only speaking to him during this time. I'll tell you why.

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Your 3/4th cusps, home/ancestral/communication/short travels. The 9th ruler in the 3rd. The 3rd is The true ruler for your chart - Gemini - The Lovers. Jupiter was in the Uranus decan (spontaneous).
Uranus is the lid to the envelope.
*Due to the envelope being opened here - I believe you accepted a mission/agreement, likely the SC ~ it isn't open after but the rest of the energy is rather similar with the envelope already opened.

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In the Jan 2021 transit, I did agree to marry F in the future and it was an agreement. However, the reason why it isn't open after is because we had to stop communication for our agreement to be successful in the future (it won't make sense to many but it's what happened).

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He's in the Venus (12th) decan. Aqua. Final Decan.
Chiron is part of your envelope,  your SC might have been about healing them or you. Other is inferred,  so you were in a partnership in some way. Venus shows love. Inside the decan of  the  Sagittarius  ruler Jupiter! She was expanded in your first - you brought huge love to another.
As well you exhibited some Mars quality, which is energetic, with charisma fearless and inspired. These qualities were seen by your other. Your Moon in 7th was in the Pluto Decan. This might have caused volatile arguing. Passion maybe.
I feel your most powerful emphasises are Jupiter/Uranus/Venus/Chiron then Mercury/Moon anspd Sun (Chiron in its decan).
I hope this makes sense. ♥️

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As I mentioned he has a moon in Aqua but idk his time of birth (so annoying) but what's so profound is that he's Pisces/Aries Sun (born on a cusp) and depending on his rising it either makes him a Pisces or Aries sigh. Maybe he's an Aqua rising in the last decan?? Actually no because then it would be too similar to mine and then it'd be similar in the composite. Idk about the healing though. There was a lot of love. And I did inhibit my mars quality (which he loved) but there was not volatile arguing, there was passion. I'm just confused though because if it's already happened then what am I doing right now because I went through a lot after our halt in communication. Like I'd say it was one of the worst pains, breaking up with my recent ex felt like child's play compared to what I dealt with then which really shocked me because the contents of the recent relationship was way more detrimental (at least with what's apparent).

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 your current upcoming energy of these dates~
Good news possibly.   Your Chiron - still in 9th Sag, is still involved with fhe 1st and 12th in that trine, the top of the envelope.  Still connected to what was last year. (as well in 2022). There's a noticeable cradle in them. Again I apologize,  my limited knowledge on the parttern meanings.
I feel this may be about nurturing?  Someone keener could possibly help with that.
Cradle: 1/3/9/12  Chiron-Uranus-Venus-Mercury  Healing, electric/spontaneous/ revolutionary , love, communication,  short travels. The other is not involved. From my perception,  were you to stay in touch with H or F, even A. (forgive me idk which one it might be). We'd need to see fhe midpoint progresses but with yours it seems from your view, you'd feel as though you were alone in this. Empty 7th. As though the communications are open yst you might not be together in the 3D. Feeling alone from the love intended.
Mercury sextile Venus, you are speaking with those you love. Venus wandering yo Chiron, this speaking is healing and Sagittarius related. Tr Chiron is coming towards the 1st house Venus as well. Possibly in sextile with your chart Neptune.
Your first is Aries, his ruler is in Sagittarius. 

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I am alone in this! I have to figure this out on my own and then do what I need to do. I am currently healing but for healing in regards to H, not F. I am speaking to those I love. It seems like my current energies are good and with the potent Sag energy alongside 9th house, what am I doing right now coincides with that. Broadening my understanding of astrology and learning more about it alongside different ways of thinking etc.

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tr NN in Venus decan ~ follow your Venus, the tr (Divine) NN points to her.
Another one to not lose sight of Your actual NN ..
inside the Moon decan of the Moon's ruler Cancer AND in the natural house 4.  I missed this (7th house from earlier) The Moon is in the final decan Neptune in house of  OTHER. This could point to being aware of deception, illusions, sectrets hidden. My negating it earlier,  as I overlooked it - this energy may reflect this year for you in terms of "the other".

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I'm not sure how to take this but I'll be mindful of it. I'd say I am aware of deception currently especially in terms of the other. Idk whether the natal neptune in 12th gives that strength in perception and intuition.

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2022
In this year the Moon is pronounced and moved to it's own decan within the 8th.  Marriage is sometimes partly 8th in energies.  Your NN in the Moon decan,  you may be closer or now in a happiness zone.

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Oh gosh I hope so, happiness sounds great. Although my solar return for then doesn't look that great (in my opinion).

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The date 1.21.2022
Earth trine in general  -
tr Venus in her own decan, tr  Uranus + tr Moon
(within 2 Mercury decans) Love, Emotions,  shocking, communicative.

Saturn has his fingers in your communications. He's in the decan of Mercury of the Gemini house.

Tr Saturn  between 11th/12th cusp in Mercury in Aqua  .  Idk if the communication may be restricted, delayed. Someone not speaking full thoughts in a group or in electronic communications. 
Your pr  Saturn is trine your DC of Libra cusp. within Venus decan.
pr Saturn is trine Neptune

This chart feels more like Saturn: fatherly, discipline,  restricting,  solid, time/waiting ~
Mercury: Communication,  technology,  Misunderstanding if it is aspecting poorly or in retrog.
Moon: Those secrets she revealed since the last year, now she is much more calm in this chart.
The Mercury  3rd and Venus 1st do aspect her.
You are in serious thoughts/ communication in terms of your 8th house matters.

Venus:
Not a perfect trine but your drawing shows your Venus/Mercury/Uranus houses 1/3/12. It seems there will be shocking professing (discovery and/or admissions) of love or the mere realization of it. Which in 12th might be mulled over before sharing it - depending on the nature of the synastry/ midpoints and father time (Saturn) ..

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In that date specifically, I'll be in my last year of university so I feel like most of the communication and restriction could be that. And since my father is really aware of my career, I feel like that's what the Saturn looks like. A lot of responsibility and discipline to do well.

I feel like that's when F may come back or we could be in contact again. I did say I wanted him to see me graduate (kind of hard now bc of covid). Or it could be someone new entirely. Idk idk.

posted December 27, 2020 05:02 PM            

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Originally posted by softissues:
Not really ready for the potent emotional side of a relationship at least for a while.

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THIS :-) prog. moon quincunx prog. sun.
But I think you will be more so in 2022, as Moon will enter prog. 8th house.
The solar return aspects you mention seem to make sense with the picture.