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Topic: Asteroid contacts in synastry - any help please but especially @Todd @Orange
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STACEYBAE
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posted January 20, 2021 12:32 AM
  
So, I have a huge amount of asteroid contacts in synastry with my person. All orbs are tight, most are exact but some up to 2 degrees but they're in a stellium. Could anyone pretty please help and maybe just pick out a few to help me interpret? Specifically who feels what? The asterisked ones I'm SUPER curious about. Don't know if you need signs or houses but that was a little too much work for me but I can add if needed! My Vertex, Adorea, Astarte, Valentine, Priapus and his namesake asteroid are all conjunct in my chart. **My Pholus and Anti-Vertex are conjunct his Tantalus, Anteros, Celestia, Abundantia, Chiron and Chaos. **His Circe and Boda are conjunct my Moon and our composite South Node/Jupiter. My Boda is conjunct his House and IC. We also have a Boda-Nostalgia double whammy. **My namesake asteroid, Uranus, Ishtar and Venus are conjunct his Vertex, Union, Neptune, Memoria, Fanatica and Aphrodite and his Moon/Venus midpoint. We have a Boda conjunct Nostalia in our composite that is conjunct all of this. **His namesake asteroid is opposite my namesake asteroid/Ceres/Atropos in his chart. My Akashi, Kama, Tantalus and Alma are conjunct his Juno and Ishtar. My Lust and Aphrodite are conjunct his Hypnos and our composite IC. My Tristan is conjunct his Isolda and our composite Atropos. His Pyramus is conjunct my Thisbe. My Groom, Hypnos and Unitas are conjunct his Alma. His Groom is conjunct my Circe. My Eros is conjunct his Kama. My Nessus and Anteros are square his North and South Nodes. **My MC is conjunct his Eros, Angel, Casanova, Mercury and Descendant and our composite Moon. My Ascendant and North Node are conjunct his Fidelio and trine his Lust and Valentine. His Akashi, Ixion, Sweet and Quaoar are conjunct my Sun. His Desiderata and Pholus are trine my natal Sun and conjunct my composite name. My Briede, Jupiter, Link, Liebe, Hawaii (where we met) and Devine are conjunct his Sun. My Karma is conjunct his Uranus and opposite his Hawaii and our composite Part of Fortune. His Psyche is conjunct my Chiron in Gemini, trine my Psyche and POF in Aquarius and trine his Pluto in Libra. His Nessus is conjunct my Compassion and trine my Dejanira. My Mercury is conjunct his Adonis, Samadhi and Utopia. **His Briede and Priapus are conjunct my Vesta, Angel, Bacchus. My Lilith is square his Sun and Moon, and conjunct his MC. My Union and Atropos are conjunct his Karma. My Devota, Celestia and Ceres are conjunct his South Node. My Desiderata is conjunct his Kaali, Bacchus and North Node and our composite Vertex. My Paradise is conjunct his Pluto. His Destinn and Cupido are conjunct my Pluto. My Descendant, South Node and Venusia are conjunct his Venus. His Sun/Moon midpoint is conjunct my Sun/Moon and Venus/Mars midpoints. My Part of Fortune is conjunct his Venus/Jupiter midpoint. His Part of Fortune is opposite my Part of Fortune. **In our composite, we have Sun/Venus/Valentine trine Mars/Lilith/Pholus. IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted January 21, 2021 11:29 AM
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STACEYBAE
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posted January 21, 2021 11:53 AM
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Originally posted by Randall:
Bump!
Eh, don't even bother. I am paying a professional astrologer to help me now. It seems like this board is full of a lot of people asking questions, but no one really answering them. At least that's how I've felt. This will probably be my last post here. Bye guys! IP: Logged |
anska5
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posted January 21, 2021 01:36 PM
I think people are extremely helpful on this board answering questions. Maybe it's just the sheer number of aspects you listed that knocked the wind out of most...it certainly left me exhausted just reading through the long list..Maybe sometimes asking for less amounts to more in the end.IP: Logged |
STACEYBAE
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posted January 21, 2021 04:22 PM
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Originally posted by anska5:
I think people are extremely helpful on this board answering questions. Maybe it's just the sheer number of aspects you listed that knocked the wind out of most...it certainly left me exhausted just reading through the long list..Maybe sometimes asking for less amounts to more in the end.
I asked pretty please that someone/anyone just pick out A FEW (like 1-2) to help me with, please read the beginning of my post. I thought it would be an interesting topic and help other people learn as well as myself. I would never ask for someone to interpret them all for me because that's just ridiculous and demanding, unless I was paying them - which I now am. Bye.
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Stoika7
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posted January 21, 2021 06:20 PM
I did read your Composite, so I wouldn't say "no one". This is just a forum, you can't expect to find experts ready to reply to everything right away. There are only volounteers on here, and people exchanging opinions. Of course if you dont find your answers here you need to pay a professional. But I don't understand your annoyed comment. IP: Logged |
STACEYBAE
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posted January 21, 2021 06:53 PM
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Originally posted by Stoika7:
I did read your Composite, so I wouldn't say "no one". This is just a forum, you can't expect to find experts ready to reply to everything right away. There are only volounteers on here, and people exchanging opinions. Of course if you dont find your answers here you need to pay a professional. But I don't understand your annoyed comment.
Yes and I very much appreciated your input. But you were the only one even though I asked a few other people specifically to help. I’ve seen these same people engage with other posters and not me for some reason. I’ve seen others get a lot more feedback on similar topics. I even took your advice and asked Todd and Orange with my latest question, but got nothing so far. I was just making an unemotional observation that it seems there’s a lot more people asking questions than answering. I wasn’t annoyed initially, just stating not to bother bumping my post because I was paying a professional to answer my questions. Then someone told me my request was overwhelming and exhausting when I specifically asked in my post to just pick a few, like 1-2. I thought it would be a fun topic of conversation and help other people, but apparently it came across wrong and might have “knocked the wind out of most.” Blame it on my Chiron in Gemini in the 1st: my voice gets largely ignored on a regular basis and people misinterpret what I’m saying or what I mean all the time which has caused me a good amount of pain in my life. A public forum is just not the right place for me and I should have known that from the beginning based on my life experiences. IP: Logged |
Stoika7
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posted January 21, 2021 07:42 PM
I don't think you're ignored, maybe simply your request is not easy to be answered on here. I know professional astrologers who are not experienced on those asteroids neither. Todd usually has a lot of requests and he may sometimes miss someone, and Orange is not always here, but they are the only two people I know on here who are more experienced on asteroids... Maybe it is just matter of waiting a little longer and continuing to bump the thread.
Then yes, I also think that a long list of asteroids, even though you asked to just pick a few, can be confusing... It would be maybe better to have images.
Please consider that there are many requests on the forum and that lately there are only few people who usually reply compared to the amount of requests, like me, Todd, Graham and a few others, so I don't think it's your own issue.
In any case I wish you that the professional you are talking to will be helpful. IP: Logged |
todd
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posted January 21, 2021 08:17 PM
You need to do your own research .as mentioned the sheer number of questions is ridiculous.I don't use many of the asteroids so I couldn't say anything.
Basically you are focusing on asteroids which are very helpful,but I don't think you have any idea what these asteroids mean and so you could even give pertinent feedback to their validity.IP: Logged |
STACEYBAE
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posted January 21, 2021 08:43 PM
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Originally posted by todd:
You need to do your own research .as mentioned the sheer number of questions is ridiculous.I don't use many of the asteroids so I couldn't say anything.
Basically you are focusing on asteroids which are very helpful,but I don't think you have any idea what these asteroids mean and so you could even give pertinent feedback to their validity.
What makes you think I HAVEN'T done my own research? I have done A LOT of research, but I have trouble trusting my own interpretation completely because I'm in the actual situationship and don't want that influencing my interpretation which is why I asked for a little help - whatever anyone was willing to offer - which was nothing apparently. People ask for help all the time on here - do you tell them to do their own research too? I've seen past posts that are waaaaaay longer and more detailed than mine with lots of responses, which is like - whatever - I'm over it. I thought it would be a fun topic to discuss. You guys seem to be more pissy about all this than I am, good grief. I'm done discussing this, which is what I was nicely trying to say when I said don't bother bumping my post because I'd consulted a professional. I'm done yelling into the abyss, being ignored and having to convince people of what I'm REALLY trying to say. I'm going through a progressed moon conjunct Chiron in Gemini in the 1st house transit right now, can you tell? LOL! Whoever is in charge please just delete this thread so people don't have to keep seeing this at the top of the page all the time. Peace out, guys!
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Stoika7
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posted January 21, 2021 09:02 PM
I'm not pissy at all, I am just trying to explain that if none answered (up to now) is just cause none likely had the full knowledge (and time) to do so, that's all.
I usually don't see posts with long asteroids lists get much replies, honestly, cause as I said it's not easy to find people very experienced on all those asteroids. Sometimes someone who has more knowledge on asteroids pops up, but recently I havent seen this happen too much. I really cant see why you are taking it so bad.
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Graham
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posted January 22, 2021 01:48 AM
You asked specifically for two of the forum's recognised experts to reply. ... So, having not much knowledge of asteroids myself, a response from me would only have muddied the waters.IP: Logged |
LunaIscariot
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posted January 22, 2021 02:13 AM
Most people are unfamiliar with the asteroids you mentioned, I know I am and I’m quite familiar with most asteroids, so that’s the main issue. Also I’ve never seen Todd who you directed this towards use most of those asteroids (astarte, tantalis, fanatica etc.) and Orange isn’t around that much she probably didn’t see this yet. That’s why you didn’t get a reply, nobody was purposely ignoring you or had some personal vendetta against you I assure you. So please don’t take it that way and we hope you stick around on the forum and not let a misunderstanding deter you. Also, the main planets, aspects and houses/overlays are most important in a synastry/composite analysis, asteroids come after, and most of the ones you mentioned aren’t that significant or just not well studied enough to have real knowledge of what they mean, that’s why they aren’t used most of the time. I would stick to the basic/popular ones that we do know about how they manifest and what they mean (juno, psyche, eros, Cupido, nessus, dejanira, union, vesta, karma, Ceres, Chiron etc.) instead of trying to complicate things too much, since you’re going to be hard up to try find someone who actually knows what your “Anti-vertex conjunct his Tantalis” etc. means.
All these minor asteroids are totally unnecessary for an in-depth, accurate Synastry or composite analysis anyways, you should be able to find all the info and answers you seek without them and using the basic asteroids. Also I feel like I need to say this just in general for anyone who might read this in the future, I want to make it clear I’m not saying you yourself are doing this; but I’ve noticed it seems sometimes people try grasping for straws looking for answers in the form of all these asteroids if they’re underwhelmed by the regular Synastry, planets and points etc. trying to find another explanation or validation for their feelings, connection or relationship with all this extra stuff.
IME, all the asteroids in the world don’t mean anything if the main planets and points themselves don’t have strong aspects and connection first, it’s honestly a waste of time. And whenever I do stumble open a really strong Synastry, for good or bad, only then will I look to the asteroids to confirm or highlight certain themes and dynamics or confirm suspicions etc. and it’s always there. You’re never going to find a mutually exclusive connection between the Synastry, composite or asteroids. They will all be corresponding and tell a similar story, just another layer and perspective of it.
So I hope this helps someone and nobody took offence. Just trying to share some advice and wisdom for anyone new to asteroids or just astrology in general, this is info I wish I would have known years ago when I first got started reading charts; asteroids should only be used SUPPLEMENTARY after you already have a solid, cohesive idea of what’s going on from the basic charts, never look at asteroids isolated without referring back to the major planets and points to see how it’s all connecting, and if the Synastry/composite doesn’t explain it first, then you’re either not looking hard enough, don’t know how or it’s simply not there, don’t go grasping for straws in the form of asteroids to find an answer. IP: Logged | |
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