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Karma30
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posted March 03, 2021 09:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Karma30     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi everyone! I hope you're all well, I'm new here and first of all I want to apologize for my not-so-perfect English since I am European
I'd like to ask you some insight about my synastry and composite with my boyfriend of one and a half year. We're very compatible on a mental and physical level, and we always had a feeling of being the ONE for one another. I've always been interested in astrology, but I started analizing our own charts since last month, so pardon me if I make abnormous mistakes... I'm just a neophite
These are the charts:
Synastry (I'm the blue, he's the red)

http://www.astro.com/cgi/showgif.cgi?lang=e&gif=astro_61gw_a_l.60484.29442.png&res=100

And composite:
http://www.astro.com/cgi/showgif.cgi?lang=e&gif=astro_621gw_a_l.60550.31642.png&res=100


For what we can see there are some traditionally bad aspects in synastry (like my saturn conj his Mars) that I really can't explain to myself, since we've always been very open, free and still emotionally close. In composite among the others we have a T square involving saturn, and the opposition between pluto and the moon.
And it feels very strange, cause we don't feel negativity at all, we have a great chemistry, a fabolous mental connection and we actually on everything (and if not on everything on the most important things, except he's a vegetarian and I'm not hahaha)!
By the way I know that charts and life often diverge... My ex of five years and I had a way better composite, but it actually ended (and we're not friends anymore).
Me and my actual boyfriend are really close emotionally, psychologically and also... Physically! (I just noticed that my Eros conj his ascendant and his Eros squares mine and conj my juno!) and we are thinking about having a baby together in the future (not sure about marriage tho, especially me)
Can you help me highlight some good and bad aspects? I'm genuinely curious, because we really want it to work!!
Thanks a lot, A. <3

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Stoika7
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posted March 03, 2021 02:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Karma30 and welcome!

Images don't show up with such a link. You need to upload the images on imgur and then share the link taking "s" off from "http".

Thank you!

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Karma30
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posted March 03, 2021 02:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Karma30     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Charts
http://i.imgur.com/UHJWX5h.jpg

I hope you can see them!
And thank you

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Karma30
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posted March 03, 2021 03:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Karma30     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://i.imgur.com/pq7BhxW.jpg

And this is the composite!

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Stoika7
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posted March 03, 2021 05:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes the Saturn square Saturn conjunct Mars looks quite heavy, and the red Chiron is opposite to Neptune conjunct the blue DSC/Jupiter, so there may be some kind of toxic dynamic underlying the relationship on the long run, with Sun conjunct Pluto opposite Moon and Jupiter conjunct Neptune, there is a strong romantic glue that may lead to overlook issues or these may take time before surfacing.

Looking at the Composite, the Juno/Jupiter midpoint is opposite Sun and the Juno-South Node/Moon midpoint is conjunct MC/Mars, so your bond is strong and expected to be long term, there is a fated and familiar dimension, the Venus/Mars midpoint is opposite Eros/Amor, so the dynamic is supported by strong romantic and passionate feelings. Saturn is square Moon and Pluto though... this again suggests that there may be a toxic trait underlying, control issues or emotional power struggles may potentially arise. Jupiter is square to the nodes, so it's possible that you can balance potential conflicts by learning from each other, somehow differences between you two are enriching rather than divisive. I'm not sure your future plans will always match. To me, this looks like a relationship where there may be challenges and choices putting your emotional bond and individual priorities to test, with Juno conjunct South Node and Chiron in 12th house it is a very karmic relationship, a potential discovery of your inner vulnerabilities and the path for healing/awareness/self-growth via the relationship.

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posted March 04, 2021 01:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Karma30     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Stroika!
Thank you very much! I really loved your analysis! I kinda expected something like this (especially for the 12th house chiron in composite and also for our synastry chirons...did you notice that my chiron is exactly conj his destinn and also -even if it isn't showing in the chart-his Sappho? I wonder if this means he experiences me as a wounded person somehow).
I actually have no perception about being in a BAAAAD KARMIC RELATIONSHIP (for what I read they seem all 'doomed' somehow) but sometimes I wonder about our individual life paths (he's a teacher, I'm finishing medical school) and on how our work choice will limit us in the future. We tend to avoid the issue because (as I said) we really want it to work. Maybe it's Jupiter and Neptune with their rose-colored glasses
Plus, we help each other a lot with our anxieties (well, especially my anxieties actually), so I already saw the inner-growth path, and discovering composite chiron in 12th was somehow expected. Anyway, right now everything is fine. Saturn is the baddest b***h in the long run, and I hope we will confront him with a smile when the time comes, as we always did

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posted March 04, 2021 02:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Karma30     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ps. Ma sei italiana?? Ho letto nella tua risposta ad un altro post che sei romana!

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posted March 04, 2021 01:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sììì, ahah, ma anche tu allora :-D

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posted March 04, 2021 01:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I dont see a "bad" karma in the chart. Karma can be a path to awareness, and with Jupiter square the nodes here such a path looks quite significant...
Saturn square Moon and square Pluto is a bit heavy emotionally, this is an aspect that with time may become draining... it all depends on how you two manage this energy which may give a too serious tone and take off the sparkle or the "childish" side of romance, in fact Chiron is in Leo. Planning to have a child, for instance, may become an issue with these placements, for some reason. Or, other future establishments on a more grounded plane, may arise disagreements.

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posted March 04, 2021 02:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Karma30     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Comunque esserci trovate su un forum internazionale è fantastico! Ahahah
Btw, what strikes me the most is that I experience the relationship as balanced in the 'childish' aspect: while he may seem the more serious person (after all he has a major in phylosophy! Ahaha) he is actually more carefree, and sometimes acts silly just to make me laugh, while I seem to be kinda superficial and clownish sometimes (I'm still a libra after all, with a cancer ascendant - even if people alway assume I'm a Leo, idk why), but I'm actually a very... heavy person. Maybe it's my virgo mercury? I suffer from a mild form of OCD from time to time, and my anxieties are 90% of the time related to my relationships and sexuality.
When I'm very stressed (for exams or whatever) my ACTUAL anxieties touch the highest level and then ALWAYS shift to my way of living my relationships. I start obsessively doubt about stuff, my mind tends to run very fast, and I doubt about everything, even if I know that what I think isn't the truth but it's just the form that my anxieties take to scare me (Spero di essermi spiegata bene, in ogni caso è una forma di OCD che si presenta massimo una volta all'anno, oramai grazie alla psicoterapia ho imparato a tenerla sotto controllo) . It's something that we addressed a year ago with him, and his calming approach and therapy with a psychologist helped me sooo much! Luckily I am now in a much better place and finally got diagnosed with OCD. I don't need any medicine because luckily I can manage it.
Can I ask you just one last question?
If you can see my natal in synastry (I'm the blue) is there some aspect that may explain why I tend to obsess about relationships the most? It's like I'm afraid of ruining EVERYTHING, and I've always been a perfectionist.
Oh, and I also have a perfect square between moon and venus.. Is this the reason why I tend to get along better with men instead of women? I only have a few close female friends, but generally I work better with men, even if sometimes I'm a little flirty.

Thank you Stoika! You are precious!
I promise I won't bother you anymore

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posted March 04, 2021 07:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sì, very nice 😍
Ci sono anche altre due italiane che vengono ogni tanto :-)

Scusa la mia ignoranza, ma cosa è OCD ?

I have Venus square Moon too! and yes, I also get along with men better than with women, my best friends are men actually... but I honestly never linked this to the Venus/Moon aspect! thanks for the tip :-)

Natally, you have a Grand Square formed by Sun/North Node opposite Saturn/South Node square to the ASC/DSC axis, with Jupiter being square to Saturn... this is a formation that may give you deep insecurities at inner level, there may be a lack of self-assertiveness casting a shadow on your Sun (your true inner Self and individuality) and your ASC (your way to express yourself in the outer world), and this is reflected in your relationship sphere (DSC/Jupiter square to Sun opp Saturn)... then, you have Saturn in Aries/10th house, which again can put a burden/insecurity to your individuality, this whole picture suggests you may be quite "harsh" to yourself, doubting your self-worth, inner fears to "fail", difficulty in recognizing your talents, virtues, and so on... this is an aspect suggesting that you may find your self-worth and assertiveness through your professional achievements and role, by letting go your "ego" issues (Aries) and by focusing on a well grounded and dedicated establishment (which may be career or whatever you're involved into)... Mercury in Virgo is perfectionist in the way your think, but also Saturn in 10th house opposite Sun, in a more self-blaming/critical way... Your Neptune is also in 7th house and quincunx to Venus, this may also add insecurity in romance and relationships... Pluto square Venus and opposite Moon is a very intense aspect, it shows you're extremely sensitive, very emotional and with lack of emotional control while you wish to have everything under control, and this may have to do with getting "obsessed", but it seems to me that it all is linked to the more general picture of your self-worth issue...

Composite Chiron in Leo can actually give a "childish" (in the good sense) vibe to your more intimate exchanges, and there are harmonious aspects, as for fun, laughing and so on, such as Jupiter sextile Uranus/Neptune in the 5th house... but Chiron in Leo may give a more serious tone when it comes to share plans for the future, or the way you experience the relationship on a daily basis (for instance, in case you live together)....

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posted March 05, 2021 04:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Karma30     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, thank you very much for the insight!
Yes, I knew about my grand cross but focused more on the 'emotional' planets (moon, venus, pluto).
OCD sarebbe il disturbo ossessivo compulsivo. Non pensavo di averlo perché non ho le classiche compulsioni, ma mi è stato spiegato che anche un eccesso di rassicurazioni (seppur mentali) può essere intesa come tale. Insomma, di base è una forma blanda, niente di preoccupante. Ho avuto un paio di episodi lunghi negli anni però,di cui uno appunto a marzo scorso.
By the way I'm getting always better in fighting my anxieties, and I hope my inner growth will always progress!
And yes, I tend to focus a lot on my career... I've always been a good student, but somehow i always feel like I'm lucky more than clever. Just like the impostor syndrome, it's my self esteem that somehow is blocked (even if it got better in the last few years!) and next year I will graduate in medicine.
But actually my first goal in life is to be a mother, more than to have a STARRY career. We'll see

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posted March 05, 2021 05:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I see! Well, the Pluto square Venus and opposite Moon is very likely related to the OCD, typically. so i understand why you mainly focused on that aspect. But I think it is the symptom, not the cause (at least, looking at the natal astrological picture). The cause seems to be found in yout Grand Square, i.e. your self-assertiveness issue and the need to establish your true "Self".
With the nodes attached to the Sun/Saturn opposition, involving your 10th house, it looks like a karmic path in which you need to find your individuality and assert yourself. With Saturn in that placement, this goes through discipline and unconsciously testing yourself, but this happens via constant "self-criticism" and, with the Pluto/Moon/Venus t-square in the picture, this dynamic triggers your anxiety or ends up in the OCD symptoms.....
The same fact that you are learning to control these symptoms and making progress is because you have North Node conjunct Sun, I believe, and also South Node/Saturn in 10th house, which is positive because with the South Node here, the issue will tend do dissolve (through Saturn efforts and discipline), while North Node conjunct your Sun promises to help your Sun (your individuality) to evolve :-)

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posted March 14, 2021 10:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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